The Ignorant Expert. They’re Everywhere.

duhEDITOR’S NOTE: Tennessee SB0250 is a bill that would declare federal violations of the 2nd Amendment to be illegal within the state. The bill also provides for criminal penalties for federal agents who attempt to carry out such violations. Earlier this week, the bill was up for a hearing in the Tennessee State Senate, where Brian Kelsey sits as chair. (you can view the entire hearing at this link)

The bill will be heard again on Wednesday, 02-27. Tennessee residents are urged to support the bill.
(urgent action items at this link)

The following is a detailed response to Kelsey’s many distortions, misstatements, and historical inaccuracies. Whether you live in Tennessee or not, this article will be extremely valuable to you. Virtually every state has a “Brian Kelsey” of their own – someone who holds a position of power, who speaks and acts authoritatively about a subject they know very little about.

During a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on SB0250 earlier this week, Tennessee state Senator Brian Kelsey played the role of historian and constitutional expert. He lectured bill sponsor Sen. Mae Beavers, fellow committee members and the large crowd gathered in the chamber on the history of nullification and the structure of the Constitution itself.

Judging by his delivery, with his occasional condescending chuckles while “educating” people during the hearing, you’d think that Kelsey had spent years studying these important subjects and was some kind of expert. But based on the substance of his arguments and the endless litany of historical errors in his statements, it’s seems he might as well have learned about the Constitution in Chicago…from a certain lecturer named Obama.

I actually have to give the guy some credit for his ability to stuff so many misstatements and historical untruths into such a short amount of time.

JACKSON WASN’T A FOUNDING FATHER

To start, our expert chose President Andrew Jackson as his historical mouthpiece to imply that states cannot make determinations about the constitutionality of a federal act. Why he would choose Jackson over James Madison, the man considered “the father of the Constitution,” or Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, remains a mystery. Probably because both Jefferson and Madison insisted state legislatures DO have the authority to determine the constitutionality of a federal act, and that inconveniently undermines his position.

Or perhaps Kelsey simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

TRUTH 1. Brian Kelsey 0.

NULLIFICATION HAD A LONG HISTORY BEFORE 1832

Things start to clear up a bit the moment he opens his mouth and claims, “When this issue first came to a head in the United States…..in 1832 it was over the tariff.”

This represents a common viewpoint held by lawyers who simply never learned the history.

And it’s dead wrong.

The issue first came to head in 1798 when John Adams signed the Alien and Sedition Acts. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison responded by drafting resolutions that were passed by the Kentucky and Virginia legislatures respectively. Jefferson’s draft asserted that when the federal government exercises undelegated powers, a state has the right to “nullify of their own authority all assumptions of power.” Madison asserted that in case of a deliberate, palpable, and dangerous exercise of other powers, not granted by the Constitution, states “have the right, and are in duty bound, to interpose for arresting the progress of the evil.”

Time limitations prevent me from covering in any detail the nullification efforts that resisted military conscription in the early 19th century, or the Ohio effort to use nullification against the Central Bank.

TRUTH 2. Brian Kelsey 0.

SOUTH CAROLINA NULLIFIED VIA A POPULAR CONVENTION

Kelsey pressed on and further demonstrated his loose grip on historical facts.

He claimed the South Carolina legislature passed a resolution nullifying the “tariff of abominations.” It did no such thing. A convention of special delegates of the people passed the Ordinance of Nullification. Sure, this is nitpicking a bit, but when you’re dealing with a guy who acts like an expert, he better expect to be hammered on every little error he makes.

TRUTH 3. Brian Kelsey 0.

THE SUPREME COURT NEVER RULED ON THE “TARIFF OF ABOMINATIONS”

Kelsey then asserted that the Supreme Court ruled the tariff constitutional. It did no such thing. There’s no such case. It never happened. Generally, lawyers are pretty good at citing cases. In fact, that’s all they do. Most lawyers never even study anything before 1803. They don’t know a thing about the framing of the Constitution or the state ratifying conventions which gave it legal force. They only know case law. So for Kelsey, a lawyer, to just make up a supreme court case like this is such a big error on his part that I’m going to dock him an extra point.

But if he’s got a case that I don’t know about, I’m happy to give him a point.

TRUTH 5. Brian Kelsey 0.

SOUTH CAROLINA DIDN’T SIMPLY BACK DOWN

Kelsey would have you believe that this is how the nullification crisis was resolved.

After South Carolina attempted to nullify, Andrew Jackson convinced congress to pass a force bill, threatening to attack South Carolina if they didn’t give in. Then, South Carolina caved.

This is so wrong that it’s hard to chalk it up as ignorance. It’s totally made up.

Here’s what really happened (the short version). After South Carolina passed the nullification ordinance, Jackson first responded by saying that existing laws would be enough to put down the nullification. But South Carolina did not relent. So then, Jackson wanted to turn it up a notch. Jackson did in fact work with congress to introduce a force bill regarding South Carolina. But that bill was stalling in DC, and South Carolina wasn’t backing down.

Influential people were helping create a negotiation between Jackson’s supporters and the Nullifiers. Congress finally passed the Force Bill, but a reduced tariff, the Compromise Tariff of 1833, which was acceptable to both South Carolina and the Federal Government, was also passed.

It was only after a reduced tariff was passed by congress, that South Carolina finally reconvened their convention and repealed the Nullification Ordinance. At the same time, though, the convention also nullified Jackson’s force bill – to make clear that they felt that the reduced tariff was caused by the resistance of a single state.

That sure doesn’t sound like Kelsey’s version – a scared people backing down under threat. Sounds to me like they were giving a little Molon Labe message of their own. That’s what most people would call victory for nullification.

Instead, Kelsey wants you to believe something completely different.

TRUTH 6. Brian Kelsey 0.

NULLIFICATION WAS USED PROMINENTLY TO RESIST FEDERAL SLAVE-CATCHING LAWS

Then Kelsey claimed, “The issue has not really been raised again since then, to my knowledge, to the extent of actually arresting federal officers and/or having confrontation between the federal and state officersobviously other than the United States Civil War.”

Apparently our armchair historian has no knowledge of northern states passing Personal Liberty Laws to resist federal agents intent on capturing black people and shipping them back south into slavery during the 1840s and 1850s. In fact, many of these laws were passed in direct defiance of an actual Supreme Court ruling. He never learned that abolitionists used the arguments of South Carolina nullification architect John C. Calhoun to support their actions. And he has no clue that the Massachusetts Personal Liberty Act of 1855 did indeed include provisions for arresting federal officers.

Or, maybe he just doesn’t want you to know about it. Because if you did, he’d have a hard time arguing on the same side as the slave owners.

TRUTH 7. Brian Kelsey 0.

DANIEL WEBSTER SUPPORTED, THEN OPPOSED, THESE PRINCIPLES

The litany of errors continues. Kelsey said: “It was Daniel Webster who was leading the effort to nullify the tariff…you know one of the leading orators and members in United States Senate history who was pushing the issue at the time.”

Actually, Webster was a leading opponent of nullification. So, did Kelsey make an honest mistake and just get one word wrong?  Who knows, but at this point he’s made so many errors; he doesn’t get any more gimmes.

TRUTH 8. Brian Kelsey 0.

While we’re on the subject of Webster, here’s another historical tidbit that Kelsey probably doesn’t know – or doesn’t want you to know. The revered Massachusetts senator supported states using interposition to resist unconstitutional acts when the feds tried to conscript soldiers during the War of 1812. (this is one of those times where nullification came up prominently prior to 1832)

“The operation of measures thus unconstitutional and illegal ought to be prevented by a resort to other measures which are both constitutional and legal. It will be the solemn duty of the State governments to protect their own authority over their own militia, and to interpose between their citizens and arbitrary power. These are among the objects for which the State governments exist.” [emphasis added]

TRUTH 9. Brian Kelsey 0.

Having demonstrated Kelsey’s utter ineptitude as a historian, how can we depend on him to tell us whether Tennessee has the authority to nullify an unconstitutional federal act today? Well, you might argue, perhaps he has a tighter grasp on constitutional issues than he does history.

He doesn’t.

THE 10TH AMENDMENT IS A RULE OF CONSTRUCTION

Kelsey offered up one of the most bizarre and convoluted constitutional constructions ever. And I’ve heard some pretty weird ones.

“The Tenth Amendment does not apply to the supremacy clause.  The supremacy clause overrides the Tenth Amendment.”

Clearly, Kelsey doesn’t have a clue.  The Tenth Amendment doesn’t override any part of the Constitution, and no constitutional clause or provision overrides it either.  The Tenth Amendment is actually a “rule of construction.” As a lawyer, you’d think that Kelsey would understand that.  A legal rule of construction simply tells us how to view the document.  The Tenth Amendment, along with the Ninth, defines the Constitution as in instrument delegating specific, enumerated powers to the federal government, leaving the bulk of authority to the people of the states, where it was already vested prior to ratification. It makes it clear that the federal government may not exercise powers it was not delegated.

On the other hand, the supremacy clause is a “conflict-of-laws rule,” specifying that a federal act in pursuance of the Constitution take priority over any state acts that conflict with it. Laws “in pursuance” of the Constitution constitute those enacted by the federal government within the scope of its enumerated powers. Acts claiming power outside of those delegated powers are not laws at all. They are usurpations of power, by definition unauthoritative and of no force. That would be the exact opposite of “supreme.”

During the hearing, Beavers pointed out that only those laws made in pursuance of the constitution stand supreme. It seemed to go right past Kelsey. Either he actually believes that the federal government can do whatever it wants, no matter what; no limitations, no questions asked, or he’s intentionally ignoring the truth.

TRUTH 10. Brian Kelsey 0.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED….UNLESS WE SAY SO?

Kelsey claims he supports the Second Amendment. But his comments in the hearing make it clear he does not. He said the supremacy clause “seems to override the particular issues that may or may not be brought up.”

Again our Obama-style expert doesn’t understand the most basic constitutional construction. The Bill of Rights was ratified to further limit the power of the federal government. The preamble to the Bill states clearly that it existed:

“in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of [the federal government's] powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best ensure the beneficent ends of its institution.”

The Bill of Rights further restricts federal powers. In essence, the Second Amendment says, “Hey federal government – even while exercising legitimate powers, such as regulating interstate commerce, you still may not infringe on the right to keep and bear arms.”

TRUTH 11. Brian Kelsey 0.

AN INTERESTING HISTORY AND CONCLUSION

Ironically, at one time Kelsey supported a bill defying federal power on firearms. In fact, he bragged about it during the hearing.

“I was a supporter of the bill, the original bill that you passed in here a couple of years ago that upheld the Second Amendment rights of Tennesseans for firearms and ammunition that were produced in the state of Tennessee and did not leave the borders of Tennessee.  So I am on record as having supported that,” he said.

Yes indeed. And the 2009 Tennessee Firearms Freedom Act clearly defies the 2005 Gonzales v. Raich decision broadly defining federal power to “regulate commerce between the states,” certainly to the extent that it would allow for regulating firearms within the borders of Tennessee. So, doesn’t that mean Kelsey’s OK with the state conflicting with the feds?  What’s his issue with SB0250?

When you boil it all down, it seems Kelsey simply wants an excuse to avoid moving forward with the bill. He said he wants to “receive an Attorney General opinion on that issue so we would have clarity, or perhaps not clarity, so that we could have a better idea as to what the law has been throughout the history of the United States regarding the interplay of the supremacy clause and any Second Amendment issues.”

Well, we already know that Attorney General Bob Cooper is the kind of guy that will omit three words from the Constitution when issuing a constitutional opinion, completely distorting the truth. He already did this in his opinion on the Tennessee Health Care Freedom Act. Which, by the way, the Tennessee legislature passed anyway.

Michael Maharrey, Lesley Swann and Kelli Sladick contributed research for this article.

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44 Responses to The Ignorant Expert. They’re Everywhere.

  1. PhilDedrick February 22, 2013 at 3:50 pm #

    Very informational and Very Very Authoritative…A great article…

    • Michael Boldin February 23, 2013 at 2:04 pm #

      @PhilDedrick Thank you, Phil.  With great help from the good folks listed at the bottom of the article – we were able to put out what we believe to be some very good information here.
       
      I welcome Brian to point out any errors that we’ve made and I’ll adjust the points.  Maybe it’ll get as close as 9-2 or 8-3.  I’m pretty confident that 11-0 is a proper score though.

      • PhilDedrick February 23, 2013 at 2:12 pm #

        @Michael Boldin If Brian votes nay, I assure you in his district next election he will lose…The Tea Party is strong there…

      • PhilDedrick February 23, 2013 at 2:27 pm #

        @Michael Boldin I am sure you are aware of this information, but check it out sir…   http://publiushhuldah.wordpress.com/2013/01/31/james-madison-rebukes-nullification-deniers/

        • PhilDedrick February 23, 2013 at 2:30 pm #

          @Michael Boldin Sorry, it is here>>>   http://publiushuldah.wordpress.com/?ref=spelling

        • gigg101 February 23, 2013 at 4:22 pm #

          @PhilDedrick  Excellent resource – thank you for sharing this!

        • PhilDedrick February 23, 2013 at 4:39 pm #

          @gigg101 I have just now found out that the gentleman that wrote that article will be speaking at the Judiciary Meeting next week at the Capitol in Nashville…There will be a taped video of it available that night…

        • gigg101 February 23, 2013 at 4:51 pm #

          @PhilDedrick I’m going to try and get off of work and go if possible – take my teen-aged son with me so he can observe as well.

  2. Maxs3h5bgxe February 22, 2013 at 7:48 pm #

    @MoManda http://t.co/tg4KEve64T

  3. gigg101 February 23, 2013 at 10:56 am #

    I just sent an email to the full committee with these facts… let’s see if it does any good.  Frankly, given that Kelsey is representing a district in and around Memphis I see his position as a lot of posturing to try and keep his seat, being a supposed (R) in a very (D) district.

    • Michael Boldin February 23, 2013 at 2:02 pm #

      @gigg101 It was hard to keep it from being more personal, actually.  I think cocky people like Kelsey are doing more damage to liberty than the obvious opponents.  He was chucking as he was claiming these so-called facts.
       
      I think he should apologize to the people of his State.

      • TaskForce16 February 23, 2013 at 2:58 pm #

        @Michael Boldin  @gigg101
         Sometimes it can be hard to tell bold faced lies with a straight face.

      • gigg101 February 23, 2013 at 4:19 pm #

        @Michael Boldin Oh I can imagine – I would have not done so well as I respond poorly to arrogance to that degree.  I did get a couple of shots in on my email but somehow I doubt he will even read it.  It was sent more for the benefit of the other committee members, and also to let Sen. Beavers and Rep. Butt know there are supporters out there.  
         
        Seems a great many of Tennessee’s elected folks owe us apologies and either their resignations or immediate rectification of the wrongs they have done… and while I’m dreaming, they should send us all a big wad of cash and a deed to our own personal islands… *sigh*  Gov Haslam and Sen. Corker have both been HUGE disappointments over the last little while… Corker was good up to a point but lately he has completely sold out, voting for both the appointment of Hagel and the sending of the jets/tanks to tne MB in Egypt.  Seems no one can be trusted these days.

    • gigg101 February 27, 2013 at 9:28 am #

      He finally sent a response but did not address any of the items pertaining to the errors in his speech… all he had to say was this:
       
      “Dear Ms. Pershing,
       
      I apologize if my request for an Attorney General’s opinion is misleading. I assure you that I am a strong proponent of the Second Amendment. I also voted for Lt. Governor Ramsey’s bill SB 0142, which will allow gun carry-permit owners to have guns in their vehicles.
       
      SB 250 was sent to the State Attorney General’s office, in order to address some issues involving the Federal Government’s interstate commerce power and the issue of charging federal officials with a Class B felony if they attempt to enforce federal law.
       
      Sincerely,
       
      Brian Kelsey
      State Senator, District 31
      Bartlett , Cordova, East Memphis, Germantown , & Hickory Hill
      7 Legislative Plaza
      Nashville , TN 37243-0231
      (615)7413036 office
      (615)253-0266 fax
      Sen.brian.kelsey@capitol.tn.gov

  4. kkdgrace February 23, 2013 at 2:29 pm #

    @Southrngirl77 “have 2 give<> guy credit 4<>ability 2 stuff so many misstatements<>historical untruths in2 such..short amount of time.” Aha!

  5. TaskForce16 February 23, 2013 at 2:37 pm #

    Here’s how dumb Kelsey is. He introduced a bill (SB0012) that, if passed,
    “As introduced, for purposes of criminal code, expands the definition of serious bodily injury to include any bodily injury that involves a wound from a firearm. – Amends TCA Section 39-11-106.”
    Well duuuh! Apparently Senator Kelsey thinks Tennesseans are too stupid to understand that GETTING SHOT leads to serious bodily injury. A person would have to be pretty darned stupid not to figure that out for themselves. Unfortunately, there are few folks out there that ARE just that stupid. The bill has been withdrawn.

    • gigg101 February 23, 2013 at 4:10 pm #

      @TaskForce16 Hmmm… maybe he’s just jealous that their bill is getting more attention and support than his did… LOL   But yes, there are far too many people that stupid these days :(  as evidenced on election day.

  6. TaskForce16 February 23, 2013 at 2:56 pm #

    I had also emailed a copy of a “Letter to the Editor” that I submitted (and was published in Jan) in our local news paper, that addressed the “supremacy Clause” and the “10th Amendment”, to all the members of the Senate Judicial committee.
    I’m going to also email them all and point out to them that the 2nd Amendment, being part of the US Constitution, IS the “supreme Law of the Land”, in accordence with the “Supremacy Clause”. I’m also going to point out to them that there are no exceptions or qualifiers in the text of the 2nd Amendmnet as to who can or can’t “keep and bear Arms”, or as to what type “Arms” We the People are allowed to “keep and bear”.
    As the 2nd Amendment stands now, ALL restrictive gun laws (Fed and/or State) are unconstitutional, as they violate the Constitution (the 2nd being part thereof). I know that may stick in the craw of allot of folks, but, “It is what it IS”.

  7. rivcopi February 26, 2013 at 6:44 pm #

    This is a great article, but you made the same mistake your opponent did — you don’t cite your sources! You know what people do when you say “I read it on the Internet.” ;-)   Please go back and provide sources for at least the key statements in this article.

    • Michael Boldin February 26, 2013 at 7:12 pm #

      @rivcopi kelsey didn’t cite sources because they don’t exists.  I intentionally left them off – so you can look them up yourself….

  8. TaskForce16 February 26, 2013 at 8:20 pm #

    The TN House Civil Justice Subcommittee will be considering the companion bill to SB 0250 (HB0248) tommorrow. I just sent them all an email as follows.
     
    Chairman and members of the TN House Civil Justice Subcommittee,
     
      In considering HB0248, introduced by Rep. Butt, I hope you will consider the following.
     
      US Constitution, Article VI, paragraph 2 (Supremacy Clause):
     
     ”This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges of every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.”
     
      Note that the Laws of the United States (Fed Government) must be in compliance (in Pursuance) with the Constitution.  The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution, being a PART OF said document, is the “Supreme Law of the Land.”
     
      The 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution reads as follows: “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
     
      In order for “We the People” to be an affective “Unorganized Militia” (as defined by 10 USC 311) it is imperative that the “unorganized Militia” be armed with appropriate “Arms” to defend ourselves, our communities, our State, against criminals and other enemies of OUR liberties, be they foreign or domestic. Also note, that there are no exceptions in the text of the 2nd Amendment, as to who can or can’t “keep and bear Arms”, nor as to what type “Arms” we the People can or cannot “Keep and Bear”.
     
       Again, I point out, that the 2nd Amendment, being a PART OF the Constitution of the United States, is the “Supreme Law of the Land”. This means that neither the Federal Government or any State can make any law that violates the 2nd Amendment, as long as it stands AS WRITTEN. The Fed Government AND the many States already have laws/statutes that violate this enumerated “right of the people”. It is the duty of the many States to “nullify” ANY Federal Law that is in violation of the US Constitution.
     
    The 10th Amendment fully applies here. “Powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
     
      I ask you all, to consider this. There has been a massive surge in firearms and ammunition sales (many of which are included in US Sen. Feinstein’s proposed Assault Weapons ban) across the nation. We the People ARE NOT arming up just to surrender our 2nd Amendment Right. Quite the contrary! We are preparing to use our Arms and the 2nd Amendment for the purpose they were intended by the founders of our Constitutional nation. We intend to stand our ground against any tyrannical oppression. You are all obligated, as elected officials of this State, to stand up for the people of Tennessee, against unconstitutional activities of the Fed Government.
     
        Please expedite HB0248 to the TN House floor for a vote in the General Assembly.
     
      Thank you

  9. TaskForce16 February 28, 2013 at 12:05 am #

    SB0250 failed in Judicial Committee with a 4-4 vote.
     
    Yeas were: Campfield (R), Bell (R), Gardenhire (R), and Green (R)
    No’s were: Kelsey (R), Overly (R), Finney (D), and Stevens (R)
    Ford (D) didn’t vote.
     
    The House companion bill (HB0248) is still in Civik Justice Subcommittee, deferred until 3/6/2013
     
    There’s still another nullification bill that hasn’t gone through the Sen Judicial committee yet. SB0100 intorduced by Sen Joey Hensley. House companion bill is HB0042 introduced by J Carr. It would still make attempting to enforce new Fed gun Laws, in TN, a Class A misdermeaner.

  10. PhilDedrick February 28, 2013 at 12:42 am #

    SB0849 By Senator Bill Ketron is the only way to go…

  11. MatheusGrunt March 1, 2013 at 7:48 am #

    I read this whole article, albeit it took me a couple of days since I’ve been immersing myself with every single intelligent 2nd Amendment and Constitutional article I can find. I enjoyed this piece and I support it all the way. Tyranny has been going on too long now.

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