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		<title>By: theunknownamerican</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-324082</link>
		<dc:creator>theunknownamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 01:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why not have a tenthamendment solution for charity.   Cut all welfare at the federal and state level and allow it to exist at the city level.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not have a tenthamendment solution for charity.   Cut all welfare at the federal and state level and allow it to exist at the city level.   </p>
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		<title>By: Terry Morris</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265416</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, my bol and I have had a couple of standoffs over the years.  In both cases he backed down.  One case involved a 16 year old brother of mine.  I simply insisted that to whip his *ss, he&#039;d first need to whip mine, which he didn&#039;t seem quite so eager to pursue.  Otherwise, I&#039;ve warned him from time to time on these occasions.  But like the people of the declaration, he seems deaf to the voice of justice and consanguinity.  But, oh well, I guess I haven&#039;t thoroughly made my point as yet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my bol and I have had a couple of standoffs over the years.  In both cases he backed down.  One case involved a 16 year old brother of mine.  I simply insisted that to whip his *ss, he&#8217;d first need to whip mine, which he didn&#8217;t seem quite so eager to pursue.  Otherwise, I&#8217;ve warned him from time to time on these occasions.  But like the people of the declaration, he seems deaf to the voice of justice and consanguinity.  But, oh well, I guess I haven&#8217;t thoroughly made my point as yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Morris</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265399</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Where has Mr. Paul been on this?

Well, I&#039;m no fan of Dr. Paul&#039;s brand of &#039;libertarianism,&#039; but he&#039;s been consistent &#039;on this&#039; as always.  And that consistency is laudable.  

My problems with Dr. Paul have more to do with his inability to distinguish between his libertarianism and ... everyone else&#039;s.  Whether he likes it or not, some people don&#039;t adhere to his worldview.  Period.  It doesn&#039;t matter whether his is the correct worldview or not.  The facts are the facts.  End of story.  My own opinion is that pure libertarians should start (with our assistance) their own, self-governing, independent society.  When we check in on them ten years down the road, that they&#039;ve dropped their libertarianism in large measure should not surprise us. ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where has Mr. Paul been on this?</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m no fan of Dr. Paul&#8217;s brand of &#8216;libertarianism,&#8217; but he&#8217;s been consistent &#8216;on this&#8217; as always.  And that consistency is laudable.  </p>
<p>My problems with Dr. Paul have more to do with his inability to distinguish between his libertarianism and &#8230; everyone else&#8217;s.  Whether he likes it or not, some people don&#8217;t adhere to his worldview.  Period.  It doesn&#8217;t matter whether his is the correct worldview or not.  The facts are the facts.  End of story.  My own opinion is that pure libertarians should start (with our assistance) their own, self-governing, independent society.  When we check in on them ten years down the road, that they&#8217;ve dropped their libertarianism in large measure should not surprise us. &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265347</link>
		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People of Our brother in laws caliber are not much of a threat, they lack the will to provide, and people who who lack the will, also lack the ability to be confrontational. Now the bigger issue may be dragging your sister out of that disaster. I have played the scenario out in my head over and over, and it always comes up as an ultimatum. &quot;either him, or your family. But he ain&#039;t coming along for this ride&quot;

This is a 52 year old man who has never held a job longer then a couple of months AT BEST.. His current &quot;career&quot; is telemarketing, selling  insurance.. he has been there since the beginning of June so he is almost ready for retirement. It is situations like this that make labor camps look appealing, if a perfectly healthy man of sound mind refuses to eek out a living, he should be either cut off from social programs, or volunteer for social programs..What sucks about this answer is I am totally against that kind of oppressive government.. But I am even more against the mentality of sucking off the hard working public in the way of free handouts without any  oversight...The next option would be banishment.. &quot;devils island&quot;.. give them a plot of land, and a some live stock and let them live or die on their own merits, review their progress annually for consideration back to society...My imagination sometimes runs wild...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People of Our brother in laws caliber are not much of a threat, they lack the will to provide, and people who who lack the will, also lack the ability to be confrontational. Now the bigger issue may be dragging your sister out of that disaster. I have played the scenario out in my head over and over, and it always comes up as an ultimatum. &#8220;either him, or your family. But he ain&#8217;t coming along for this ride&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a 52 year old man who has never held a job longer then a couple of months AT BEST.. His current &#8220;career&#8221; is telemarketing, selling  insurance.. he has been there since the beginning of June so he is almost ready for retirement. It is situations like this that make labor camps look appealing, if a perfectly healthy man of sound mind refuses to eek out a living, he should be either cut off from social programs, or volunteer for social programs..What sucks about this answer is I am totally against that kind of oppressive government.. But I am even more against the mentality of sucking off the hard working public in the way of free handouts without any  oversight&#8230;The next option would be banishment.. &#8220;devils island&#8221;.. give them a plot of land, and a some live stock and let them live or die on their own merits, review their progress annually for consideration back to society&#8230;My imagination sometimes runs wild&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Greenslade</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265261</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Greenslade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 06:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The so-called Welfare State was created by members of Congress, aided by the appointees in the federal judiciary, perverting the separation of powers between the States and their federal government and then violating the taxing and spending clause of the Constitution. Where has Mr. Paul been on this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The so-called Welfare State was created by members of Congress, aided by the appointees in the federal judiciary, perverting the separation of powers between the States and their federal government and then violating the taxing and spending clause of the Constitution. Where has Mr. Paul been on this?</p>
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		<title>By: Time to Repeal the Welfare State &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265108</link>
		<dc:creator>Time to Repeal the Welfare State &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 20:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Terry Morris</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265095</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry,

Uhh, I have a sister of the same caliber.  Believe me when I say that were it up to me he would, quite literally, be begging for my indulgence.  

Now, I try my best to operate within the law.  But if it comes down to protecting my own, he&#039;s going to come up on the short end of it, end of story.  I&#039;ve also transmistted this opinion to the local &#039;powers that be&#039; as both a warning and a commonsensical approach.  They have responded in a manner consistent with my view, i.e., the D.A. is going to take this and &#039;run with it.&#039;  She may not think it appropriate, but I personally will not allow him to murder her at his own discretion.  In other words, he&#039;ll go down first.  And I&#039;ll personally see to it.

Come get me.

If that&#039;s somehow considered advocating &quot;violence,&quot; then so be it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>Uhh, I have a sister of the same caliber.  Believe me when I say that were it up to me he would, quite literally, be begging for my indulgence.  </p>
<p>Now, I try my best to operate within the law.  But if it comes down to protecting my own, he&#8217;s going to come up on the short end of it, end of story.  I&#8217;ve also transmistted this opinion to the local &#8216;powers that be&#8217; as both a warning and a commonsensical approach.  They have responded in a manner consistent with my view, i.e., the D.A. is going to take this and &#8216;run with it.&#8217;  She may not think it appropriate, but I personally will not allow him to murder her at his own discretion.  In other words, he&#8217;ll go down first.  And I&#8217;ll personally see to it.</p>
<p>Come get me.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s somehow considered advocating &#8220;violence,&#8221; then so be it.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265073</link>
		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 16:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an older sister and brother in law that are old hands at taking advantage of help from every single source they can find, including their church, family members and friends, they have gone as far as sending out emails to everyone in their address book requesting money, everything from asking for money to their car fixed, to asking for money to make their house payment, these are not loans but handouts, and It  never ends..The problem has less to do with being needy then it is of money management, and living within ones means..
I say this because I also know people who live on 12,000 a year, although they could certainly use the help, they also understand that they have no means to pay it back.

I would venture to say that the majority of people who fall into the category of &quot;Need&quot; are of the same caliber of my Sister and her winner of a husband.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an older sister and brother in law that are old hands at taking advantage of help from every single source they can find, including their church, family members and friends, they have gone as far as sending out emails to everyone in their address book requesting money, everything from asking for money to their car fixed, to asking for money to make their house payment, these are not loans but handouts, and It  never ends..The problem has less to do with being needy then it is of money management, and living within ones means..<br />
I say this because I also know people who live on 12,000 a year, although they could certainly use the help, they also understand that they have no means to pay it back.</p>
<p>I would venture to say that the majority of people who fall into the category of &#8220;Need&#8221; are of the same caliber of my Sister and her winner of a husband.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Morris</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/09/time-to-repeal-the-welfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-265052</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 12:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Big Brother?  No.

I&#039;m not talking about a panel assigned by a government agency or whatever.  As I said above, I&#039;d first put an end to ALL government &quot;charity,&quot; and turn the job over to private charitable organizations where it should have been left to begin with.  The &#039;panel&#039; (or &#039;board&#039; or whatever you want to call it) would be formed of members thereof.  Since they would be residents of the same towns and districts and neighborhoods as the aforementioned &#039;needy,&#039; they would be wholly better equipped to determine between cases.  There would be &quot;government&quot; or &quot;governing&quot; involved, of course, but that&#039;s purely necessary to any functioning entity right down to the family and individual levels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Brother?  No.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about a panel assigned by a government agency or whatever.  As I said above, I&#8217;d first put an end to ALL government &#8220;charity,&#8221; and turn the job over to private charitable organizations where it should have been left to begin with.  The &#8216;panel&#8217; (or &#8216;board&#8217; or whatever you want to call it) would be formed of members thereof.  Since they would be residents of the same towns and districts and neighborhoods as the aforementioned &#8216;needy,&#8217; they would be wholly better equipped to determine between cases.  There would be &#8220;government&#8221; or &#8220;governing&#8221; involved, of course, but that&#8217;s purely necessary to any functioning entity right down to the family and individual levels.</p>
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		<title>By: 713</title>
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		<dc:creator>713</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Terry the welfare state does need serious help. But you statements about &quot;panel of his peers and neighbors&quot; is that not big brother in action. Or atleast opening that door? I doebile welfare should be limited to 6months. If you cant fix your life in 6 months your screwed anyway. As to the 6 month limit after accepted for welfare. If welfare is still needed put those individuals to work for chinese labor. These individuals will beg to get off of welfare. After recieving welfare benifits you no longer qualify for welfare for 5 years. Make welfare a brutal thing once introduced into a labor force. This could be considered harsh but the free loaders will leave. Anyone who can physically work will leave for better paing jobs. In the first few years this practice will be hard but the oppinion of welfare will change quickly after such policys are heard about. I do realise there is labor laws but lets face it. Following the law is not somehting that this govt has been known for now is it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry the welfare state does need serious help. But you statements about &#8220;panel of his peers and neighbors&#8221; is that not big brother in action. Or atleast opening that door? I doebile welfare should be limited to 6months. If you cant fix your life in 6 months your screwed anyway. As to the 6 month limit after accepted for welfare. If welfare is still needed put those individuals to work for chinese labor. These individuals will beg to get off of welfare. After recieving welfare benifits you no longer qualify for welfare for 5 years. Make welfare a brutal thing once introduced into a labor force. This could be considered harsh but the free loaders will leave. Anyone who can physically work will leave for better paing jobs. In the first few years this practice will be hard but the oppinion of welfare will change quickly after such policys are heard about. I do realise there is labor laws but lets face it. Following the law is not somehting that this govt has been known for now is it?</p>
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