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		<title>By: Tenth Amendment center &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tenth Amendment center &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 15:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jackypond</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/29/when-commerce-is-not-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-317721</link>
		<dc:creator>jackypond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 07:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was go through your post It is really a  very nice one.To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. 18 The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was go through your post It is really a  very nice one.To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. 18 The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited.<br />
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		<title>By: Compost Bin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Compost Bin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nothing has changed. Farmers still get mistreat by the government and large agribusiness. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing has changed. Farmers still get mistreat by the government and large agribusiness. </p>
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		<title>By: frank scarn</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/29/when-commerce-is-not-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-317504</link>
		<dc:creator>frank scarn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 16:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The concept to which the article refers, everything in one way or another can be tied into interstate commerce, shows up in all kinds of places. The following article makes similar point in the area of the public schools, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.htm...&lt;/a&gt; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept to which the article refers, everything in one way or another can be tied into interstate commerce, shows up in all kinds of places. The following article makes similar point in the area of the public schools, <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/galvin5.1.1.htm</a>&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/29/when-commerce-is-not-commerce/comment-page-1/#comment-317424</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 16:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[like walter williams said in a recent article - are we seeing a constitutional awakening coming out of the economic and political crises of today?  I think so... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>like walter williams said in a recent article &#8211; are we seeing a constitutional awakening coming out of the economic and political crises of today?  I think so&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: B. Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 21:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that Wickard v. Filburn was at least the second agriculture-related case where justices â€œmissedâ€ their golden opportunity to reference Jefferson&#039;s expert clarification of the Commerce Clause.

â€œFor the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.â€ â€“Thomas Jefferson, Jeffersonâ€™s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp

With terms like â€œdoes not extendâ€ and â€œexclusively,â€ Jefferson made it clear that Congress has no authority to interfere with intrastate commerce.

To my knowledge, the first case that mentioned agriculture where justices had misplaced their Jefferson notes was US v. Butler.  But the Butler case at least mentioned the 10th Amendment in conjunction with agriculture.

â€œFrom the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. 18 The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden.â€ --United States v. Butler, 1936.

Butler was appropriately decided against Congress.

But based on what justices wrote about the 10th Amendment and agriculture in Butler, by the time that the USSC had decided Wickard, one might think that the states had ratified the Constitution with an amendment giving Congress the power to regulate agriculture.  But this was not the case.  What happened is the following, IMO.

When Butler was decided, FDR hadn&#039;t yet nominated any justices to the USSC.  So &quot;old guard,&quot; Constitution-respecting majority justices were still blocking Congress from trying to destroy the Constitution, particularly state sovereignty, with respect to FDR-inspired socialistic legislation.  But by the time Wickard was examined, four-term FDR had had the opportunity to nominate a pro-big federal government, outcome-driven USSC majority.  And judging by Jeffersonâ€™s clear explanation of the Commerce Clause which majority justices seemingly didnâ€™t want to touch, the mission of FDRâ€™s majority justices in Wickard was evidently to destroy state sovereignty in order to centralize government power.

In fact, comparing the Courtâ€™s clarification of the 10th A. in Butler with the pieces of the 10th A. in Wickard, FDRâ€™s corrupt justices were evidently in the process of sweeping the last traces of the 10th A. under the carpet when Wickard was decided.

&quot;In discussion and decision, the point of reference, instead of being what was &quot;necessary and proper&quot; to the exercise by Congress of its granted power, was often some concept of sovereignty thought to be implicit in the status of statehood.&quot; --Justice Jackson(?), Wickard v. Filburn, 1942. http://supreme.justia.com/us/317/111/case.html

So by the time that Wickard was decided, FDRâ€™s puppet justices had reduced 10th A. protected state sovereignty to a wivesâ€™ tale, IMO.

The bottom line is that the corrupt USSC was helping corrupt Congress to bypass Article V in order to unconstitutionally create new powers for itself, IMO.   After all, given that there is no mention of Article V in Butler or Wickard, Article V was seemingly lost in the same pile of papers containing Jeffersonâ€™s writings about the Commerce Clause.

So will somebody please remind me what the USSC is supposed to do for a living?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that Wickard v. Filburn was at least the second agriculture-related case where justices â€œmissedâ€ their golden opportunity to reference Jefferson&#8217;s expert clarification of the Commerce Clause.</p>
<p>â€œFor the power given to Congress by the Constitution does not extend to the internal regulation of the commerce of a State, (that is to say of the commerce between citizen and citizen,) which remain exclusively with its own legislature; but to its external commerce only, that is to say, its commerce with another State, or with foreign nations, or with the Indian tribes.â€ â€“Thomas Jefferson, Jeffersonâ€™s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791. <a href="http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp" rel="nofollow">http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp</a></p>
<p>With terms like â€œdoes not extendâ€ and â€œexclusively,â€ Jefferson made it clear that Congress has no authority to interfere with intrastate commerce.</p>
<p>To my knowledge, the first case that mentioned agriculture where justices had misplaced their Jefferson notes was US v. Butler.  But the Butler case at least mentioned the 10th Amendment in conjunction with agriculture.</p>
<p>â€œFrom the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. 18 The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited. None to regulate agricultural production is given, and therefore legislation by Congress for that purpose is forbidden.â€ &#8211;United States v. Butler, 1936.</p>
<p>Butler was appropriately decided against Congress.</p>
<p>But based on what justices wrote about the 10th Amendment and agriculture in Butler, by the time that the USSC had decided Wickard, one might think that the states had ratified the Constitution with an amendment giving Congress the power to regulate agriculture.  But this was not the case.  What happened is the following, IMO.</p>
<p>When Butler was decided, FDR hadn&#8217;t yet nominated any justices to the USSC.  So &#8220;old guard,&#8221; Constitution-respecting majority justices were still blocking Congress from trying to destroy the Constitution, particularly state sovereignty, with respect to FDR-inspired socialistic legislation.  But by the time Wickard was examined, four-term FDR had had the opportunity to nominate a pro-big federal government, outcome-driven USSC majority.  And judging by Jeffersonâ€™s clear explanation of the Commerce Clause which majority justices seemingly didnâ€™t want to touch, the mission of FDRâ€™s majority justices in Wickard was evidently to destroy state sovereignty in order to centralize government power.</p>
<p>In fact, comparing the Courtâ€™s clarification of the 10th A. in Butler with the pieces of the 10th A. in Wickard, FDRâ€™s corrupt justices were evidently in the process of sweeping the last traces of the 10th A. under the carpet when Wickard was decided.</p>
<p>&#8220;In discussion and decision, the point of reference, instead of being what was &#8220;necessary and proper&#8221; to the exercise by Congress of its granted power, was often some concept of sovereignty thought to be implicit in the status of statehood.&#8221; &#8211;Justice Jackson(?), Wickard v. Filburn, 1942. <a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/317/111/case.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/317/111/case.html</a></p>
<p>So by the time that Wickard was decided, FDRâ€™s puppet justices had reduced 10th A. protected state sovereignty to a wivesâ€™ tale, IMO.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that the corrupt USSC was helping corrupt Congress to bypass Article V in order to unconstitutionally create new powers for itself, IMO.   After all, given that there is no mention of Article V in Butler or Wickard, Article V was seemingly lost in the same pile of papers containing Jeffersonâ€™s writings about the Commerce Clause.</p>
<p>So will somebody please remind me what the USSC is supposed to do for a living?</p>
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		<title>By: Tenth amendment center &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 18:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 15:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article!  It&#039;s very encouraging to see people taking these issues to the front lines in multiple venues.  Who knows, maybe one of these efforts will make a difference!  It&#039;s very hard to predict how this is going to get resolved.  There seem to be a lot of people who are starting to FINALLY understand that the original idea of LIMITED government was the best idea!  Once you get that fact, reading and understanding the Constitution is easy. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article!  It&#039;s very encouraging to see people taking these issues to the front lines in multiple venues.  Who knows, maybe one of these efforts will make a difference!  It&#039;s very hard to predict how this is going to get resolved.  There seem to be a lot of people who are starting to FINALLY understand that the original idea of LIMITED government was the best idea!  Once you get that fact, reading and understanding the Constitution is easy. </p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article, Steve!  While I don&#039;t hold much hope for the courts overturning their own expansions of federal power, it&#039;s good to see people stand up and demand an original view of the constitution in this country. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Steve!  While I don&#039;t hold much hope for the courts overturning their own expansions of federal power, it&#039;s good to see people stand up and demand an original view of the constitution in this country. </p>
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