Interposition Now!

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By: Professor Michael S. Greve
The following originally appeared on the Library of Law & Liberty website and is reprinted with permission.

Hope, Advent reminds us, often comes from unlikely protagonists and places, such as a peasant girl in a no-name village. In the less earth-shattering but still consequential case of constitutional federalism, hope comes from frightened state politicians: they can, should, and very likely will interpose their authority against the national government, in protection of their citizens.

The notion of state “interposition” is usually traced to Madison’s and Jefferson’s 1798 Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions. Those resolutions, sent from the two states’ legislatures to legislatures in other states, well served their intended purpose of launching Thomas Jefferson’s campaign for the presidency. But they don’t make much constitutional sense. The whole point of the Constitution is that the federal government can tax and regulate citizens without the states’ help; and since federal law always trumps state law, it’s hard to see what and how—short of armed rebellion or secession—states could “interpose” the feds’ designs. The Resolutions contain a lot of bluster to the effect that the right to string up people for seditious libel really belongs to states and not the feds, but that’s about it.

That was then, though, and this is now. The heart and soul of our government is the delivery of services, benefits, and entitlements; and with the exceptions of Social Security and the federal tax code, all of that work is being done through and with the assistance of state and local governments: education, transportation, welfare, housing, food stamps, medical services, the environment, etc., etc. States cannot be compelled to do that work (the Constitution gets in the way); they have to be asked and incentivized. Under the “cooperative” federalism programs that implement the states-do-the-feds’-bidding m.o., states gain what they lacked in 1798: an institutional trump against the feds. And for the first time in memory, states now have a powerful incentive to play that trump. They will very likely do so within the next two or three years, to altogether salutary effect.

Squeeze Play

The States Project (a joint enterprise of Harvard’s Institute of Politics, the Fels Institute of Government at the University of Pennsylvania, and the American Education Foundation) has recently released its 2012 State of the States Report. It paints an unremittingly grim picture of unfunded pension obligations (upwards of $3.4 trillion), a crumbling infrastructure, out-of-control health care expenditures, and increased state dependency on federal transfer payments. More than ever, Medicaid—as yet, still in its pre-Obamacare configuration—takes the cake. Federal Medicaid payments come to $265 billion, or 43.3% of all federal transfers. (K-12 education and food stamps are next, at slightly over $100 billion and about 17% each.) Pennsylvania and Massachusetts spend over 40 percent of their budgets on health care. In Illinois, Missouri, and North Carolina, Medicaid alone consumes more than 30 percent of the state budget. The rest of the country isn’t really different, the Report notes. It’s just a tad behind the curve.

Having painted a harrowing picture, the Report comes up with decidedly lame recommendations for better bookkeeping and improved intergovernmental “dialogue”—plus two substantive recommendations:

States must reduce Medicaid costs. While supporting the public safety net is an important priority, states must balance this need with other objectives, such as supporting education and infrastructure. 

States must tackle persistent unemployment by supporting education on all levels, giving citizens the skills necessary to compete in a 21st century job market.

Sorry, dear policy experts: ain’t gonna happen. See page 16 of your Report:

 

Wow. This momentous shift over a very short time lends urgency to the experts’ recommendations. However, the stern “states must” policy advice is feckless: states “must” reduce Medicaid expenses and support education with what? The federal government expects state and local Medicaid expenses to “settle” into an annual growth rate of 7.4 – 7.7 percent, assuming full implementation of Obamacare (about which more anon). But even without that program, state and local government expenses will double over roughly a decade. State revenues won’t. So where is the money going to come from? Answer, in large measure: the next-best federally funded programs—education.

Hurrah: at long last, the entitlement state has begun to eat its own. The biggest federally funded program (Medicaid) is competing directly with the next-biggest set of programs (education). State politicians are now squeezed between the two most voracious (and unionized) constituencies in American politics: the education blob, and the health care/AARP/provider complex.  They will want a way out; otherwise, they’re toast. And the only way out is interposition to Obamacare.

Farewell, Obamacare

Obamacare est omnis divisa in partes tres: Medicare, a grandly expanded Medicaid, and health care “exchanges.” Crucially, both Medicaid and the exchanges require the states’ active cooperation. The Affordable Care Act seeks to “incentivize” states to cooperate in Medicaid’s expansion by offering 100 percent federal reimbursements for previously uncovered individuals. (Over time, the payment is scheduled to decline to 90 percent.) Obamacare seeks the states’ cooperation in establishing exchanges by threatening the establishment of federal exchanges in states that fail to see the good sense of the overall system.

It now looks as if a good number of states will decline either of those offers. As for Medicaid, many states fear not only the marginal added cost in the out-years but also, and far more, the lock-in effect: once the feds have lured states into expanding the covered population and services, they are free to reduce their promised payments—and leave states holding the bag. Ordinarily, state politicians ignore these dangers because their time horizon extends no farther than the next election. Evidently, however, the situation is sufficiently dire, the counter-pressure is sufficiently severe, and the federal government’s commitments are sufficiently empty, to have prompted an outbreak of long-term thinking and public spiritedness. Something like that is also true of the exchanges: the power to establish a state exchange is the power to be commandeered by Kathleen Sebelius from here to eternity. No, thank you.

Should a sufficient number of states stick to an interpositionist position, Obamacare will still consist of three parts: a quarum unam  incolunt Belgae Medicare program that wreaks havoc on the federal budget, and a Medicaid-cum-exchange system that will leave millions of poor and near-poor consumers in the lurch. They can’t be covered under a non-existent Medicaid program, and they can’t receive subsidized insurance under non-existent exchanges. The uninsured on whose behalf the Affordable Care Act was ostensibly enacted will gain a lot of company in a real hurry. At which point, Obamacare will collapse. Or so one hopes.

Come the Constitution

In a pre-election Wall Street Journal op-ed, my brother-in-arms-and-despair Chris DeMuth warned that the election would have one irreversible consequence: President Obama’s reelection would render Obamacare effectively irreversible (and there goes the country). That may well be right. However, state interposition—meaning a refusal to cooperate in Medicaid or exchanges—may yet produce an Obamacare crash-and-burn within the President’s term in office. Moreover, and more importantly , it may produce a collapse on constitutional terms, provided someone can articulate them.

Envision early 2014, when Obamacare will fully kick in: if a sufficient number of states hold out, the system will break. Mrs. Sebelius cannot run a workable exchange in a single state, let alone 13 or 16. Small employers will cancel whatever health insurance they once offered. And far from expanding Medicaid, states follow the States Project’s sage advice to hack away at the system and its beneficiaries. The uninsured—the ostensible beneficiaries of the law— get a lot morecompany. Lawsuits over HHS regulations come from the left, the right, and the AHIP whores who slobbered this statutory Johnson and now demand to be paid: what happens then?

Politics- and policy-wise I have no idea. I am, however, quite confident of the constitutional possibilities.

It will be said—by, e.g., E.J. Dionne and Ezra Klein, whose prospective columns I offer to write for them now so they can attend to their full-time occupation as shills—that Obamacare would have worked but for partisan opposition in the states. It wouldn’t have, but the far more important point is that state opposition is how the system is supposed to work. A ruthless partisan scheme will beget ruthless partisan opposition: that’s how we check ambition.

The Madisonian precept gains special force and constitutional dignity in the context of federal programs that require, or rather imperiously demand, the states’ active cooperation. A state failure to do the feds’ bidding is not an ugly outbreak of neo-Calhounism. The power to interpose comes from a form of government that the Constitution permits but, unmistakably, treats as deeply suspect: a government over governments. States have been complicit in that scheme for far too long. Saying “no” to a further extension—for partisan reasons, fiscal reasons, or no reason at all—is an implicit embrace of a constitutional proposition: the feds have their sphere, and we (the states) have ours. If the feds insist on their scheme, let them do so with their money and their officers: they have the power. If they want to work through us, we interpose. The Constitution contemplates it; allows it; and very nearly demands it.

Behold: from the rubble and depredations and fiscal ruin of our politics, a constitutional thought and agenda.

Michael S. Greve is a professor at George Mason University School of Law. From 2000 to August, 2012, Professor Greve was the John G. Searle Scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, where he remains a visiting scholar. Before coming to AEI, Professor Greve cofounded and, from 1989 to 2000, directed the Center for Individual Rights, a public interest law firm. He holds a Ph.D. and M.A. in government from Cornell University, and completed his undergraduate studies at the University of Hamburg.

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WilliamSchooler
WilliamSchooler

Interposition is a very great example of today.

I had to look it up in the dictionary because truly it made no  sense to me. After looking it up and reading this story I cannot help but think how many will simply assume they know this? Nullify is another word or actually a set of symbols that represent, but what does it truly represent? These symbols describe an act of doing something because of something so to announce we no longer agree as a state with a Federal Government and sever the agreement. So in simple terms to decide and announce publicly no agreement exist.

 

All of this wrapped up in one word to simplify life correct?

Nullify; So in simple terms to decide and announce publicly no agreement exist.

 

I am not so sure, how many people actually picked up a dictionary looked it up and figured out what it is describing? Most look at the definitions and work to assimilate what it means, in relations to what is a whole other story.

Then we get to interposition and I am running around in my mind asking what on earth will this describe, the act of getting between or put up a block or to influence in between. Any one of those and I am sitting back asking myself why, screw that nullify.

 

Here is the problem, the supposed literate world before us worked real hard not to bring understanding to our world, they actually did the act of dominating or imposing on others wild versions of symbol creation to implement authority. This was done through the magic of interpretation. By causing interpretation you could dominate the many. This is history folks get over it.

 

Now we have the intellectual class who never studied this part of history who have gone to great lengths to gather all the different organized symbols and attempt to speak them to be or LOOK intelligent over those unwilling to put themselves through what is one of the most painful experiences of my life.

 

So this is funny to me, we use and authoritative language to nullify authority don’t we? So we practice authority to end the authority which all of it was made up in the first place to display something that is not there. And today (no disrespect Michael) is the display of this authoritative practice, the effects of authoritative activities and authority grows and genuine  intent is LOST.

 

Look at all presidents and most of Congress or the Senate and all the lawyers involved all doing the acts of interpretation, the practice of domination, to out smart some other interpretation. What is similar to those in this article?

The display of intellectual organization of words over a clear picture presented, the passing down of this practice as though it is a ok all because no investigation of why it was created this way at all.

 

The act of people to get in between or to not agree are done by simple every day people but I have personally met many today intent on looking as something more than the something itself which leads me to question WHY? Every College educated person will dispute this until they are green, why? Its true so why? Because it is trained into them to be this way, they have put all this effort into it, went into full agreement with it for YEARS and formed all these very important habits around it for YEARS and will take anybody down who can point out otherwise.

 

My very important question to all of you out there is, what actions can we do without all the fluff to deliver the decision, the announcement and the act of nullification?

 

I know we have to deal with federal officials who only know the intellectual practice and not the act of doing and so if we cannot compete with their poor practice we are screwed right?

 

How is agreement established to achieve a thing? Through the act of understanding or old habits of false authority and interpretation?

Is the act of announcing a separation more pronounced if one agrees or if 5000 agree? When do we use our actual abilities and stop worrying about how pretty we all look?

What is the point of Nullification or to interpose for that matter if not to act by such agreement?

 

Please let this sink in because our communities need it, our states need it, our independence needs it and our own understanding of each other really needs it.

 

Lets stop all the poor practices of yesterday and start creating far better practices from lessons we have leaned and shared with one another, after all we are capable of such acts.

 

Then look at this; imagine a bunch of interpreting who cannot understand each other, wont read bills because of it and make very poor agreements, now look at your government and what do you really see? Not much that works for sure. WHY?

 

KansasBright
KansasBright

First, the US Constitution is the supreme law of this land, NOT the federal government. Every law, bill, amendment (I'd say executive order but NONE of them are legal) must be in pursuance of it or they are 'null and void' and it does not matter what time period they were created in. Plus the federal laws ONLY 'trump' state laws where they 'overlap' so that there would be no conflict. The US Constitution plainly lays out the federal governments domain. The powers taken since then are not legal so their is no conflict - state laws trump federal laws except where the US Constitution says they do not.

 

The three branches of our government,, heads of states, the military, all law enforcement, the heads of the States, all federal employees are required to take an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and NOT an individual leader, ruler, office, or entity. Once given, the Oath is binding for life, unless renounced, refused, and abjured. It does not cease upon the occasions of leaving office or of discharge. They all take a legally binding Oath to support and defend the US Constitution, except for the president. The president's required Oath is *deliberately different.

 

The first law statute of the United States of America, enacted in the first session of the First Congress on 1 June 1789, was Statute 1, Chapter 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution.

 

The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 10: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

 

The requirement for all Federal and State Civil officers to give their solemn and binding Oath is established in Article VI, Section 1, Clause 4: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

 

They are bound by their Oath to support the Constitution, and should they abrogate their Oath by their acts or inaction, are subject to charges of impeachment and censure.

 

Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited”, “The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration - both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”.

 

Consideration: “Consideration in a contract is a bargained for exchange of acts or forbearance of an act”.

 

Bound: “Being under legal or moral obligation; To constitute the boundary or limit of; To set a limit to; confine”.

 

Require, Requirement, Required: "To claim or ask for by right and authority; Mandated under a law or by an authoritative entity. That which is required; a thing demanded or obligatory; something demanded or imposed as an obligation."

 

The Framers specifically placed the presidential Oath of Office between preceding clauses that set forth the organization of the executive department, and the succeeding clauses specifying the President's executive power. The President takes the oath after he assumes the office but before he can execute it.

 

*There is more then one clause that requires an oath, but the presidential is the only clause that actually specifies the language of the oath for that specific position. Article VI's Oaths requires the persons specified therein to "be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution", while the Presidential Oath requires substantially more than an oath of allegiance and fidelity. The President is required to swear (or affirm) that he "will to the best of his Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." The phrasing ties the Presidential duty directly to the "preservation, protection and defense" of the Constitution, plus the location and phrasing of the Oath creates limits on how the President's "executive power" is to be exercised. The relationship shared between the Oath of Office and Article II's Clause (requiring the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed") with the duty to faithfully execute the Constitution as supreme law; plus the "preserve, protect and defend" language of the Oath of Office places a specific duty on all Presidents to fight for the US Constitution's survival.

 

None of the three branches may legally do anything that is not authorized by the Constitution. Those in the federal government; Senators, Congress, federal judges, President, and the other officials are there to carry out the duties assigned each branch by the Constitution. 

 

When they go beyond those assigned duties, “We the People” are to take action. In Federalist 33, Alexander Hamilton clearly shows this when he says:

 

“If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed [the Constitution], and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.”

 

Executive Order 10450 (I know I said all executive orders are illegal - making a point with this one) was issued as a guideline for determining what actions constituted a criminal violation of the Oath of Office by federal officials with the order affirming the law of 5 U.S.C. 7311 that it’s a criminal violation under 18 U.S.C. 1918 for a member of the government, including members of Congress, to “advocate the overthrow of our constitutional form of government.”

 

Executive Order 10450 states: “Whereas the interest of the national security require that all persons privileged to be employed in…the Government shall be reliable, trustworthy, of good conduct and character, and of complete and unswerving loyalty to the United States… it is hereby ordered as follows: … (4) Advocacy of use of force or violence to overthrow the government of the United States, or of the alteration of the form of the government of the United States by unconstitutional means.”

 

I bet anyone on this site can name numerous unconstitutional "means" that goes back to soon after the start of our Constitutional Republic (it is the nature of man). But for brevities sake, I am going to use a few major 'newer ones' not necesarily in order.

 

UN's Agenda 21 is a big one; Bush - Obama all supporting and carrying out someone OTHER then the people who they are to represent dictates with NDAA, Patriot Act, warrant less searches/spying/tracking/etc, assassination, torture, undeclared wars, giving authority over the USA to the UN - also TREASON, giving authority over the US Military to the UN - if not treason it should be, but it IS illegal.

 

Going beyond this to "All states are guaranteed a republican form of government".

 

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