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	<title>Comments on: The &#8220;50 Laboratories&#8221; Model for Health Care</title>
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		<title>By: monorprise</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-258001</link>
		<dc:creator>monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I seem to remember Medicare  and medicate trying this on a national level and them getting the same results, just as the institutions of the same programs and likewise insurance have instigated the medical cost explosion in the first place.

It is all perfectly logical and predictable  why you would have runaway cost when you removal all practical cost selection from the healthcare market.

We can therefore guarantee that Obama&#039;s healthcare plain will have exactly the same results as the practically identical plans already tried.  as Einstein said it is a mark of insanity to keep trying the same thing and expecting a different result, particularly when all market mechanic tell you why.

The only way they are going to reduce or control the price of healthcare is by reintroducing price selection which they along with insurance took out.

Unfortunately in a government controlled plain that price selection is not yours but theirs.  and thus the individual can only lose a most vital liberty from this.

The only thing a government plan introduces besides loss in individual liberty is the further usurpation of making you pay for the medical consequences of other people&#039;s choices.

Even if government run healthcare were constitutional, wise, and feasible. it still wouldn&#039;t  be ethical or consistent with a people that values their liberty.

I see no possible necessity to justify imposing the will of the majority to the exclusion of the rights of the minor(individual) in this regard.

The fact that health care is not in the constitution further means that we did not consent to the possibility of this usurpation making it tyranny.
 The US government does not have the right to impose this upon the people and if we are to respect the constitution we must nullify such actions due to their being beyond the scope of their legitimate (and thus respectable/enforceable) powers.  I see no other way to maintain the republic then to up hold it&#039;s constitution and not permit such usurpation.  That being said the united state government and thus it&#039;s constitution is not the agent of the people directly but rather the peoples states and thus it falls upon the state governments individual to uphold it&#039;s constitutional limitations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I seem to remember Medicare  and medicate trying this on a national level and them getting the same results, just as the institutions of the same programs and likewise insurance have instigated the medical cost explosion in the first place.</p>
<p>It is all perfectly logical and predictable  why you would have runaway cost when you removal all practical cost selection from the healthcare market.</p>
<p>We can therefore guarantee that Obama&#8217;s healthcare plain will have exactly the same results as the practically identical plans already tried.  as Einstein said it is a mark of insanity to keep trying the same thing and expecting a different result, particularly when all market mechanic tell you why.</p>
<p>The only way they are going to reduce or control the price of healthcare is by reintroducing price selection which they along with insurance took out.</p>
<p>Unfortunately in a government controlled plain that price selection is not yours but theirs.  and thus the individual can only lose a most vital liberty from this.</p>
<p>The only thing a government plan introduces besides loss in individual liberty is the further usurpation of making you pay for the medical consequences of other people&#8217;s choices.</p>
<p>Even if government run healthcare were constitutional, wise, and feasible. it still wouldn&#8217;t  be ethical or consistent with a people that values their liberty.</p>
<p>I see no possible necessity to justify imposing the will of the majority to the exclusion of the rights of the minor(individual) in this regard.</p>
<p>The fact that health care is not in the constitution further means that we did not consent to the possibility of this usurpation making it tyranny.<br />
 The US government does not have the right to impose this upon the people and if we are to respect the constitution we must nullify such actions due to their being beyond the scope of their legitimate (and thus respectable/enforceable) powers.  I see no other way to maintain the republic then to up hold it&#8217;s constitution and not permit such usurpation.  That being said the united state government and thus it&#8217;s constitution is not the agent of the people directly but rather the peoples states and thus it falls upon the state governments individual to uphold it&#8217;s constitutional limitations.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bernard</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257780</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bernard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>al, The author does not stae that as fact. He comments that #1 ans #2 are being &quot;espoused&quot; by the opposite sides of the debate. You should take your time and reread the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al, The author does not stae that as fact. He comments that #1 ans #2 are being &#8220;espoused&#8221; by the opposite sides of the debate. You should take your time and reread the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Matthews - Houston, TX</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257775</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Matthews - Houston, TX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT, but I just found this video showing that the Tea Parties are not an &quot;Astro Turf&quot; movement, as claimed by Krugmam.  Watch to see the reception given to Republican Congressman, Gresham Barrett, at the Greenville, SC Tea Party.

Gotta love it!  http://www.viddler.com/explore/PalmettoScoop/videos/10/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT, but I just found this video showing that the Tea Parties are not an &#8220;Astro Turf&#8221; movement, as claimed by Krugmam.  Watch to see the reception given to Republican Congressman, Gresham Barrett, at the Greenville, SC Tea Party.</p>
<p>Gotta love it!  <a href="http://www.viddler.com/explore/PalmettoScoop/videos/10/" rel="nofollow">http://www.viddler.com/explore/PalmettoScoop/videos/10/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257774</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 14:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right - quality has gone way down and cost way up in this country.   This has gotten worse each year since the government got involved in the health care business...the solution is to follow the constitution and get the federal government out of the industry.  If individual states want to provide socialized care like the individual states around the world do, that would be the prerogative of the people who live there.

one-size-fits all solutions are bad, not only because they create a constant state of divisiveness, but also because if you don&#039;t like the politicians who are in charge, you&#039;ll likely end up with just the opposite of what you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right &#8211; quality has gone way down and cost way up in this country.   This has gotten worse each year since the government got involved in the health care business&#8230;the solution is to follow the constitution and get the federal government out of the industry.  If individual states want to provide socialized care like the individual states around the world do, that would be the prerogative of the people who live there.</p>
<p>one-size-fits all solutions are bad, not only because they create a constant state of divisiveness, but also because if you don&#8217;t like the politicians who are in charge, you&#8217;ll likely end up with just the opposite of what you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257773</link>
		<dc:creator>Kit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not the 162 laboratories model in which you look at every other country and realize that they pay significantly less per capita than the US for health care, and receive much higher quality care. In terms of life expectancy, the US ranks 45th in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not the 162 laboratories model in which you look at every other country and realize that they pay significantly less per capita than the US for health care, and receive much higher quality care. In terms of life expectancy, the US ranks 45th in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying the Massachusetts model failed because of the inherent flaws in the plan is useless.  It took me all of 4 seconds to realize that the insurance providers simply rose rates in the state for everyone (malpractice insurance included) to try to stamp out the plan, or show the experiment as a massive failure.  How could they do this, you ask?  Well, remember, they have 49 other states to support their companies while they sacrifice this one for the sake of their end goal.  Why would they do this?  Well, they know a &quot;nationwide plan&quot; would indeed work decently and probably cost them quite a bit of business.  

To think that you can write a multi-paragraph article without realizing this is sad, and says much about your ability.  

That is, unless you have some alterior motive... which I suspect you do since you only list what the insurance companies did (raised rates) rather than how the people of the state (the same people you pretend to look out for) actually benefited.  Here&#039;s a hint, *they received good healthcare from the state at a very decent price!*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying the Massachusetts model failed because of the inherent flaws in the plan is useless.  It took me all of 4 seconds to realize that the insurance providers simply rose rates in the state for everyone (malpractice insurance included) to try to stamp out the plan, or show the experiment as a massive failure.  How could they do this, you ask?  Well, remember, they have 49 other states to support their companies while they sacrifice this one for the sake of their end goal.  Why would they do this?  Well, they know a &#8220;nationwide plan&#8221; would indeed work decently and probably cost them quite a bit of business.  </p>
<p>To think that you can write a multi-paragraph article without realizing this is sad, and says much about your ability.  </p>
<p>That is, unless you have some alterior motive&#8230; which I suspect you do since you only list what the insurance companies did (raised rates) rather than how the people of the state (the same people you pretend to look out for) actually benefited.  Here&#8217;s a hint, *they received good healthcare from the state at a very decent price!*</p>
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		<title>By: al</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257771</link>
		<dc:creator>al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 09:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;1-# AGAINST - Health care costs will spiral upwards, quality of service will plummet, and the right of the individual to choose their method of care will be infringed.&quot;

Why you say this as it&#039;s a fact. You don&#039;t know what the outcome is so please don&#039;t say it as if it&#039;s a fact. The only fact is that the current system doesn&#039;t work good enough and in need of repair/ change/ overhaul. Offer suggestions to fix the problems but please don&#039;t state your opinion as a fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1-# AGAINST &#8211; Health care costs will spiral upwards, quality of service will plummet, and the right of the individual to choose their method of care will be infringed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why you say this as it&#8217;s a fact. You don&#8217;t know what the outcome is so please don&#8217;t say it as if it&#8217;s a fact. The only fact is that the current system doesn&#8217;t work good enough and in need of repair/ change/ overhaul. Offer suggestions to fix the problems but please don&#8217;t state your opinion as a fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By that I mean the so-called free health care that&#039;s being proposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By that I mean the so-called free health care that&#8217;s being proposed.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Kay</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/06/11/the-50-laboratories-model-for-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-257768</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 04:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only does the model fail, on a national level there&#039;s nothing constitutional about it1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only does the model fail, on a national level there&#8217;s nothing constitutional about it1</p>
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