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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/12/11/original-intent-understanding-meaning/comment-page-1/#comment-906479</link>
		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Roberto Benitez@KathleenMoore I just saw a comment to you on Republic vs. Democracy by Tascmanwylie in another thread.  You might not want to skip &quot;Democracy or Republic&quot; if you want another angle on that idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roberto Benitez@KathleenMoore I just saw a comment to you on Republic vs. Democracy by Tascmanwylie in another thread.  You might not want to skip &#8220;Democracy or Republic&#8221; if you want another angle on that idea.</p>
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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/12/11/original-intent-understanding-meaning/comment-page-1/#comment-906478</link>
		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Roberto Benitez@KathleenMoore Thanks, Roberto.  I don&#039;t know what brought on that diatribe by Kathleen.  The last I remember we were allies fighting the North American Union.

 

If you&#039;re interested, I&#039;ve got my take on Fascism and the false political spectrum we&#039;re offered in this post in my Lost Liberty blog.  You can scroll past &quot;Democracy or Republic?&quot; to &quot;Fraudulent Political Spectrum.&quot;

http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/2011/12/myths-misconceptions-and-misdirections.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Roberto Benitez@KathleenMoore Thanks, Roberto.  I don&#8217;t know what brought on that diatribe by Kathleen.  The last I remember we were allies fighting the North American Union.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re interested, I&#8217;ve got my take on Fascism and the false political spectrum we&#8217;re offered in this post in my Lost Liberty blog.  You can scroll past &#8220;Democracy or Republic?&#8221; to &#8220;Fraudulent Political Spectrum.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/2011/12/myths-misconceptions-and-misdirections.html" rel="nofollow">http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/2011/12/myths-misconceptions-and-misdirections.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Benitez</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/12/11/original-intent-understanding-meaning/comment-page-1/#comment-906418</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto Benitez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 08:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@KathleenMoore I found it interesting that you used the word fascism  in describing Mr. Obama&#039;s regime. Here&#039;s an excellent definition of fascism I found on the internet; &quot;Fascism is an economic model in which the state dictates the utilization of privately held assets to achieve public policy goals.&quot;

 

I believe this is exactly what&#039;s happening to America today. We&#039;re rapidly changing from the USA to the USSA. Fascism is one side of a coin the other side being socialism.

 

By the way, in my exchanges with phreedomphan, I&#039;ve come away with the distinct impression he&#039;s hardly a fan of Mr. Obama. He might even agree with me that Mr. (intention) Obama is a Fabian socialist Muslim with nothing but disdain for the Constitution.

 

Let me add that on certain sites I also uses an aircraft as an avatar and a pseudonym due to death threats from rabid leftists. One such site is OpEdNews run by Rob Kall. I believe, but have no proof, that Kall allowed them access to my private information as he&#039;s an extreme leftist who couldn&#039;t stand me as a politically incorrect conservative curmudgeon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KathleenMoore I found it interesting that you used the word fascism  in describing Mr. Obama&#8217;s regime. Here&#8217;s an excellent definition of fascism I found on the internet; &#8220;Fascism is an economic model in which the state dictates the utilization of privately held assets to achieve public policy goals.&#8221;</p>
<p>I believe this is exactly what&#8217;s happening to America today. We&#8217;re rapidly changing from the USA to the USSA. Fascism is one side of a coin the other side being socialism.</p>
<p>By the way, in my exchanges with phreedomphan, I&#8217;ve come away with the distinct impression he&#8217;s hardly a fan of Mr. Obama. He might even agree with me that Mr. (intention) Obama is a Fabian socialist Muslim with nothing but disdain for the Constitution.</p>
<p>Let me add that on certain sites I also uses an aircraft as an avatar and a pseudonym due to death threats from rabid leftists. One such site is OpEdNews run by Rob Kall. I believe, but have no proof, that Kall allowed them access to my private information as he&#8217;s an extreme leftist who couldn&#8217;t stand me as a politically incorrect conservative curmudgeon.</p>
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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 01:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@KathleenMoore I did exactly what I said I did.  I went to your habeascorpus site from the link you posted here and most certainly got the message I said.  I didn&#039;t make it up.

 

I was actually trying to give you a heads up.  Had I known you were such a psychotic liar, I wouldn&#039;t have bothered.  I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about in the rest of your rant.  Can you be specific in your accusations?  You should be able to make up something.  Maybe you can make up a place where you &quot;blocked&quot; me.  I certainly never encountered such a block.

 

&quot;You must be delighted with the Obama regime&#039;s neighborhood fascism, citizen spying, and indefinite detention plans.&quot;  Anyone who&#039;s read my blogs or the posts I&#039;ve made on-line knows that sentence was the product of a defective mind.

 

One of the reasons I don&#039;t put my name and face online is that I was once stalked by another psychopath.

 

http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/

http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/

 

BTW, I&#039;ve never blocked anyone anywhere.  I&#039;m not a gutless wonder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KathleenMoore I did exactly what I said I did.  I went to your habeascorpus site from the link you posted here and most certainly got the message I said.  I didn&#8217;t make it up.</p>
<p>I was actually trying to give you a heads up.  Had I known you were such a psychotic liar, I wouldn&#8217;t have bothered.  I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about in the rest of your rant.  Can you be specific in your accusations?  You should be able to make up something.  Maybe you can make up a place where you &#8220;blocked&#8221; me.  I certainly never encountered such a block.</p>
<p>&#8220;You must be delighted with the Obama regime&#8217;s neighborhood fascism, citizen spying, and indefinite detention plans.&#8221;  Anyone who&#8217;s read my blogs or the posts I&#8217;ve made on-line knows that sentence was the product of a defective mind.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I don&#8217;t put my name and face online is that I was once stalked by another psychopath.</p>
<p><a href="http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://phreedomphan-lostliberty.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://phreedomphan-americasenemies.blogspot.com/</a></p>
<p>BTW, I&#8217;ve never blocked anyone anywhere.  I&#8217;m not a gutless wonder.</p>
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		<title>By: KathleenMoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathleenMoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 23:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@phreedomphan@KathleenMoore

-  I altered my DNS long before I posted my message above, so that my  top-level domain uses a different backup site where there is no such  FALSE message, an error caused by my old backup site in a free host that  has a lot of serious problems.

 

There is, therefore, NO WAY you would have gotten the  webroot error of my site as a &quot;threat&quot; by clicking my domain above AFTER  I posted it here, because that url had been totally changed by then.

 

So, perhaps you &quot;follow&quot; me more than you admit, which  would have to be the case for you to have noticed the false &quot;threat&quot;  message that was removed several days before I posted here. 

 

You  seem to enjoy the subject of &quot;threats&quot;, as I recall, which is why I  have had to block you in other locations online. You must be delighted  with the Obama regime&#039;s neighborhood fascism, citizen spying, and indefinite detention plans.

 

Why don&#039;t you put your face and your real name online, Mr. &quot;Phreedom&quot; Phan?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@phreedomphan@KathleenMoore</p>
<p>-  I altered my DNS long before I posted my message above, so that my  top-level domain uses a different backup site where there is no such  FALSE message, an error caused by my old backup site in a free host that  has a lot of serious problems.</p>
<p>There is, therefore, NO WAY you would have gotten the  webroot error of my site as a &#8220;threat&#8221; by clicking my domain above AFTER  I posted it here, because that url had been totally changed by then.</p>
<p>So, perhaps you &#8220;follow&#8221; me more than you admit, which  would have to be the case for you to have noticed the false &#8220;threat&#8221;  message that was removed several days before I posted here. </p>
<p>You  seem to enjoy the subject of &#8220;threats&#8221;, as I recall, which is why I  have had to block you in other locations online. You must be delighted  with the Obama regime&#8217;s neighborhood fascism, citizen spying, and indefinite detention plans.</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you put your face and your real name online, Mr. &#8220;Phreedom&#8221; Phan?</p>
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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@RobertoBenitez (continued from above)

We have taken on the role of “World Policeman” in accord with the wishes of British Imperialist Cecil Rhodes, and continue to destroy any regimes that do not kow-tow to international finance. Saddam, Gaddafi, and now the leaders of Iran refused to permit the bankers to reduce the people to serfdom. For that we engineered the murders of the first two and are preparing to bomb the third into the stone age.

 

I&#039;ve long held that our continued allegiance to Mutha England made a large part of the world our enemies and our alliance with Israel is taking care of the rest. In fact, England and Israel are so irrevocably intertwined that I can&#039;t figure out which is the tail and which is the dog and which is wagging which.

 

Note: The first three paragraphs were taken from “Empire of the City” by Edwin C. Knuth. The first two chapters can be found at the site below. Unfortunately, Ismael, the name used by the man who sat in the Toronto library for 3 years rendering books to e-text, apparently got no further.

 

http://inquiringminds.cc/yamaguchy_mirror/www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/knuth/empcity.htm

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RobertoBenitez (continued from above)</p>
<p>We have taken on the role of “World Policeman” in accord with the wishes of British Imperialist Cecil Rhodes, and continue to destroy any regimes that do not kow-tow to international finance. Saddam, Gaddafi, and now the leaders of Iran refused to permit the bankers to reduce the people to serfdom. For that we engineered the murders of the first two and are preparing to bomb the third into the stone age.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve long held that our continued allegiance to Mutha England made a large part of the world our enemies and our alliance with Israel is taking care of the rest. In fact, England and Israel are so irrevocably intertwined that I can&#8217;t figure out which is the tail and which is the dog and which is wagging which.</p>
<p>Note: The first three paragraphs were taken from “Empire of the City” by Edwin C. Knuth. The first two chapters can be found at the site below. Unfortunately, Ismael, the name used by the man who sat in the Toronto library for 3 years rendering books to e-text, apparently got no further.</p>
<p><a href="http://inquiringminds.cc/yamaguchy_mirror/www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/knuth/empcity.htm" rel="nofollow">http://inquiringminds.cc/yamaguchy_mirror/www.yamaguchy.netfirms.com/7897401/knuth/empcity.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@RobertoBenitez Excellent points.  Thanks!  The paragraphs below, taken from Edwin C. Knuth&#039;s &quot;Empire of the City&quot; add additional background to Britain&#039;s role in world tyranny.  It&#039;s also interesting that in the mock rivalry between candidates Bush and Kerry, both are members of Skull &amp; Bones.

 

2 Of the opium War of 1840 Mr. William E. Gladstone said: &quot;I am not competent to judge how long this war may last ... but that I can say, that a war more unjust in its origin, a war more calculated in its progress to cover this country with disgrace, I do not know and I have not read of .&quot;

 

T&#039;ang Leang-Li describes in some detail the spider-web of exploitation woven about China by International Finance, and the traditional British policy of promptly attacking and eradicating any Chinese government indicating initiative and growing strength.

Few Americans realize that as late as 1932, Japan was engaged in subduing Manchuria as a British ally, with British support and protection, against the protests of the League of Nations, the United States and China.

 

Manchuria was awarded to Japan by the British international financial oligarchy for assuming the greater part of the fighting and the expense to overcome the Chinese Nationalist revolution of 1926-1927 under General Chiang Kai-shek against the domination of the British. It is of interest to note that every war listed as a &quot;Revolution,&quot; including the &quot;Boxer&quot; War, was a war against foreign imperialists holding the Chinese Government in bondage, a war against the bankers of the City and against the &quot;foreign devils.&quot;

(continued) 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RobertoBenitez Excellent points.  Thanks!  The paragraphs below, taken from Edwin C. Knuth&#8217;s &#8220;Empire of the City&#8221; add additional background to Britain&#8217;s role in world tyranny.  It&#8217;s also interesting that in the mock rivalry between candidates Bush and Kerry, both are members of Skull &amp; Bones.</p>
<p>2 Of the opium War of 1840 Mr. William E. Gladstone said: &#8220;I am not competent to judge how long this war may last &#8230; but that I can say, that a war more unjust in its origin, a war more calculated in its progress to cover this country with disgrace, I do not know and I have not read of .&#8221;</p>
<p>T&#8217;ang Leang-Li describes in some detail the spider-web of exploitation woven about China by International Finance, and the traditional British policy of promptly attacking and eradicating any Chinese government indicating initiative and growing strength.</p>
<p>Few Americans realize that as late as 1932, Japan was engaged in subduing Manchuria as a British ally, with British support and protection, against the protests of the League of Nations, the United States and China.</p>
<p>Manchuria was awarded to Japan by the British international financial oligarchy for assuming the greater part of the fighting and the expense to overcome the Chinese Nationalist revolution of 1926-1927 under General Chiang Kai-shek against the domination of the British. It is of interest to note that every war listed as a &#8220;Revolution,&#8221; including the &#8220;Boxer&#8221; War, was a war against foreign imperialists holding the Chinese Government in bondage, a war against the bankers of the City and against the &#8220;foreign devils.&#8221;</p>
<p>(continued) </p>
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		<title>By: RobertoBenitez</title>
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		<dc:creator>RobertoBenitez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 06:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[phreedomphan, here&#039;re some more interesting historical facts. The Opium Wars of the mid 1800s were due to Britain&#039;s attempt to balance its budget. So it imported opium from British India to China.

 

When the Chinese Emperor objected the British resorted to smuggling opium into China with the help of an American shipper by the name of Robert Bennett Forbes and John Murray Forbes. When the Chinese government objected, the Forbes helped start the Opium Wars to force China to accept opium and distribute it to its people. The Chinese have never forgotten that.

 

As a result, the Fprbes family became quite wealthy and powerful in America. By the way, brothers Robert Bennett Forbes and John Murray Forbes were ancestors of Sen. John Forbes Kerry, one of the richest members of the Senate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phreedomphan, here&#8217;re some more interesting historical facts. The Opium Wars of the mid 1800s were due to Britain&#8217;s attempt to balance its budget. So it imported opium from British India to China.</p>
<p>When the Chinese Emperor objected the British resorted to smuggling opium into China with the help of an American shipper by the name of Robert Bennett Forbes and John Murray Forbes. When the Chinese government objected, the Forbes helped start the Opium Wars to force China to accept opium and distribute it to its people. The Chinese have never forgotten that.</p>
<p>As a result, the Fprbes family became quite wealthy and powerful in America. By the way, brothers Robert Bennett Forbes and John Murray Forbes were ancestors of Sen. John Forbes Kerry, one of the richest members of the Senate.</p>
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		<title>By: phreedomphan</title>
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		<dc:creator>phreedomphan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 14:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@KathleenMoore Kathleen, I went first to your habeascorpuscanada site.  Hadn&#039;t been there for a long time.  When I clicked to enter I got a Webroot message telling me the site contained a security threat and recommended I shut down my browser immediately.  Is one of the gangsterments messing with your site, or is this Webroot trying to prove its worth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KathleenMoore Kathleen, I went first to your habeascorpuscanada site.  Hadn&#8217;t been there for a long time.  When I clicked to enter I got a Webroot message telling me the site contained a security threat and recommended I shut down my browser immediately.  Is one of the gangsterments messing with your site, or is this Webroot trying to prove its worth?</p>
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		<title>By: KathleenMoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>KathleenMoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ 

Wonderful article, really enjoyed it. Jealous of your trip to the Middle Temple! 

 

Have downloaded your article on the &quot;The Founders’ Hermeneutic: The Real Original Understanding of Original Intent&quot; and look forward to reading it.  In particular because I am working right now on a WordPress site discussing the 1865 Debates on Confederation, and a special 1951 Introduction by F. R. Scott in which he confirms that the Debates are judicial evidence. 

 

I think that supports your position on subjective intent to be taken from the words of the ratifiers. 

 

The 1865 Debates had most often, unfortunately, been left aside in Canadian constitutional interpretation due to the thankfully now-defunct &quot;English exclusionary rule&quot;.

 

My site&#039;s not finished yet, I have a ton of work to do, including the page on &quot;The Mischief Rule&quot;, but you might be curious to take a look at Scott&#039;s 1951 Introduction to the Index to the 1865 Debates. I&#039;ve posted it here:

 

&quot;F. R. Scott’s 1951 Introduction to the Debates of 1865&quot;

http://www.christmasdreamthemes.com/home/audentes/public_html/tccwm-wp/?page_id=53

 

(Pardon the Christmas name, I&#039;m economizing. Had to choose an  existing domain for my hosting, but all my sites are in here, including  this one, which will be under a domain in January, 2012.)

 

Kathleen Moore

HABEAS CORPUS CANADA

The Official Legal Challenge

To North American Union

www.habeascorpuscanada.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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<p>Wonderful article, really enjoyed it. Jealous of your trip to the Middle Temple! </p>
<p>Have downloaded your article on the &#8220;The Founders’ Hermeneutic: The Real Original Understanding of Original Intent&#8221; and look forward to reading it.  In particular because I am working right now on a WordPress site discussing the 1865 Debates on Confederation, and a special 1951 Introduction by F. R. Scott in which he confirms that the Debates are judicial evidence. </p>
<p>I think that supports your position on subjective intent to be taken from the words of the ratifiers. </p>
<p>The 1865 Debates had most often, unfortunately, been left aside in Canadian constitutional interpretation due to the thankfully now-defunct &#8220;English exclusionary rule&#8221;.</p>
<p>My site&#8217;s not finished yet, I have a ton of work to do, including the page on &#8220;The Mischief Rule&#8221;, but you might be curious to take a look at Scott&#8217;s 1951 Introduction to the Index to the 1865 Debates. I&#8217;ve posted it here:</p>
<p>&#8220;F. R. Scott’s 1951 Introduction to the Debates of 1865&#8243;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.christmasdreamthemes.com/home/audentes/public_html/tccwm-wp/?page_id=53" rel="nofollow">http://www.christmasdreamthemes.com/home/audentes/public_html/tccwm-wp/?page_id=53</a></p>
<p>(Pardon the Christmas name, I&#8217;m economizing. Had to choose an  existing domain for my hosting, but all my sites are in here, including  this one, which will be under a domain in January, 2012.)</p>
<p>Kathleen Moore</p>
<p>HABEAS CORPUS CANADA</p>
<p>The Official Legal Challenge</p>
<p>To North American Union</p>
<p><a href="http://www.habeascorpuscanada.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.habeascorpuscanada.com</a></p>
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