Don’t Comply. Nullify!

dare to be differentThere are currently more than two dozen states considering bills to nullify various federal gun laws around the country.  Some address restrictions on semi-automatic weapons and large capacity magazines, and others address any and all federal rules, regulations, acts, or orders on firearms, ammunition and accessories.

Some of them seek nullification success by requiring all state and local agencies to refuse to enforce the specified federal acts.

For example, Montana House Bill 302 says the following:

A peace officer, state employee, or employee of any political subdivision is prohibited from enforcing, assisting in the enforcement of, or otherwise cooperating in the enforcement of a federal ban on semiautomatic weapons or large magazines and is also prohibited from participating in any federal enforcement action implementing a federal ban on semiautomatic weapons or large magazines.

Idaho House Bill 219 provides criminal charges for any state or local agents who help implement any new federal law, rules, regulation, or order that “requires any firearm, magazine or firearm accessory to be registered in any manner.”

Bills such as these have gotten strong support from the grassroots, much like the support being given to the many sheriffs around the country who have stated that they will refuse to enforce any of the newly proposed federal gun control measures.

The same thing is happening in many states to nullify NDAA indefinite detention powers.  In Michigan, for example, Senate Bill 94 requires non-compliance with the unconstitutional federal act.  It states, in part:

“No agency of this state, no political subdivision of this state, no employee of an agency of this state or a political subdivision of this state acting in his or her official capacity, and no member of the Michigan national guard on active state service shall aid an agency of the armed forces of the United States in any investigation, prosecution, or detention of any person pursuant to section 1021 of the national defense authorization act for fiscal year 2012”

But some folks, mostly self-professed libertarians, have been attacking such efforts.  These same people who now support “audit the fed” as a path to “ending the fed” claim such non-compliance bills as a path to nullification are worthless.  They call them weak, and many times they actively oppose them.  The general concern?  Well, since these bills don’t require state agents to have an armed standoff with federal agents, they supposedly have “no teeth” or are just symbolic.

NULLIFICATION

It seems to me that people are getting confused as to just what nullification is. So let’s clarify that first.

Nullification is any act or set of acts which has as its end result a particular law being rendered null, void, or just unenforceable within a specific area.

So, the question would go like this, “if the state isn’t blocking the federal government from carrying out their acts by arresting federal agents, aren’t we just saying that the state will sit by and watch the feds take our rights or kidnap us?  This isn’t nullification!”

First off, nullification is less about the legislation itself and more about the end result.  There are many ways to nullify a law.  The courts can strike a law down.  The executive branch could refuse to enforce it.  People in large numbers might refuse to comply.  A number of states could pass a law making its enforcement illegal.  Or a number a states could refuse to cooperate in any way with its enforcement.

NONCOMPLIANCE WORKS

Here at the Tenth Amendment Center, we’ve been touting marijuana legalization efforts as a nullification of unconstitutional federal laws since our inception.  And last fall, when voters in Colorado and Washington State legalized marijuana for the public at large, even the Department of Justice agreed.  They put out a press release opposing these acts of the people, and referred to them as an attempt to “nullify.”

Why?  Well, it’s because they know the same thing we do.  Persistent, relentless noncompliance on a large scale will almost always end in a complete nullification.  It may take time to get there, but get there we will.  The feds know it, and they don’t like it.   That’s why using state noncompliance laws to nullify an unconstitutional federal act can be so effective.

ENFORCEMENT

Federal enforcement of an unconstitutional law relies heavily on help and assistance from state or local agencies.  A quick review of recent actions by the ATF, the DEA and even the FDA makes this case quite clear.    Each of these agencies publish press releases on major actions, including convictions, busts, and the like.  And a vast majority of those have a statement like this, “Federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies worked in partnership to carry out the investigation and execute the warrant.”

Of the ten most recent field releases from the ATF, every single one of them reported on significant state and local support to carry out the investigation and the arrest.  The same goes for the DEA-Los Angeles division.  And even with the FDA, nearly half of the recently published actions included praise for the assistance or even leadership of state and local law enforcement agencies in carrying out the actions.

Fact: The federal government does not have the manpower to enforce all its laws.  State and local law enforcement often times carry the water during investigations and actual arrests.

If states pass laws banning both state and local participation – in any way – with the enforcement of a federal law – that federal law would never be enforced.

MOVING FORWARD

When trying to pass a state law that requires an arrest of violating federal agents, state legislators generally freak out.  They’re unaware of the rich history in using this method to successfully nullify.   And many of them have been taught incorrectly that only the Supreme Court can decide constitutionality.

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So, until more state and local politicians learn the truth, and more good people who already know it get in office, such nullification bills with strong interposition requirements will have a very hard time getting passed.

Now that doesn’t mean give up and go home.  But it certainly does mean – don’t be an idiot. Demanding that your state go from 0-100 mph in one fell swoop is really just bad strategy. Work to get something strong passed now, but don’t be surprised if you meet a brick wall.  And concurrently, work to get a good non-compliance bill passed too.  That way, you can actually get something done.

It’s better to move forward now with something that will have good effect today and could even get the job done on its own, than to go for only the Hail Mary and keep the status quo. That means you’ve done nothing.  As even the federal government already knows, if enough states follow your lead, you just might not have to push for the next step next year.

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227 Responses to Don’t Comply. Nullify!

  1. Linscottsdale March 14, 2013 at 4:28 pm #

    Well said, Michael. How can we get more involved?

    • Michael Boldin March 14, 2013 at 9:07 pm #

      @Linscottsdale thank you!
       
      http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/volunteer

      • Linscottsdale March 14, 2013 at 9:34 pm #

        @Michael Boldin I would like to get more involved. I have quite a bit of relevant experience, and I am firmly convinced that state-level legislation is the only way to reel boundless federal overreach in. Do you accept article submissions? Is there any other way to possibly help out?

  2. John Boyd March 14, 2013 at 4:42 pm #

    Educate yourselves!

  3. John Boyd March 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm #

    Read”Nullification” by Thomas E. Woods

  4. Mark Downing March 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm #

  5. Mark Downing March 14, 2013 at 4:46 pm #

    Try nullifying this upcoming crisis.

  6. Michael D Hudson March 14, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    How about the governors of the states get together and tell the fed to take a hike…..then We The People can fix this mess

  7. Tina Wright March 14, 2013 at 5:00 pm #

    No KIDDING !!??!!

  8. Mark Downing March 14, 2013 at 5:08 pm #

    There is a regional board of Governors that complete the US control grid. One of them for sure is Governor Brown of California. He is very deep into the Agenda 21 protocols.

  9. Bob Jones March 14, 2013 at 5:16 pm #

    This goverment must be killing you guys!

  10. Jacob Giese March 14, 2013 at 5:32 pm #

    Nope no nullify. None of the founders supported it. And it will only lead to anarchy

  11. Michael J. Kobulnicky March 14, 2013 at 5:45 pm #

    You are wrong Jacob. Jefferson supported it! The States gave the Fed their power and are taking it away when they are unconstituitional. Think about this: The Founders didn’t fight to have another King or Fed as we have it now! No way. They wanted a limited, small government. Nullification won’t lead to anarchy. It puts the strength back into the States!!!

  12. Valerie Hunter Summers March 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    If they didn’t support it they never would have voted to be put to the individual states to ratify. Two thirds of the states have to ratify a constitutional amendment. Or did you not learn that in your civics/law and government class. So most did want it and most of the states/votes wanted. This is a government for the people, by the people and of the people or did they not teach you that part of the constitution either? The constitution also had to be ratified by the states as well encase you skipped that class as well.

  13. Kenneth Linton March 14, 2013 at 5:47 pm #

    No the founders left us instructions to throw out tryanny thats what the second amendment was about , it was not about hunting it was about protecting our selves from tyranny

  14. Corey Spencer March 14, 2013 at 6:16 pm #

    Right on!

  15. Roger Silva March 14, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    Ok.

  16. Chris Lucas March 15, 2013 at 7:09 am #

    America take notice. This is the only way we are going totake our country back. The states are going to have to take their powers and rights back and not give them up for money from the government like a whore. The states hava allowed them to get into the education of our children, welfare, speed limits, etc. Don’t give the money to the government!!!Don’t take directions from the federal government for rights, and obligations that are solely the state’s responsibilitoes.

  17. MT Kite-Powell March 15, 2013 at 7:12 am #

    As I’ve said for some time. Abuse only continues as long as it is tolerated.

  18. Robert Lister March 15, 2013 at 8:57 am #

    Amen !!!!!

  19. KimberlyBoldt March 15, 2013 at 9:09 am #

    Don’t get we wrong, Michael, I personally agree with your article and “non-compliance”. I applaud your efforts. And as I presented to you recently, my husband rewrote SB63 Firearms Freedom Act in Michigan and submitted to our Senator Jansen. My husband and I both work together in educating the public and work with our state and local representatives to educate them regarding Constitutional issues. But there is a “reality” you are not addressing here, that the federal government, through DHS, is militarizing the police forces. West Michigan, where I live, will soon be home to military drone training and operations. http://fox17online.com/2013/03/15/drone-operation-center-headed-to-west-mi/#axzz2NciuldXz  Our county is slated to receive one of the 2700 armored tanks. Though half of the sheriffs of the 3100 counties in the U.S. are sticking to their “oaths” to the Constitution, the other half are happily accepting all of these gifts and toys from DHS, from our own tax money. Many of them are trigger-happy “sociopaths”. In my area around Grand Rapids, MI, I have personally witnessed the swarms of SWAT teams, body armor, automatic weapons, snipers, blockades, etc, in usually quiet neighborhoods. They descend like a storm on rumors of domestic violence. In the neighborhood behind ours, a man and woman were having a fight. A neighbor called the police on a “rumor”, that the husband may have a gun. Soon my whole area was turned into a war zone. It turned out later, there was no gun. The militarized police don’t stop to ask questions. They are taught to move into action and follow orders. They often push the Sheriff aside.
     
    Although, we believe, because of the Constitution, we don’t have to comply with unconstitutional laws, the federal government doesn’t. They will stop at nothing including admitting they can “drone your home” without due process. Take Waco and Ruby Ridge for examples, the federal government will “kill you”, and sleep very well at night.McMillin, R-Rochester Hills, introduced House Bill 4455, which would put specific guidelines in place for the deployment of unmanned drones by law enforcement, as well as strong reporting requirements and penalties for the unauthorized use of data. But this is still not reassuring to me.The reality is, how are the states going to stop a military invasion of the federal government? And do they have “will” to do so? In other words, the federal government views “non-compliance” as an act of sedition and terrorism and believe they are within the law to arrest or eliminate you. This is exactly why the 2nd Amendment was added to the Bill of Rights, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”

    • KimberlyBoldt March 15, 2013 at 9:31 am #

      Oh, and by the say my husband included your article above in an email to our Michigan State Legislature. :-)

      • Michael Boldin March 15, 2013 at 9:44 am #

        @KimberlyBoldt cool. thank you!
         
        I think the key here is a 2 bill strategy.  Simultaneously work a bill with interposition, while working one as noncompliance.
         
        In Texas, we see this on the right to keep and bear arms with HB553 and HB928.

    • Michael Boldin March 15, 2013 at 9:37 am #

      @KimberlyBoldt Thanks for the feedback.
       
      I didn’t address it because that’s a separate issue.  This article is about using the legislative process to direct all agencies within a state to refuse compliance with a federal law.    The fact remains – if the locals refuse – the feds can’t do what they want to do.
      That doesn’t mean the local police or state agencies are angels.  but dealing with them doing the right thing or the wrong thing is a separate issue.
       
      How to make that happen?  that’s the question.
       
      Bills rejecting federal handouts of military hardware, or grants for drones, and the like – these will be quite helpful in keeping the nasty beast at bay beyond the bills suggested here
       
      Now, if you’re just worried about a full-scale federal invasion, as you mention – there is no defense.  I don’t think anyone’s claiming that.
       
      but then again, I don’t live in that world – because I know what happens.  they lack manpower, but claim to bully – and when people refuse compliance, they back down.
       
      This has been the story line for decades.  It doesn’t mean they don’t hurt people.  They do.  But resistance ain’t easy.  And if the feds were going to invade, we would’ve seen tanks here in California 10 years ago.
       
      thanks again for the input.  hope this all was helpful!

      • KimberlyBoldt March 15, 2013 at 10:25 am #

        @Michael Boldin Thanks Michael. Yes, this is helpful. I shared this with my husband, who is also named, “Michael”, ;-) and he commented on your statement regarding “bills rejecting military handouts of military hardware, or grants for drones….” was a “brilliant idea’! He hadn’t considered that, and he is working on that right now. He also stated he understands why the federal government is arming themselves with bullets, tanks, and drones, is because the federal government still “fears us”, which is a good thing. As long as they still fear us, they will back down. But it’s the incidents where people are already dying, or being arrested or kidnapped by the government that still worries us. We still have much work to do. Thank you for your response and your help!

        • Michael Boldin March 15, 2013 at 12:42 pm #

          @KimberlyBoldt  worried here as well.  Glad that you and Michael are both working hard on moving us towards liberty.
           
          We have yet to fully explore legislation that would ban receipt of military hardware/infrastructure on a state or local level.  Those “grants” are unconstitutional, and it would be a powerful rejection of the police state.
           
          We’d be more than happy to collaborate on such…
           
           thank you for having this conversation with me!

  20. Lori King Eckert March 15, 2013 at 9:28 am #

    We are doing our part in Oklahoma have passed 2 nullifications Obamacare and Gun Rights :-)

  21. Steve Gatch March 15, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    Fedgov has morphed into a criminally-insane cartel that presumes jurisdiction over all American life and liberty.

  22. Shirley Pearson March 15, 2013 at 9:32 am #

    The feds are only feds because we tell them they can be feds. They’re like children. Take their toys away.

  23. Susie Kennison March 15, 2013 at 10:42 am #

    Amen. It’s our job to remind them of what they’re job is: protecting our natural rights and our borders. Everything else is unconstitutional.

  24. Charles Burkholtz March 15, 2013 at 11:31 am #

    That may be so, however, the have enough ammo to get the job done!!

  25. Jason Charles Reichenbach March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am #

    Not at the same time.

  26. Grant Nelson March 15, 2013 at 11:32 am #

    Well, the obvious answer is to employ more government workers!

  27. Arizona Luke March 15, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    refusal is not enough. #Interposition #ArticleV

  28. Dario Witer March 15, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    That’s one reason why Prohibition didn’t work in the 1920s & ’30s. The Prohibition documentary by Ken Burns on PBS mentioned that fact very well.

  29. Alla Lone March 15, 2013 at 11:33 am #

    There are more of us than there are of them and dictatorships have not proven to be long-term in the historical records.

  30. Judi Mason March 15, 2013 at 11:36 am #

    I certainly hope you’re right

  31. Steve Burgan March 15, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    They would need one person for every man, woman and child! But they are trying their little hearts out!

  32. Seth Semonick March 15, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    Thats why they will use foreign troops.

  33. Wanda Callahan March 15, 2013 at 11:38 am #

    And yet they hjust keep on making more — unneeded, and unconstitutional.

  34. Kraig Mottar March 15, 2013 at 11:39 am #

    The odds could turn against the government. And I won’t and you can’t make me, revolution is very powerful. So, what is the percentage of laws that they can enforce? Is focus put on murder and theft, and that may give us safety when we violate laws that have nothing to do with murder and theft?

  35. Carol Ball March 15, 2013 at 11:39 am #

    I LIKE IT.

  36. John Gress March 15, 2013 at 11:40 am #

    They don’t have to enforce all of them, just the one’s that cripple our freedom’s – our unalienable rights.

  37. Jim Wilson March 15, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    They can’t even enforce the laws they have made, want to make more.

  38. Spartacus Jones March 15, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    Not the brainpower, either.

  39. Terminator Cyberdyne Skynet is Real March 15, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    Drone power. :-/

  40. Will Gehring March 15, 2013 at 11:41 am #

    I agree! Notice all the tattletale snitch hotlines to call and report people for various insignifigant and minor infractions? Absolutely pathetic!

  41. Andrew J. Manuse March 15, 2013 at 11:44 am #

    Don’t give them any ideas.

  42. Nancy Brant Whiting March 15, 2013 at 11:45 am #

    Not yet, but they’re working on that.

  43. Kev DeNault March 15, 2013 at 11:46 am #

    More like their resources and priorities are mis-aligned… to say the least…

  44. Wesley H. Davis March 15, 2013 at 11:46 am #

    No should they . . . .

  45. Woody W Woodward March 15, 2013 at 11:48 am #

    They enforce only violations of the laws that will get their names in the paper, result in forfeited monies and property of value, and punish those who disagree with them.
    [W3]

  46. James Smiley March 15, 2013 at 11:52 am #

    JUDI MASON–there are an estimated 100-150 MILLION GUN OWNERS in the U.S.–MOST GUN OWNERS than ANY NATION OR MILITARY IN THE WORLD! The TOTAL U.S. MILITARY, INCLUDING RESERVES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT TOTALS APPROXIMATELY 4.1 MILLION SOLDIERS AND OFFICERS—”WE THE PEOLE” OUTNUMBER THEM BY 25 to 35 TIMES–FEDS can ONLY DISARM THOSE WILL ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE DISARMED!!

  47. Laurette Petit Murphy March 15, 2013 at 11:55 am #

    We are the worlds largest army and these numbers not include target shooters.
    Interesting slant on things AMERICA’S HUNTERS — Pretty Amazing!
    The world’s largest army…
    America’s hunters!I had never thought about this…
    A blogger added up the deer license sales in just a handful of states and arrived at a striking
    conclusion:
    There
    were over 600,000 hunters this season in the state of Wisconsin. Allow me to restate that number:
    Over the last
    several months, Wisconsin’s hunters became the eighth
    largest army in the world.
    More men under arms than in Iran.
    More than France and Germany combined.
    These men deployed to
    the woods of a single American state, Wisconsin, to hunt with
    firearms, and no one was killed.
    That number pales in comparison to the
    750,000 who hunted the woods of
    Pennsylvania and Michigan’s
    700,000 hunters, all of whom
    have now returned home safely. Toss in a quarter million hunters
    in West Virginia and it literally establishes the fact
    that the hunters of those four
    states alone would comprise the
    largest army in the world. And then add in the total number
    of hunters in the other
    46 states. It’s millions more.
    The point?
    America will forever be safe from foreign invasion
    with that kind of home-grown
    firepower.
    Hunting…. it’s not just
    a way to fill the freezer.. It’s a matter of national security.
    ***************************************
    That’s why all enemies, foreign and domestic, want to see us
    disarmed.
    Food for thought, when next we
    consider gun control. Have A Great Day!
    ————————————-
    Overall it’s true, so if we disregard some assumptions that hunters
    don’t possess the same skills as soldiers, the question would still remain… what army of
    2 million would want to face 30, 40, 50 million armed citizens.
    (IF YOU AGREE, AS I DO, PASS IT ON, I FEEL GOOD THAT I HAVE AN ARMY OF MILLIONS WHO WOULD PROTECT OUR LAND AND I SURE DON’T WANT THE GOVERNMENT TAKING CONTROL OF THE POSSESSION OF FIREARMS)
    For the sake of our freedom, don’t ever allow gun control or confiscation of guns.

  48. Laurette Petit Murphy March 15, 2013 at 11:56 am #

    That count was1998…, the count is now up to 150 million armed citizens.. They have been rearming and reloading for the last 4 years.

  49. Dave Buterbaugh March 15, 2013 at 11:57 am #

    So basicly they enforce the illegal laws and ignore all the others…I get it.

  50. Mimoandk Hernandez March 15, 2013 at 11:59 am #

    Which is why all the agencies have loaded up on guns and ammo and why he’s let so many illegals out of detention centers, and also why he is going full throttle with gay’s in the military.

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