A Tavern in 1791

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Editor’s note: Barack Obama and other supporters of unlimited federal power would like us to believe that we can’t uncover the Constitution’s original meaning. In essence, they’re telling us that we don’t have a Constitution at all. Rob Natelson’s new book, The Original Constitution, shows us that such a view is little more than….a crock.

The following is the book’s preface, reprinted here with permission from the author. Audio version read by Jeff Riggenbach.

The Original Constitution

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It is Thursday, December 22, 1791. You live in Philadelphia, currently serving as the temporary capital of the newly-created United States of America. It has been only fifteen years since Independence was declared, and less than three years since the federal government began functioning under the United States Constitution.

For a long time, it had been touch-and-go as to whether the Constitution would be ratified at all. Two states initially refused to agree, and of the remainder five had approved the document only after the Constitution’s supporters and moderate opponents had cut a political deal calling for a Bill of Rights. As soon as the new Congress met, two of the most important states, Virginia and New York, petitioned for a new convention to re-write the Constitution. Only after Congress had approved the Bill of Rights did Virginia and New York abandon their petitions and only then did the last two hold-outs, North Carolina and Rhode Island, join the union. The fourteenth state, Vermont, came in at the beginning of 1791.

Earlier on this day, you learned that the Bill of Rights had finally been ratified on December 15. So now, you reflect, the union is reasonably secure, evening is approaching, and your work day is done—and you are on a Philadelphia street corner with nothing particular to do. The weather is chilly and blustery, but there is a cure for that: A warm punch in a cozy tavern.

You enter the tavern and look around for a seat. The place is nearly full. But there is bench space at a long wooden table at one side of the room. Sitting around the table are men you recognize— eminently respectable men— some of Philadelphia’s leading judges and lawyers. They are deep in debate about an abstruse point of real property law. Not being a lawyer yourself, you do not think of that sort of discussion as the key to a good time. But there are no other seats.

You slip into the empty chair and order your punch while the discussion swirls around your head. Eventually, you decide to turn the conversation elsewhere. You give a little cough.

The lawyers had barely noticed you, but now turn they their heads and break off the debate. “I regret that I feel unqualified to comment on your subject,” you say. “But, gentlemen, you know I am not a lawyer. May I suggest another topic?”

They seem interested. The prior discussion had been wearing thin anyway. “You no doubt have observed,” you continue, “that ten new constitutional amendments were proclaimed last week.”

“Yes,” responds one of your listeners. (You know him as a distinguished judge.) “They should work some change upon the system.”

“That is exactly what I wished to pursue,” you add. “What is that system? And what change does the Bill of Rights effect upon it?”

The lawyers look at each other. One of them—he is particularly known as an expert in wills and fiduciary trusts—smiles. “Well, my good man, that is an expansive inquiry whose response might consume some time. Are you otherwise engaged for the next few hours? ” The others laugh.

But you press your question. It is only seven o’clock, your spouse has gone to Carlyle to visit relatives and you are not “otherwise engaged.” Neither are you particularly eager to leave the warm tavern.

“I am at complete leisure,” you respond. “Please, say on.”

The lawyers glance at each other. “Well, why not?” asks one. “As it happens, we are not engaged either. The courts are closed tomorrow, and our wives are enjoying the comfort of each other’s society. I dare say they have no present need of us!” More laughter.

“I think I can speak for my learned colleagues here,” the trust attorney interjects, “when I tell you that there is no topic on which we would rather discourse that our new Constitution. We have exchanged views on this subject before, and we differ on the small points. But I flatter myself that we are in accord on the great ones.”

You are a bit amused at how easy it is to induce lawyers to talk. You draw deep from the warm punch, and sit back, and listen . . .

What would those lawyers tell you that evening? What would have been their understanding of the scope of the new federal government and its powers? What would they relate of the role of the states or of the people? What, in other words, was the actual legal force of our Constitution as lawyers and intelligent lay persons understood it in 1791?

This book answers those questions. The answers were important in 1791, but they are especially important today, when our federal government seems to have wandered so far from its roots. Those answers are deemed relevant to constitutional interpretation by almost everyone, and many people believe them dispositive. That is, many Americans—lawyers and non-lawyers alike—believe the Constitution’s original understanding should govern us today.

To be sure, some people—including the former law instructor who now serves as President of the United States—believe that it is impossible to reconstruct the Constitution’s original meaning. As this book demonstrates, that view is substantially incorrect. Competent Founding-Era scholars largely agree on what most of the original Constitution’s provisions mean. Much of the disagreement among constitutional writers results from unfamiliarity with the historical record or with eighteenth-century law. We will never be absolutely certain of the complete meaning of every constitutional clause. But we can reconstruct most of the original Constitution’s meaning with clarity and confidence.

The Structure and Approach of this Book

Our lawyer friends in the Philadelphia tavern probably would not explain the Constitution clause-by-clause, since it would be more efficient to approach the subject by general topic. That is the approach in this book. We shall begin by surveying some history and values shared by the Founding Generation—material you would not have had to ask about in 1791, but might not know today. Then the chapters proceed theme by theme. For example, one chapter examines the role of the states in the federal system. Another treats all of Congress’ enumerated (listed) powers, no matter where in the Constitution they appear. Still another discusses the executive branch. Because this book speaks of the Constitution as it stood in late 1791, it generally uses the past tense. This keeps the work internally consistent, and reminds you that the content does not necessarily reflect constitutional law as the courts apply it today.

Footnotes and Bibliography

Most of the conclusions in this book are based on the densely-referenced studies listed in the chapter-by-chapter bibliography. Others are based on new research. In general, I have limited footnotes to four functions: providing cross-references to other parts of the book; providing references to the part of the Constitution then under discussion; citing material not found in the studies listed in the bibliography; and, in a few cases, commenting on modern constitutional issues related to the text.

Framers, Ratifiers, Federalists, Anti-Federalists, and Founders—the Words Defined

This book refers frequently to the views, goals, methods, and comments of the people who wrote, debated, and adopted the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The Framers were the fifty-five men who drafted the Constitution at the federal convention in Philadelphia, between May 29 and September 17, 1787. The Ratifiers were the 1,648 delegates at the thirteen state ratifying conventions meeting from late 1787 through May 29, 1790.

The Federalists were participants in the public ratification debates who argued for adopting the Constitution. History has labeled (unfairly) their opponents as Anti-Federalists. The Founders comprised all who played significant roles in the constitutional process, whether they were Framers, Ratifiers, Federalists, or Anti-Federalists. Although the Framers and Ratifiers were all male, the Founders were not. Women such as Mercy Otis Warren, an important Anti-Federalist writer (and later a leading historian), helped to shape public opinion about the Constitution.

Also among the Founders were the members of the Confederation Congress (1781-89) and its leading officers, as well as the members of the initial session of the First Federal Congress (1789). That session drafted the Bill of Rights and debated and resolved several constitutional issues while North Carolina and Rhode Island were still weighing whether to join the union, and while Virginia and New York were petitioning for a convention to propose amendments.

Many Founders fit into more than one category. For example, James Madison and Alexander Hamilton were Framers, Ratifiers, leading Federalists. John Jay, who served the Confederation as Secretary for Foreign Affairs, did not attend the constitutional convention, so he was not a Framer. But he did serve as a delegate to the New York State ratifying convention, and he wrote some of the essays in The Federalist (or, as they are commonly called, The Federalist Papers) urging that the Constitution be approved. He was therefore a Ratifier and a Federalist as well as a Founder. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts actively participated in the federal convention, but publicly opposed the final result, so he was a Framer and an Anti-Federalist. He was not a Ratifier, but did go on to play a prominent role in the First Federal Congress. Like Gerry, George Mason was a Framer and an Anti-Federalist. He also was a delegate at the Virginia ratifying convention, and therefore a Ratifier.

In this book, the phrase Founding Generation means the entire involved populace—Framers, Ratifiers, Federalists, Anti-Federalists, Founders, and anyone else participating formally or informally in the great national debate over ratification.

Evidence for the Original Constitution

Lawyers, judges, and scholars seeking the Constitution’s original legal effect use certain “standard sources.” These sources include the text of the Constitution itself, the federal convention notes prepared by James Madison and other delegates, debates in the state ratifying conventions, The Federalist, and a few other documents, such as the Articles of Confederation and the early state constitutions.

The standard sources are of great value, but they are not sufficient. For example, the royal commissions and instructions to colonial governors helped shape the Founding-Era understanding of the executive power, but those sources are rarely referenced today. The Federalist exercised an important influence in the ratification debates, but lesser-known writings exercised more.

Another valuable source often overlooked is the law of the Founding-Era. Most of the leading Founders were lawyers and the general public was far more knowledgeable about law than it is today. The Constitution was, of course, a legal document written in a particular legal environment. So you need to know something of the 1787 law to fully understand the meaning of a legal document written in 1787. Sometimes a few pages from Bacon’s Abridgment or Jacob’s New Law-Dictionary can resolve decades of academic dispute.

For these reasons, lawyers, judges, and scholars have been paying more and more attention to evidence outside the standard sources. Herbert Storing’s The Complete Anti-Federalist was published in 1981. It is a collection of the long-neglected arguments against the Constitution. The Wisconsin Historical Society has been issuing its multi-volume Documentary History of the Ratification of the Constitution. The National Historical Publications and Records Commission and George Washington University have sponsored the Documentary History of the First Federal Congress. Dedicated people, such as Texas attorney Jon Roland (www.constitution.org) have posted on the Internet hundreds of documents previously accessible only in top academic libraries. The Gale Company’s Eighteenth Century Online database now makes available much of the Founders’ literary world, enabling you to find dozens, sometimes thousands, of word usages in a few seconds.

In writing this book, I have had the advantage of all those sources.

Rob Natelson is a recently-retired Professor of Law at the University of Montana and a leading constitutional scholar. He is co-author of a forthcoming book on the Necessary and Proper Clause to be published by Cambridge University Press. He is also the author of The Original Constitution: What it Actually Said and Meant, published by the Tenth Amendment Center. Professor Natelson is a Senior Fellow in Constitutional Jurisprudence at the Independence Institute.

About Rob Natelson

In private life, Rob Natelson is a long-time conservative/free market activist, but professionally he is a constitutional scholar whose meticulous studies of the Constitution's original meaning have been published or cited by many top law journals. (See: www.constitution.i2i.org/about/.) Most recently, he co-authored The Origins of the Necessary and Proper Clause (Cambridge University Press) and The Original Constitution (Tenth Amendment Center). After a quarter of a century as Professor of Law at the University of Montana, he recently retired to work full time at Colorado's Independence Institute.

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35 comments
Lisa Betty
Lisa Betty

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Jerry Silovich
Jerry Silovich

pres Obama dosnt like our constitution nor dose he like the 10 th admenment. he is suiiing the ststae of AZ since its making strrrong immigration law,strong work laws,and strong freedon of going to school

Tobler Law
Tobler Law

Thanks for the post - I'm glad someone is trying to make the public aware of this grievous attack on the American Constitution.

doojie23
doojie23

By the US constitution, all rights to bear arms is connected to militia duty, but this is far more revolutionary than just the right to personally own a firearm. It goes to Article 1, Section 8, where all arms for 2nd amendment use must be provided by the federal government! That goes with training, and allowing officers to represent each milita group from its home state.

No standing army for more than two years, which would mean that after two years any state can simply choose to stop supporting any war! Blackstone gave us "no standing armies" from common law, which pre-exists the constitution.

NHResident
NHResident

When they are at war, they are not "standing". Standing would be the troops in bases like Guam, Germany, etc.

Pepe LaGonda
Pepe LaGonda

They - the Insiders - have used a "crisis" or "emergency" claim, no matter how contrived, as a means to bring tyrannical measures of control, under the guise of 'protecting' their subjects, throughout history. See the "Hegelian Dialectic" [George F. Hegel, early 1800's German philosopher] about the parts of this method. Two of his notable students were Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx; but they bailed on Hegel because he was not absolutist enough! And they went on to publish the renowned Communist Manifesto (1848), then brought it to America [Workers of the World convention, 1871, in Philadelphia]. Each of those Ten Planks have somehow been implemented, to varying degrees, here in America, by our fellow Americans! 'Nuf said, for now.

doojie23
doojie23

With you all the way, Pepe. I noticed too, that the Constitution and "due process" becomes far more interesting if you simply read Blackstone. For example, common law says we don't have to pay taxes to "defend our country" if it violates our conscience, all such taxes or "aids" must be given by our selv4es or by our representatives. I notice the NC Constitutuion has this almost word for word.

Pepe LaGonda
Pepe LaGonda

Wow! Excellent discussion on Madison's Federalist #45, but you missed it on comments about 'traffic court'. For starters, take note of the red-white-blue American flag of Freedom
and the flag of your Union State - outside your Government buildings; then, take careful note of the 3 inch knotted gold fringe, attached to 3 sides of those "similar" flags, once inside your 'traffic court'. They denote an admiralty/military jurisdiction, completely foreign to our Constitutional common-law standing. We lose, because they know - the self-regulating private monopoly of liar lawyers, and their likes in the long black dresses, that you are guilty of "something", because you have been charged. It becomes a matter of how much $FRN's$ you will surrender to get done and out! I read a discussion about "Nisi-Prius" court procedures that helps explain this. We got here as a result of the "War and Emergency Powers" actions, foisted upon an unsuspecting America, by our governmental 'ruling class' at all levels, as part of the 3rd Period of Treason against our Constitution, beginning in 1933.

Jim McMullen
Jim McMullen

Just listening to the preface of this book gives me chills. A thought came to mind. Why is it that so many easterners just don't get it? It takes a man from the west to write what appears to be a great instructional book on our Constitution. Can hardly wait to get the book. And as Gail so tactfully put it...audio book please.

DerekSheriff
DerekSheriff

I'm pushing for the audio book too Jim! Glad to see people are interested. You might want to leave feedback on Amazon.com expressing your desire to see it produced.

DieHardPatriot
DieHardPatriot

I am in antipation of receiving the book and I too wish to hear it in audio (CD PLEASE) One other aspect concerning the U.S. Constitution is what has been referred to as "The missing 13th Amendment) Sources claim the original 13th amendment was illegally remove around the period of the Civil War. Now when you read the U.S. Constitution the 13th Amendment is about slavery. The original was about (TON) Title of Nobility, (referring to LAwyers) were forbidden to hold any public office state or federal office in government. Ever see a sign outside a lawyer's office or on a business card ending in (after his name) Esquire? That is a title of nobility! The US didn't have a bar associaton as it was a spin off of the BBA(British Bar Association) It appears that the founders were very aware of what damage that would result with a senate or house packed with lawyers. (continued)

DieHardPAtriot
DieHardPAtriot

As far as the missing 13th AMentment goes there are groups seeking a copy of the original U.S. Constitution. Many states had along with their states's constitution the Original U.S.Constitution. We need to locate one of these state's constitutions or ...going out on a long limb-a copy of The Original U.S. COnstitution. We have such a large segment of uniformed voters in this country that also fall for anything they hear without verifing it...they are too occupied with their obcessions and worrries to use their God given brains to research the facts like checking a candidates voting record...they are too busy! May GOD who was so prominent in our founders comments and thoughts save us from ourselves and heal our land and rid this once richly blessed country of the vermin whom are destroying it.

DieHardPatriot
DieHardPatriot

Take a look at today's makeup in congress whom are in the majority...LAWYERS and thus my friends we know why we are in such a crisis...and oh yes I might add the people are at fault as well. George Washington warned the people that they needed to keep their eyes on the parties and went on to further explain what would happen in his Farewell Address...well what he further explained in that address happened and now we find ourselves in a lame duck session of congress shoving bills galore down our throats. (continued)

DerekSheriff
DerekSheriff

Everyone should read and understand the Constitution. It's written in English, not Sanskrit on Esperanto. However, it's not written in 21st century English. It's written in 18th century legalese and words like "regulate" and phrases like "general welfare" didn't mean to the framers and ratifiers what they mean to most English speakers today. So I think this book is very helpful in that it explores the ORIGINAL meaning of the Constitution's legal language. If you read the Constitution with the aid of a modern dictionary, you are going to be confused by some parts. But if you read it with the help of an 18th century law dictionary and the guidance of someone like this book's author, you are far less likely to be mislead by those who want to invent novel interpretations. We don't need to become intellectuals to understand it, but we should be anti-intellectual either. The founding generation understood common law and many of us today have to take the time to draw a little deeper from that well.

TextualistDude
TextualistDude

For those interested in reading the Constitution without benefit of a law degree, consider reading "Secure the Blessings of Liberty" by Robert Jones and available at amazon. Here's a 5 star review from amazon that makes the essential point: You don't need a law degree to read and understand the Constitution:

"Robert Jones makes a convincing case that you and I can read and understand the United States Constitution. We do not need a law degree, nor do we need the opinions of nine lawyers in black robes. The founders wrote this document to be understood by the people. If they could not understand it, how could they possibly hope to use it to limit the power of the federal government? Mr. Jones goes further to tell us that it is the duty of citizens to read and understand the Constitution so that we can protect our liberty by restraining the federal government to those powers granted to it, and ONLY to those powers so granted. This is not a textbook. It is an easy read that puts early American history in its proper context and that treats the reader to some interesting and amusing anecdotes. "

TextualistDude
TextualistDude

I don't believe a law dictionary is necessary to read and understand the US Constitution. I've studied the US Constitution since starting law school (on my own time, since it's not studied in law school!) and find no need to refer to Black's. Madison, the primary author, was not a lawyer. It does NOT read like a contract written by a Phila. Lawyer. For example, you don't see phrases like "party of the first part" or almost comical phrases such as, "The masculine shall include the feminine, the singular shall include the plural, and the present tense shall include the past and future tenses."

There are a few words that have changed in common usage from the 1780's (such as 'regulate' and 'militia') but they are generally not 'legal terms' that require a JD to fathom. These terms can be easily understood by reference to the context and a REGULAR dictionary from the 1780's such as Samuel Johnson's "A Dictionary of the English Language" which is online at:
http://www.archive.org/details/dictionaryofengl01...

Please keep in mind that law schools didn't exist in the 1780's. Those of us who have gone to law school and practiced law are tempted to make this much more complex than it really is, perhaps in order to justify our existence to the 'laypeople' we charge at the rate of $200 per hour.

Consider Ron Paul, for example, who has a better understanding of the US Constitution than anyone I've ever heard speak and he's a medical doctor! A knowledge of English, a knowledge of history and a desire to learn are all that's needed. Let's not try to limit access to this most important document by pretending that only members of an elite group can fully understand it.

Doug
Doug

There is no constitution for the USA. www.edrivera.com

asdf
asdf

It seems that all you you need is a constitution with "footnotes", to explain potentially obscure, archaic language elements; just like the shakeaspear texts from school.

Does this sort of thing exist? I'm not from the USA.

DerekSheriff
DerekSheriff

Maybe not a Constitution with footnotes, but if you listen to and/or read the preface, Prof. Natelson mentions some very good online resources that can help you in the same way.

doojie23
doojie23

Sounds good to me, since Madison wrote in "Federalist 45" that all power concerning lives, liberties, and properties of the people was reserved to the states.

Before the 14th amendment, that would mean that no person could be deprived of life, liberty, or propertty, unless the state ruled on it according to due process.

IOW, the Supreme Court had no authority over due process, since life, liberty, and property was reserved to the states.

As St George Tucker also wrote, the federal govt had no authority over common law, and due process is defined as common law!

This would mean that any decision the Supremes make regarding due process is outside their authority!

The 14th doesn't change this. It merely keeps the states from doing what it already kept the feds from doing, which means that ALL matters of due process belong only to the people of each state!

Wallbanger
Wallbanger

Our military, law enforcement, and ELECTED OFFICIALS need to HONOR THEIR OATH TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION!!!

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Ruth Ann Wilson
Ruth Ann Wilson

Mr. Hampton,
A interesting synopsis.

Much talk about the "TEA PARTIES", who are these people, what do they want, mystery and intrigue!!!!!!

I had to give an answer about "the Tea Party" and your summation is exactly what I said:
"Let the People enforce the Oath of Office on all of them, Federal, State, and Local!"
That is the "Tie that Binds" in the Tea Party Movement.

If people would read the Constitution (and I believe they are reading the Constitution, now) the boundaries are very simple. Our "wrath"(we, the people) has to do with the "violations" of these simple boundaries that Elected folks are swore before Almighty God, "to uphold and defend."

By the way, taverns in the days of the Revolutionary War Times, were NOT "beer joints", they were public meeting places, similiar, and for lack of a better example, like the "Barber shop", today. If you want to know what is going on in your "locale", go to the "Barber shop" on Saturday morning. You will be "informed" by the time, you leave.

For God & Country
Ruth Ann Wilson

Allan Hampton
Allan Hampton

Thank you - I hope Members of Tea Parties will remember in November.

Constitutional fact is the ballot box is the only constitutional force the people have over government Officials.

Allan Hampton
Allan Hampton

What difference does it make who said what when about the Constitution? According to Article V no one, absolutely no one, can amend or change what is written in the Constitution; three fourths of the State's Legislatures in agreement with every period (. dot - I's dotted and T's crossed) in a proposed Amendment can "add" that Amendment to the Constitution.
Let the Lawyers argue "legislation" in a court; let Congressmen argue proposed Bills in the House of Congress; let Senators argue proposed Bills and proposed Treaties in the Senate. Let the President "enforce" the laws enacted by Congress. Let the People enforce the Oath of Office on all of them, Federal, State, and Local!
It matters not who said want in the People studying the Constitution, it matters what is written in the Constitution. The People do not need to study who said what or legislation nor study Supreme Court decisions (unless they want to be a lawyer). Legislation and SC decisions are completely irrelevant, immaterial, and meaningless to the Constitution; reference Article V.
What the People need to study (an absolute necessity for the maintenance of the Constitution) and understand is Article I, Section 1, and Article I, Section 2, Article 8, Sections I to XVIII, Article V, and Article VI - last paragraph.
The maintenance of "individual" Liberty requires the "People" to study Amendment s 4, 5, 6 and 7 of the Bill of Rights.
Allan

TextualistDude
TextualistDude

Yes, thanks!! You nailed it here.

Those with training in the law (and I'm one of those with a law degree) want so badly to use their skills of torturing logic and semantics that they simply can't stand the plain language in the US Constitution and are desperate to add to it or modify it by referring to outside documents even when the language in the Constitution is plain and simple.

I COMPLETELY agree with your point and submit that those who want to 'intellectualize' the Constitution are leading us right back down the path to where we are today where the law is what the US Supreme Court has said it is rather than what the US Constitution says it is.

Again, thanks for speaking so plainly!!

doojie23
doojie23

My question on this would be in regard to traffic court. Since no person can be deprived of life, etc, without due process (common law), then any time a person walked into a courtroom, it must, by constitutional mandate, be a common law courtroom.

However, once matters convene in regard to due process of common law, neither state nor federal govt has a right to abridge the privileges or immunities established under due process.

This means that the person accused of a traffic violation would ONLY be subject to common law proceedings. Common law, however, says a person can't even be detained on the street except that the detainment is imprisonment. Any detainment, according to Blackstone, must be done ONLY by a warrant, and the 4th amendment says for probable cause under oath or affirmation.

Any law that stops people for a general cause would be a general warrant, which is ptrohibited by the 4th amendment. This woud make the state itself the accuser, but the state can't abridge common law. IOW, all traffic courts must have ttrial by jury.

doojie23
doojie23

I read some of Ralph's work. Good stuff. I would disagree on one point. UCC or Roman Civil law "Corpus juris civilis" cannot be applied once you walk into a courtroom, since both the 5th and 14th amendments state clearly that no person shall be deprived of life, etc, without due process, and due process is clearly defined as common law.

As both Brennan and Frankfurter have stated, ours is an accusatorial system, not inquisitorial. Since all states recognize the sovereignty of God, the presumption of innocence and the right to face an accuser must be maintained(Isaiah 54:17, Isaiah 50:8).

Any action outside of common law is unconstitutional. In North Carolina, under the seciton on 'courts", Magna Carta is quoted, giving clear authority to common law. Traffic copurt is administrative law, not comon law. Administrative law has no authority to deprive life, liberty, or property, according to the constitution.

doojie23
doojie23

I figured as much, wsince Justice Story points out that due process is due presentment or indictment. In th4e case of traffic court, it would be indictment by information, and the colonists were not keen on that or on admiralty courts, which denied trial by jury.

In common law, Blackstone writes of a "supplatory oath" provided by the accused when there is only one witness. I suspect this same principle is used in traffic court. Once you swear/affirm as the accused, you merely give permission to the judge to pas sentence.

But trafic court is administrative law, not due process or common law. Under the 14th amendment, deprivation of life, etc can only be considered under common law.

Rich
Rich

That's why they ASK if you plead guilty at the traffic court.

Allan Hampton
Allan Hampton

In today's unconstitutional government of the USA it is unhealthy to give legal advice or publicly answer leading questions. Muslims (?) may get you fired from your job, like Helen Thomas!

Ralph Winterrowd has amassed volumes of information about the courts and government Agencies which he shares on his radio show on RBN and via email.

If interested and can't find Ralph let me know - adhampton@suddenlink.net

Also my Yahoo discussion group is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citizen-power/

Gail Wiltse
Gail Wiltse

A book such as this should be required reading for ANY person who seeks public office. Don't know if that is possible in today's climate, but it certainly is desireable.

Gail Preset
Gail Preset

Is the whole book going to be available on audio? I really enjoyed reading along with the audio as it gives me a greater understanding. If the preface is this good, I can't wait to read the whole book.

MichaelBoldin
MichaelBoldin

Audio for the full book is definitely something we are exploring. We can't thank Jeff Riggenbach enough for doing the preface! Paperback will be out in the near future as well...

Porcupine Picayune
Porcupine Picayune

Not too disconnected - I hope...

Fraunces Tavern - where George Washington gave his Farewell Address - is still open for business in Lower Manhattan.

Even debates about the Yankees vs the Mets - Mets! - seem more patriotic in such a setting.

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