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	<title>Comments on: Firearms Freedom Act Introduced in Minnesota</title>
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		<title>By: Gary Marbut: Gun Rights and the Commerce Clause&#160;&#124;&#160;Tenth Amendment Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Marbut: Gun Rights and the Commerce Clause&#160;&#124;&#160;Tenth Amendment Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Minnesota Firearms Freedom Act [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Your Legislature at Work: Toothless Legislation, Jail Bait, Beavers&#8230; &#171; KELOLAND.com &#124; Issues Blogs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Freedom Act&#8221; is a coordinated national effort. SB 89 copies language used in a &#8220;Firearms Freedom Act&#8221; proposed in Minnesota last year. Montana led the way, passing the first version of said law [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pistol Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pistol Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 09:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this passes DPMS is gonna get REALLY popular!</description>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLARENCE LEE CLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;ve given many a peace of my mind lately, here and there. Don&#039;t know how much I have left. Know I&#039;m getten a bit senile also. hope I Haint hurt no feelins. I may not be here after friday. Dispute with the Phone Co. They increased my payment by about 325% and won&#039;t tell me why. Won&#039;t pay till they do. I do not have a phone. Can&#039;t afford anything but dialup. don&#039;t need long distance or extended area. just the ability to have my modum dial one number in the city to get on line. Am searching for anothe phone Co. Cell phone on my stepdaughters account. 15 a month aint bad. No spam either. Don&#039;t know whose calling so i don&#039;t answer whole family on att except my brothers in Ca. call them after 7. I can get on the cable for just a little more than my present provider but i like where i am at. Outdoors unlimited is slow but the best. good friends there. So if i do not get back with yall soon, fight the good fight. tell them like it is. I am not single issue my fripes are many. Love all of you, pro&#039;s and con&#039;s. bow wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;ve given many a peace of my mind lately, here and there. Don&#8217;t know how much I have left. Know I&#8217;m getten a bit senile also. hope I Haint hurt no feelins. I may not be here after friday. Dispute with the Phone Co. They increased my payment by about 325% and won&#8217;t tell me why. Won&#8217;t pay till they do. I do not have a phone. Can&#8217;t afford anything but dialup. don&#8217;t need long distance or extended area. just the ability to have my modum dial one number in the city to get on line. Am searching for anothe phone Co. Cell phone on my stepdaughters account. 15 a month aint bad. No spam either. Don&#8217;t know whose calling so i don&#8217;t answer whole family on att except my brothers in Ca. call them after 7. I can get on the cable for just a little more than my present provider but i like where i am at. Outdoors unlimited is slow but the best. good friends there. So if i do not get back with yall soon, fight the good fight. tell them like it is. I am not single issue my fripes are many. Love all of you, pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s. bow wow.</p>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLARENCE LEE CLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thought given you guys my e-mail. guess they did not want me to.</description>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/05/15/firearms-freedom-act-introduced-in-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-256220</link>
		<dc:creator>CLARENCE LEE CLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of us who carry a gun have done something stupid at some point. We don&#039;t often talk about these things in the fear that they might reflect on us negatively, but I think that sometimes the best way to learn from a mistake is to learn from somebody else&#039;s. It hurts a lot less that way too.

This column is about some of the dumb mistakes we&#039;ve made. 

Some mistakes are more dangerous than others. Violations of the four rules are brutal and unforgiving. On the wall of my shop is a picture of one man who decided to take his Sigma apart (which necessitates dry-firing before removing the slide) while it was pointed at his hand. A friend of mine has zero motion in his wrist and limited use of one hand because of a similar mistake.

Jeff Cooper didn&#039;t set down a list of &quot;Friendly Firearms Suggestions.&quot; They&#039;re rules, and as long as you follow them you aren&#039;t going to shoot yourself or somebody else on accident. I tell my students that they need to go over these rules until they become so ingrained that when they pick up a cordless drill or squirt gun their fingers are off the trigger and they&#039;re pointed in a safe direction.

We had an incident several years ago that was a combination of stupidity and violating the four rules. A guy had just got his permit. He was really excited to show his buddy his gun. Cool, whatever, but there is a time and a place to show your friend your gun. Church isn&#039;t it. This individual managed to have a negligent discharge in church. This lead directly to one of Utah&#039;s few anti-gun laws, which allows churches to ban firearms from their property.

As a permit holder, one of your goals should be to never have a law named after you...

Screw ups are not limited to just dangerous handling, sometimes we just get complacent or forgetful instead. There was a case a few years ago where an individual got up to walk his dog. He stuck his .38 Special in the pocket of his bathrobe, went outside, and let his dog do its business. The .38 fell out of his pocket, he didn&#039;t realize it, and went back inside and went to sleep. The gun was found by local school children the next morning. Luckily in this case, the kids were smart and did exactly what Eddie Eagle suggests and left it alone and got an adult.

If we&#039;re taking a gun outside, we really owe it ourselves to make sure we don&#039;t misplace them. I follow the same general rule with my kids. My wife gets upset when I come home with fewer children than I left with.

Forgetfulness can be expensive. A friend of mine called me at the shop one morning and asked for the name of a good firearms attorney. I asked what the problem was. Apparently my friend had made an innocent mistake, with pretty terrible repercussions. 

To set the stage, my friend is a smart guy, with three Master&#039;s degrees, and has started several successful businesses. This is not a dumb man by any means. He carries his gun in a laptop bag. His habit is to come home from work, place the gun in the safe, and then take it back out in the morning.

So one night my friend comes home from a long day at work. He&#039;s tired. He forgets to take the gun out of the bag and goes to sleep. The next morning he has to get up extra early to catch a flight. Mentally, the gun is sitting in the safe, so he doesn&#039;t even think about it as he rushes to the airport. You can guess what happened next.

He was arrested for trying to bring a loaded gun onto the plane. It took several months out of his life and a whole bunch of money to fight the charges, and it was only through the sheer obviousness that he wasn&#039;t trying out for Al Qaeda that kept him out of jail.

Complacency sucks. Anytime we assume, it inevitably comes back to kick us in the teeth. 

Now I&#039;m not one of those instructors that puts on airs about how awesomely tactical I am. I&#039;m capable of just as much idiocy as the next guy. My personal stupid permit-holder trick happened the night that Halo 3 was released. Please allow me to share so you too can learn from my dumbness.

Ironically enough, I had just finished teaching a CCW class to approximately 35 people. I came home tired and distracted. Talking for five hours straight takes it right out of you. I put my carry guns in my bedside safe and put on a pair of sweat pants. I was done for the night.

Then my lovely wife surprised me. She had purchased a game for me, and I am a total gaming nerd. What a great way to unwind. I sit down to play, only to discover that I can&#039;t find batteries for my controller anywhere in my house. (Thanks kids) There is a grocery store a couple of blocks away, so I decided it would be quicker to just run over and grab some batteries there.

But I&#039;m wearing sweats. I usually carry with a belt holster. I&#039;m in a hurry, so I borrowed my wife&#039;s fanny pack holster that she uses for working out. She has a Bulgarian Makarov as her workout gun in there. I patted the pack, felt the gun, and saw that it was zipped up. Not my normal rig, but it would work for running a quick errand. Right?

I made it twenty feet into the store, spotted an employee, asked where the batteries were, took two more steps, and heard a really loud CLUNK. I look down, and laying there on the floor was a Bulgarian Makarov. I had checked and seen that the top zipper was zipped, but my wife reaches in through the side. 

I hurried and scooped up the gun and shoved it back in the pack. The employee looked over at me, raised an eyebrow and asked, &quot;What was that?&quot; Since I&#039;m really clever under pressure, I responded. &quot;I dropped my gun.&quot; He responded with, &quot;Oh, it happens... Batteries are over here.&quot; which made me really glad I live in Utah. That could have gone a whole lot worse.

That was the first and only time I had ever dropped a gun. Since I&#039;m supposed to be the guy that teaches this stuff for a living, it was extra painful. The lesson from my monumentally stupid permit-holder trick was to not be complacent. I was too lazy to change clothes so I could use my own gear, and too distracted to properly check the borrowed rig. 

Halo 3 still rocked though. thot youd like hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of us who carry a gun have done something stupid at some point. We don&#8217;t often talk about these things in the fear that they might reflect on us negatively, but I think that sometimes the best way to learn from a mistake is to learn from somebody else&#8217;s. It hurts a lot less that way too.</p>
<p>This column is about some of the dumb mistakes we&#8217;ve made. </p>
<p>Some mistakes are more dangerous than others. Violations of the four rules are brutal and unforgiving. On the wall of my shop is a picture of one man who decided to take his Sigma apart (which necessitates dry-firing before removing the slide) while it was pointed at his hand. A friend of mine has zero motion in his wrist and limited use of one hand because of a similar mistake.</p>
<p>Jeff Cooper didn&#8217;t set down a list of &#8220;Friendly Firearms Suggestions.&#8221; They&#8217;re rules, and as long as you follow them you aren&#8217;t going to shoot yourself or somebody else on accident. I tell my students that they need to go over these rules until they become so ingrained that when they pick up a cordless drill or squirt gun their fingers are off the trigger and they&#8217;re pointed in a safe direction.</p>
<p>We had an incident several years ago that was a combination of stupidity and violating the four rules. A guy had just got his permit. He was really excited to show his buddy his gun. Cool, whatever, but there is a time and a place to show your friend your gun. Church isn&#8217;t it. This individual managed to have a negligent discharge in church. This lead directly to one of Utah&#8217;s few anti-gun laws, which allows churches to ban firearms from their property.</p>
<p>As a permit holder, one of your goals should be to never have a law named after you&#8230;</p>
<p>Screw ups are not limited to just dangerous handling, sometimes we just get complacent or forgetful instead. There was a case a few years ago where an individual got up to walk his dog. He stuck his .38 Special in the pocket of his bathrobe, went outside, and let his dog do its business. The .38 fell out of his pocket, he didn&#8217;t realize it, and went back inside and went to sleep. The gun was found by local school children the next morning. Luckily in this case, the kids were smart and did exactly what Eddie Eagle suggests and left it alone and got an adult.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re taking a gun outside, we really owe it ourselves to make sure we don&#8217;t misplace them. I follow the same general rule with my kids. My wife gets upset when I come home with fewer children than I left with.</p>
<p>Forgetfulness can be expensive. A friend of mine called me at the shop one morning and asked for the name of a good firearms attorney. I asked what the problem was. Apparently my friend had made an innocent mistake, with pretty terrible repercussions. </p>
<p>To set the stage, my friend is a smart guy, with three Master&#8217;s degrees, and has started several successful businesses. This is not a dumb man by any means. He carries his gun in a laptop bag. His habit is to come home from work, place the gun in the safe, and then take it back out in the morning.</p>
<p>So one night my friend comes home from a long day at work. He&#8217;s tired. He forgets to take the gun out of the bag and goes to sleep. The next morning he has to get up extra early to catch a flight. Mentally, the gun is sitting in the safe, so he doesn&#8217;t even think about it as he rushes to the airport. You can guess what happened next.</p>
<p>He was arrested for trying to bring a loaded gun onto the plane. It took several months out of his life and a whole bunch of money to fight the charges, and it was only through the sheer obviousness that he wasn&#8217;t trying out for Al Qaeda that kept him out of jail.</p>
<p>Complacency sucks. Anytime we assume, it inevitably comes back to kick us in the teeth. </p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not one of those instructors that puts on airs about how awesomely tactical I am. I&#8217;m capable of just as much idiocy as the next guy. My personal stupid permit-holder trick happened the night that Halo 3 was released. Please allow me to share so you too can learn from my dumbness.</p>
<p>Ironically enough, I had just finished teaching a CCW class to approximately 35 people. I came home tired and distracted. Talking for five hours straight takes it right out of you. I put my carry guns in my bedside safe and put on a pair of sweat pants. I was done for the night.</p>
<p>Then my lovely wife surprised me. She had purchased a game for me, and I am a total gaming nerd. What a great way to unwind. I sit down to play, only to discover that I can&#8217;t find batteries for my controller anywhere in my house. (Thanks kids) There is a grocery store a couple of blocks away, so I decided it would be quicker to just run over and grab some batteries there.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m wearing sweats. I usually carry with a belt holster. I&#8217;m in a hurry, so I borrowed my wife&#8217;s fanny pack holster that she uses for working out. She has a Bulgarian Makarov as her workout gun in there. I patted the pack, felt the gun, and saw that it was zipped up. Not my normal rig, but it would work for running a quick errand. Right?</p>
<p>I made it twenty feet into the store, spotted an employee, asked where the batteries were, took two more steps, and heard a really loud CLUNK. I look down, and laying there on the floor was a Bulgarian Makarov. I had checked and seen that the top zipper was zipped, but my wife reaches in through the side. </p>
<p>I hurried and scooped up the gun and shoved it back in the pack. The employee looked over at me, raised an eyebrow and asked, &#8220;What was that?&#8221; Since I&#8217;m really clever under pressure, I responded. &#8220;I dropped my gun.&#8221; He responded with, &#8220;Oh, it happens&#8230; Batteries are over here.&#8221; which made me really glad I live in Utah. That could have gone a whole lot worse.</p>
<p>That was the first and only time I had ever dropped a gun. Since I&#8217;m supposed to be the guy that teaches this stuff for a living, it was extra painful. The lesson from my monumentally stupid permit-holder trick was to not be complacent. I was too lazy to change clothes so I could use my own gear, and too distracted to properly check the borrowed rig. </p>
<p>Halo 3 still rocked though. thot youd like hit.</p>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLARENCE LEE CLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hairs nuther
After The Shooting
&quot;...there are some things that you need to remember...&quot;
by Larry Correia
As self-defense oriented people, we tend to think about the actual encounter a lot, and seldom, if ever, about what we should do in the aftermath. If you are unlucky enough to be involved in a violent encounter, there are some things that you need to remember to maximize your chances of a successful outcome. 

Call for help immediately. Even if you produced the gun and your assailant retreated with no shots fired, call the police. If there is somebody out there worth pulling a gun on, then the cops need to know about it. They may have just gone around the corner to pick an easier victim. 

As soon as it is safe for you to do so, call 911. Always ask for an ambulance. If somebody has been shot, whether injured or even if you are a hundred percent sure that they are dead, I still want you to ask for medical attention. First off, killing people sucks, so if I&#039;ve got an injured assailant, I don&#039;t want him to die, I just wanted to make him leave me alone. Second, if you don&#039;t ask for medical attention, then there is a good chance that fact will be brought up during any potential trial. Basically it is just another tool of a prosecutor trying to portray the permit holder as a blood-thirsty vigilante. 

If humanly possible, have your weapon secured before the police arrive, at least in your holster, but definitely not in your hand. The responding officers do not know you, and the information they got from dispatch was probably sketchy at best. The last thing you want to do is survive a violent encounter only to get shot by the cops because they think you&#039;re the bad guy. 

If you are ever in a situation where you still have the gun in your hands, and the police arrive, they are going to order you to drop the gun. Comply with their instructions because otherwise they may think you are the threat and very well may shoot you. Do not start talking or trying to explain what is going on. Don&#039;t be offended because they are treating you like the bad guy. This is not the time to get indignant. This is the time to keep from getting shot. 

If you have medical training, and you have just shot and injured an attacker, you may be tempted to administer first aid. Keep in mind, however, that a minute ago this person was trying to hurt you bad enough that they were worth shooting. That threat may still be a threat. Your primary advantage is the fact that you have a firearm. If you then put yourself close enough to administer treatment, you are giving up that advantage. He may not be as incapacitated as you thought, and when he wakes up and sees the person who just shot him within arm&#039;s length, you have a real good chance of getting your head twisted off your shoulders. He may have a folding knife that you won&#039;t know about until it cuts your kidney in half. 

Keep in mind that when the police shoot somebody, the paramedics do not rush in and give immediate aid. The police always secure the individual before the paramedics move in. That is for everyone&#039;s safety. If you have been through first responder training, keep in mind one of the very first examples that was given to your class. If you come across a car accident, and the car is on fire, you do not have to climb into the burning car to try and help, because now you are just one more injured person to treat. You never want to endanger yourself to administer aid.

Never tamper with the crime scene. You may have heard the old myth, usually given by an imbecile that does not understand self-defense law, &quot;if you shoot the guy on the porch, drag him in the living room.&quot; Bad idea. Do not ever do that. Once you shoot someone, wherever it happened is now a crime scene. If you tamper with the evidence, the authorities will figure it out, and this will now create doubt in the minds of the reasonable people looking at your case. If you felt the need to tamper with the scene, they will believe that you are trying to hide something. The only thing you may do is to make the area physically safe for yourself, but other than that, leave it alone.

On that same note, do not flee the scene. Your personal safety comes first, so if you need to get away to keep from being injured, that is one thing, but make sure that you then call the police as quickly as possible. If you flee the scene of a shooting, that once again raises the specter of guilt with the authorities, and that will color their investigation accordingly. 

The responding officers are going to question you. I want you to give a brief statement, and then shut up, accent on brief, with little or no details. As in, &quot;Officer, he attacked me, I was in fear for my life, so I shot him.&quot; That is it. Do not start to babble to the police. Do not try to explain everything at the time. They will continue to question you. At that point you will politely tell them that you are not going to answer any more questions until you have your attorney present. 

When you shoot somebody, unless you have ice water in your veins, you will be going through various stress reactions. Some of you may be in shock, others will be distraught that they just took a life, others may be enraged that some bad guy just threatened their children, but whatever your reaction, you will not be in a calm state of mind. It is a medical fact that adrenalin affects our higher brain functions. You will tend to forget details, some of which may be very important, or even worse, your brain will fill in the forgotten blanks with facts that will later be shown to be incorrect. 

Wait until you have an attorney present before you make your complete statement. This gives you the time to compose yourself and calm down. Also, the Bill of Rights gives us the right to legal counsel. Take advantage of it. A good attorney will keep you from saying anything stupid that will be used against you in court later. 

Now some of you may not like this. You may have the mistaken belief that it is the bad guys that need the defense attorneys, not us good guys. Unfortunately that is not how it works in real life. We work in an adversarial system, and anything you say during a statement, can and will be used against you in a court of law. 

These are just a few basic tips to keep in mind. Your primary consideration in a violent encounter is to first survive the attack, but doing these things may help you survive the aftermath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hairs nuther<br />
After The Shooting<br />
&#8220;&#8230;there are some things that you need to remember&#8230;&#8221;<br />
by Larry Correia<br />
As self-defense oriented people, we tend to think about the actual encounter a lot, and seldom, if ever, about what we should do in the aftermath. If you are unlucky enough to be involved in a violent encounter, there are some things that you need to remember to maximize your chances of a successful outcome. </p>
<p>Call for help immediately. Even if you produced the gun and your assailant retreated with no shots fired, call the police. If there is somebody out there worth pulling a gun on, then the cops need to know about it. They may have just gone around the corner to pick an easier victim. </p>
<p>As soon as it is safe for you to do so, call 911. Always ask for an ambulance. If somebody has been shot, whether injured or even if you are a hundred percent sure that they are dead, I still want you to ask for medical attention. First off, killing people sucks, so if I&#8217;ve got an injured assailant, I don&#8217;t want him to die, I just wanted to make him leave me alone. Second, if you don&#8217;t ask for medical attention, then there is a good chance that fact will be brought up during any potential trial. Basically it is just another tool of a prosecutor trying to portray the permit holder as a blood-thirsty vigilante. </p>
<p>If humanly possible, have your weapon secured before the police arrive, at least in your holster, but definitely not in your hand. The responding officers do not know you, and the information they got from dispatch was probably sketchy at best. The last thing you want to do is survive a violent encounter only to get shot by the cops because they think you&#8217;re the bad guy. </p>
<p>If you are ever in a situation where you still have the gun in your hands, and the police arrive, they are going to order you to drop the gun. Comply with their instructions because otherwise they may think you are the threat and very well may shoot you. Do not start talking or trying to explain what is going on. Don&#8217;t be offended because they are treating you like the bad guy. This is not the time to get indignant. This is the time to keep from getting shot. </p>
<p>If you have medical training, and you have just shot and injured an attacker, you may be tempted to administer first aid. Keep in mind, however, that a minute ago this person was trying to hurt you bad enough that they were worth shooting. That threat may still be a threat. Your primary advantage is the fact that you have a firearm. If you then put yourself close enough to administer treatment, you are giving up that advantage. He may not be as incapacitated as you thought, and when he wakes up and sees the person who just shot him within arm&#8217;s length, you have a real good chance of getting your head twisted off your shoulders. He may have a folding knife that you won&#8217;t know about until it cuts your kidney in half. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that when the police shoot somebody, the paramedics do not rush in and give immediate aid. The police always secure the individual before the paramedics move in. That is for everyone&#8217;s safety. If you have been through first responder training, keep in mind one of the very first examples that was given to your class. If you come across a car accident, and the car is on fire, you do not have to climb into the burning car to try and help, because now you are just one more injured person to treat. You never want to endanger yourself to administer aid.</p>
<p>Never tamper with the crime scene. You may have heard the old myth, usually given by an imbecile that does not understand self-defense law, &#8220;if you shoot the guy on the porch, drag him in the living room.&#8221; Bad idea. Do not ever do that. Once you shoot someone, wherever it happened is now a crime scene. If you tamper with the evidence, the authorities will figure it out, and this will now create doubt in the minds of the reasonable people looking at your case. If you felt the need to tamper with the scene, they will believe that you are trying to hide something. The only thing you may do is to make the area physically safe for yourself, but other than that, leave it alone.</p>
<p>On that same note, do not flee the scene. Your personal safety comes first, so if you need to get away to keep from being injured, that is one thing, but make sure that you then call the police as quickly as possible. If you flee the scene of a shooting, that once again raises the specter of guilt with the authorities, and that will color their investigation accordingly. </p>
<p>The responding officers are going to question you. I want you to give a brief statement, and then shut up, accent on brief, with little or no details. As in, &#8220;Officer, he attacked me, I was in fear for my life, so I shot him.&#8221; That is it. Do not start to babble to the police. Do not try to explain everything at the time. They will continue to question you. At that point you will politely tell them that you are not going to answer any more questions until you have your attorney present. </p>
<p>When you shoot somebody, unless you have ice water in your veins, you will be going through various stress reactions. Some of you may be in shock, others will be distraught that they just took a life, others may be enraged that some bad guy just threatened their children, but whatever your reaction, you will not be in a calm state of mind. It is a medical fact that adrenalin affects our higher brain functions. You will tend to forget details, some of which may be very important, or even worse, your brain will fill in the forgotten blanks with facts that will later be shown to be incorrect. </p>
<p>Wait until you have an attorney present before you make your complete statement. This gives you the time to compose yourself and calm down. Also, the Bill of Rights gives us the right to legal counsel. Take advantage of it. A good attorney will keep you from saying anything stupid that will be used against you in court later. </p>
<p>Now some of you may not like this. You may have the mistaken belief that it is the bad guys that need the defense attorneys, not us good guys. Unfortunately that is not how it works in real life. We work in an adversarial system, and anything you say during a statement, can and will be used against you in a court of law. </p>
<p>These are just a few basic tips to keep in mind. Your primary consideration in a violent encounter is to first survive the attack, but doing these things may help you survive the aftermath.</p>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 00:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Carole. welcome to the dog pack. tho i am old and feeble and a bit short in the tooth I can still growl. you sound shy. 

tanks trouble i like you too. 

Hey BK i kinda taut yo vas. now you know it too. i like you also. oh, i will be right back with some more from the sheep dog guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Carole. welcome to the dog pack. tho i am old and feeble and a bit short in the tooth I can still growl. you sound shy. </p>
<p>tanks trouble i like you too. </p>
<p>Hey BK i kinda taut yo vas. now you know it too. i like you also. oh, i will be right back with some more from the sheep dog guy.</p>
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		<title>By: CLARENCE LEE CLINE</title>
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		<dc:creator>CLARENCE LEE CLINE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please fellas. I am 74 years old. i once had an iq near genius. however my mental powers are and have been in decline for a while. I have suffered much which colors much of what i say. My health is not good either. things get foggy occasionally. sometimes i have a problem just knowing exactly where i am at the moment. However i love my country. I feel a great amount of guilt because it took me so long to wake up as to what was happening. then it took the internet to truly educate me somewhat. I am not a scoller and never have been. nor will i ever be. I dropped out of college under the GI bill after one semester. however i do consider myself well read on the subjects that have cemented my beliefs and attitudes in life. i have read and studied in the bible and writings about the bible. According to what i and my beloved oldest grandson have learned, i am indeed a christian although i seldom go to church. I believe and hold as truth John 3:16 which explains explicitly what must happen to be a child of God. after John 3:16 it goes on to say &quot;it is a gift of God lest any man should boast.&quot; In other words, Salvation (Going to heaven opposed to dying forever in hell) is a gift. free of anything but acceptance and BELIEF in Jesus Christ and that he  died to absolve us of our sins. it is a gift tells me that this is ALL that is necessary. all else then comes more or less naturally. however we are also told elsewhere that we WILL SIN, WE CANNOT HELP BUT SIN BECAUSE WE HAVE INHERITED THE SINS OF ADAM AND EVE. This cannot and will not change. So we must pray to God and admit those sins. we must study to know exactly what those sins are and etc; . sorry to preach. however this is the basic that i live by. I have read also much fiction. Pearl Buck is one of my favorites. She is very good at protraying human nature as it is without opinion nor rancor. The good earth, the landsman, sons and so forth show the rise and decline of a man and his family. come my beloved touches on bigotry and intolerance. then there is science fiction. Hienlen comes to mind here. the man is definately not a christian. however he also is very good at prtraying human nature. The Number Of the Beast comes to mind. then there are others like arthur clark. i read childhoods end several times before i got his point and understood what he was saying. the westerns dateing back to the fourties and fifties along with the lone ranger, and zane gray shaped my character long before i became a christian or knew it existed. then there was dickens and the authors that wrote the black stallion and such. how about robinson cruso, les miserables, tom sawyer and all those books. I think i have read them all. the horrer writers, the mysterys, hardy boys, readers digest condensed books (i have most of them from the 60&#039;s to the present on my shelves. i subscribed to readers digest for many years and read them from cover to cover. National Geographic was a read every month for many years. i considered the naked or near nakid blacks from africa a curiosity along with all the rest of nature. Field and stream, outdoor life and such have been a lifetime experience. NRA magazenes for much of my adult life. many of the historical novels are a good read. My encyclopedia when i ran out of anything else opened at random and read. I never had algebra in school. when i was in my late twenties i taught it to myself useing a library book or two. Sience adventure is a lot of fun also. I learned much about the religions and different Christian divisions from the encyclopedias filled in by writings by  their people. memory of the teachings in our public schools in subjects like american history and such appalls me. reading the mass media stuff and then the truth appalls me. It is no wonder to me that my beloved country seems to be going to hell in a handbasket because of the lies, misinformation and refusal to teach the whole truth that has been applied to our children in the academic world. things like evolution have been taught in our schools as fact or at best theory while there was little enough proof to make it even an idea. Do not get me wrong, i believe in evolution. but not the crap taught in school even when i was there in 1945 through 1954. what with all the hoxes like the pildown man and Lucy and others. I do not believe in an omeba or something like it changing to a fish then a frog and a monkey then to a man. true scientists in all forms and colors say this is not possible. however true historical facts prove the Bible is historical fact. everything in science proves that what is called evolution in our schools is pure bs.
true science is takeing something and descovering facts about it without presumption and letting the truth fall where it may. what is now known about genetics, and all of the other sciences suct as space and laws of nature preclude any possibility of darwins apothocie being fact. even the big bang theory points to a devine origin of everything. science has proven that the galaxy and everything in it could not have just spontainiously happened. there are certain rules that are followed by everything that exists from atoms to life. but again i degress. 
     i love my country. i love what it stands for. i love the constitution of the united states. it is the best and most beautiful thing that man has ever created because it does the ultimate,  short of what God has given us, of all documents. when it was written and accepted, for the first time since mankind fell, was destroyed in a flood and governments came into being, men were free. useing that freedom men once again enslaved men. men useing that same freedom are attempting to destroy the very freedoms they enjoy so that men will not have those freedoms ever again. to me this makes no sense whatsoever. i am ashamed that i too have sinned. i have sinned the sin of unattention and of not seeing that men are being men again. i have sinned because i believed in the honor and integrety of man. I trusted instead of watching. because of that something wonderful may very well die and those i love so much along with it. i would rather be in hell than to see this happen. if it cannot be fixed i will die fighting to get it so. any person that is helpig deliberately to destroy what is mine will die slowly and horribly if i am allowed to have my way. I have spoken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please fellas. I am 74 years old. i once had an iq near genius. however my mental powers are and have been in decline for a while. I have suffered much which colors much of what i say. My health is not good either. things get foggy occasionally. sometimes i have a problem just knowing exactly where i am at the moment. However i love my country. I feel a great amount of guilt because it took me so long to wake up as to what was happening. then it took the internet to truly educate me somewhat. I am not a scoller and never have been. nor will i ever be. I dropped out of college under the GI bill after one semester. however i do consider myself well read on the subjects that have cemented my beliefs and attitudes in life. i have read and studied in the bible and writings about the bible. According to what i and my beloved oldest grandson have learned, i am indeed a christian although i seldom go to church. I believe and hold as truth John 3:16 which explains explicitly what must happen to be a child of God. after John 3:16 it goes on to say &#8220;it is a gift of God lest any man should boast.&#8221; In other words, Salvation (Going to heaven opposed to dying forever in hell) is a gift. free of anything but acceptance and BELIEF in Jesus Christ and that he  died to absolve us of our sins. it is a gift tells me that this is ALL that is necessary. all else then comes more or less naturally. however we are also told elsewhere that we WILL SIN, WE CANNOT HELP BUT SIN BECAUSE WE HAVE INHERITED THE SINS OF ADAM AND EVE. This cannot and will not change. So we must pray to God and admit those sins. we must study to know exactly what those sins are and etc; . sorry to preach. however this is the basic that i live by. I have read also much fiction. Pearl Buck is one of my favorites. She is very good at protraying human nature as it is without opinion nor rancor. The good earth, the landsman, sons and so forth show the rise and decline of a man and his family. come my beloved touches on bigotry and intolerance. then there is science fiction. Hienlen comes to mind here. the man is definately not a christian. however he also is very good at prtraying human nature. The Number Of the Beast comes to mind. then there are others like arthur clark. i read childhoods end several times before i got his point and understood what he was saying. the westerns dateing back to the fourties and fifties along with the lone ranger, and zane gray shaped my character long before i became a christian or knew it existed. then there was dickens and the authors that wrote the black stallion and such. how about robinson cruso, les miserables, tom sawyer and all those books. I think i have read them all. the horrer writers, the mysterys, hardy boys, readers digest condensed books (i have most of them from the 60&#8242;s to the present on my shelves. i subscribed to readers digest for many years and read them from cover to cover. National Geographic was a read every month for many years. i considered the naked or near nakid blacks from africa a curiosity along with all the rest of nature. Field and stream, outdoor life and such have been a lifetime experience. NRA magazenes for much of my adult life. many of the historical novels are a good read. My encyclopedia when i ran out of anything else opened at random and read. I never had algebra in school. when i was in my late twenties i taught it to myself useing a library book or two. Sience adventure is a lot of fun also. I learned much about the religions and different Christian divisions from the encyclopedias filled in by writings by  their people. memory of the teachings in our public schools in subjects like american history and such appalls me. reading the mass media stuff and then the truth appalls me. It is no wonder to me that my beloved country seems to be going to hell in a handbasket because of the lies, misinformation and refusal to teach the whole truth that has been applied to our children in the academic world. things like evolution have been taught in our schools as fact or at best theory while there was little enough proof to make it even an idea. Do not get me wrong, i believe in evolution. but not the crap taught in school even when i was there in 1945 through 1954. what with all the hoxes like the pildown man and Lucy and others. I do not believe in an omeba or something like it changing to a fish then a frog and a monkey then to a man. true scientists in all forms and colors say this is not possible. however true historical facts prove the Bible is historical fact. everything in science proves that what is called evolution in our schools is pure bs.<br />
true science is takeing something and descovering facts about it without presumption and letting the truth fall where it may. what is now known about genetics, and all of the other sciences suct as space and laws of nature preclude any possibility of darwins apothocie being fact. even the big bang theory points to a devine origin of everything. science has proven that the galaxy and everything in it could not have just spontainiously happened. there are certain rules that are followed by everything that exists from atoms to life. but again i degress.<br />
     i love my country. i love what it stands for. i love the constitution of the united states. it is the best and most beautiful thing that man has ever created because it does the ultimate,  short of what God has given us, of all documents. when it was written and accepted, for the first time since mankind fell, was destroyed in a flood and governments came into being, men were free. useing that freedom men once again enslaved men. men useing that same freedom are attempting to destroy the very freedoms they enjoy so that men will not have those freedoms ever again. to me this makes no sense whatsoever. i am ashamed that i too have sinned. i have sinned the sin of unattention and of not seeing that men are being men again. i have sinned because i believed in the honor and integrety of man. I trusted instead of watching. because of that something wonderful may very well die and those i love so much along with it. i would rather be in hell than to see this happen. if it cannot be fixed i will die fighting to get it so. any person that is helpig deliberately to destroy what is mine will die slowly and horribly if i am allowed to have my way. I have spoken.</p>
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		<title>By: Trouble</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/05/15/firearms-freedom-act-introduced-in-minnesota/comment-page-1/#comment-256177</link>
		<dc:creator>Trouble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BK- You and me both. I&#039;ve left the URL for this site all over Fox.  Gets some good and some bad, but that&#039;s exposure nonetheless.

CLC- Ya I had you pegged for a opnionated old codger right off the bat. :) Don&#039;t take offense, that&#039;s a compliment in my book!

Carole- Welcome to the dog pack. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BK- You and me both. I&#8217;ve left the URL for this site all over Fox.  Gets some good and some bad, but that&#8217;s exposure nonetheless.</p>
<p>CLC- Ya I had you pegged for a opnionated old codger right off the bat. <img src='http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Don&#8217;t take offense, that&#8217;s a compliment in my book!</p>
<p>Carole- Welcome to the dog pack. <img src='http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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