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	<title>Comments on: The folly of one-size-fits-all education</title>
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		<title>By: Wondering Woman</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/07/31/the-folly-of-one-size-fits-all-education/comment-page-1/#comment-703824</link>
		<dc:creator>Wondering Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 03:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is amazing what some school principals and teachers do to meet those federal guidelines. A classic example in my little area of planet earth,  a young boy who was at the front of his class the year before was assigned to the  &quot;slow learning group&quot; shortly after school started in the fall.   Former teacher intervened and got him out of the slow learners.  One year later, and now in the 7th grade he volun-teered to take the ACT (college entrance exam) and placed in the top 15% of all taking it. 
 
Such shenanigans might make it look like this school is doing wonders, but one wonders what it does psychologically to the child who was given the dishonor of being  their &quot;designated dummy&quot; without his knowledge or consent.  From my viewpoint it looks more like a bad case &quot;of egg on the face&quot; of all the 
adults involved in such decisions.  Why?  Because studies have been done where teacher&#039;s were told that under achieving students were excellent students, earning top grades and having high IQ&#039;s and those students lived up to the teacher&#039;s expectations.  Apparently some studies done where teachers 
were told that high achievement students were slow learners, and the results were the same, the student lived up to the teacher&#039;s expectation.  One wonders if  they somehow checked to make sure that the teachers weren&#039;t  &quot;cooking&quot; grades in both studies. 
 
Happy ending to this classic example is that the this bright fellow thoroughly enjoyed spending a week 
of his summer vacation in college with others like him who scored in the top l5% on the ACT. 
 
 
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing what some school principals and teachers do to meet those federal guidelines. A classic example in my little area of planet earth,  a young boy who was at the front of his class the year before was assigned to the  &quot;slow learning group&quot; shortly after school started in the fall.   Former teacher intervened and got him out of the slow learners.  One year later, and now in the 7th grade he volun-teered to take the ACT (college entrance exam) and placed in the top 15% of all taking it. </p>
<p>Such shenanigans might make it look like this school is doing wonders, but one wonders what it does psychologically to the child who was given the dishonor of being  their &quot;designated dummy&quot; without his knowledge or consent.  From my viewpoint it looks more like a bad case &quot;of egg on the face&quot; of all the<br />
adults involved in such decisions.  Why?  Because studies have been done where teacher&#039;s were told that under achieving students were excellent students, earning top grades and having high IQ&#039;s and those students lived up to the teacher&#039;s expectations.  Apparently some studies done where teachers<br />
were told that high achievement students were slow learners, and the results were the same, the student lived up to the teacher&#039;s expectation.  One wonders if  they somehow checked to make sure that the teachers weren&#039;t  &quot;cooking&quot; grades in both studies. </p>
<p>Happy ending to this classic example is that the this bright fellow thoroughly enjoyed spending a week<br />
of his summer vacation in college with others like him who scored in the top l5% on the ACT. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Maharrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Maharrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. But I found it interesting that the feds only provide about 12 percent of the education funding in Montana. I gauran-damn-tee you I could cut 12 percent out of that states education budget without touching any actual education functions.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. But I found it interesting that the feds only provide about 12 percent of the education funding in Montana. I gauran-damn-tee you I could cut 12 percent out of that states education budget without touching any actual education functions.  </p>
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		<title>By: s0beitelg0t</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/07/31/the-folly-of-one-size-fits-all-education/comment-page-1/#comment-701835</link>
		<dc:creator>s0beitelg0t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem is as it seems to me, that people do it for the federal funding. You see it all the time, schools applying for more funding and trying to qualify for more funding. For example my city recently was worried that not enough people were filling out the census forms - because it would effect federal funding for schools. 
 
There&#039;s federal funding programs for all sorts of horrible things that people don&#039;t necessarily like, it&#039;s a dangerous incentive situation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is as it seems to me, that people do it for the federal funding. You see it all the time, schools applying for more funding and trying to qualify for more funding. For example my city recently was worried that not enough people were filling out the census forms &#8211; because it would effect federal funding for schools. </p>
<p>There&#039;s federal funding programs for all sorts of horrible things that people don&#039;t necessarily like, it&#039;s a dangerous incentive situation. </p>
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		<title>By: Philosopherking</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/07/31/the-folly-of-one-size-fits-all-education/comment-page-1/#comment-701823</link>
		<dc:creator>Philosopherking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m surprised that the social conservatives haven&#039;t picked up on this and realized that private education would mean they wouldn&#039;t have to deal with state rules.  If they want to pray in school then they can.  No government agency to deal with.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m surprised that the social conservatives haven&#039;t picked up on this and realized that private education would mean they wouldn&#039;t have to deal with state rules.  If they want to pray in school then they can.  No government agency to deal with.    </p>
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		<title>By: Philosopherking</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2011/07/31/the-folly-of-one-size-fits-all-education/comment-page-1/#comment-701816</link>
		<dc:creator>Philosopherking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Come to think of it, perhaps all of the Ph.D.s in education have something to do with the problem.&quot; 
 
LOL 
 
Anyways, I think federal education should be the easiest to nullify since it depends on a contractual relationship between the state and the federal government (so does the rest of the constitution but that is another issue for another time).  Just stop accepting the money and the states would be free.    
 
Also, why can&#039;t education be a completely local thing to begin with.  Cities--not states--not the federal government should decide the education standards of their schools.  I feel this would make it easier for parents to get involved since they would know they are only dealing with people in their own communities and not the entire population of the nation.    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Come to think of it, perhaps all of the Ph.D.s in education have something to do with the problem.&quot; </p>
<p>LOL </p>
<p>Anyways, I think federal education should be the easiest to nullify since it depends on a contractual relationship between the state and the federal government (so does the rest of the constitution but that is another issue for another time).  Just stop accepting the money and the states would be free.    </p>
<p>Also, why can&#039;t education be a completely local thing to begin with.  Cities&#8211;not states&#8211;not the federal government should decide the education standards of their schools.  I feel this would make it easier for parents to get involved since they would know they are only dealing with people in their own communities and not the entire population of the nation.    </p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hopely</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Hopely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has 50 years of federal intervention in education made our high school and college graduates the most employable workers on the globe?  Has the last 35 years with a cabinet position for the Dept of Education produced graduates that the world seeks?  Answer to both is no.  1959 National Defense Education Act sought to establish a scientific and engineering edge over the Soviets in response to Sputnk&#039;s launch.  Our high schools only produce fodder for our colleges and our colleges produce vast quantities of social science and humanities grads.  Employers of newly built production plants can&#039;t find technically schooled workers.  Meanwhile the government scandalizes only the student loans and grants used by for-profit technical schools.  Clearly if our public schools and colleges did their job, those schools wouldnot be able to compete with their tax subsidized enterprises. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has 50 years of federal intervention in education made our high school and college graduates the most employable workers on the globe?  Has the last 35 years with a cabinet position for the Dept of Education produced graduates that the world seeks?  Answer to both is no.  1959 National Defense Education Act sought to establish a scientific and engineering edge over the Soviets in response to Sputnk&#039;s launch.  Our high schools only produce fodder for our colleges and our colleges produce vast quantities of social science and humanities grads.  Employers of newly built production plants can&#039;t find technically schooled workers.  Meanwhile the government scandalizes only the student loans and grants used by for-profit technical schools.  Clearly if our public schools and colleges did their job, those schools wouldnot be able to compete with their tax subsidized enterprises. </p>
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		<title>By: Week in Review &#171; Craig W. Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>Week in Review &#171; Craig W. Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: s0beitelg0t</title>
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		<dc:creator>s0beitelg0t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coming from somebody who was educated in a public school and not at all religious - Amen. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming from somebody who was educated in a public school and not at all religious &#8211; Amen. </p>
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