Comments on: Faith-Based Socialism on Trial http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/ Concordia res Parvae Crescunt Wed, 16 May 2012 14:50:15 +0000 hourly 1 By: Cindy http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-35347 Cindy Sun, 30 Sep 2007 00:51:14 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/#comment-35347 I'm trying to find an article, think-piece, or case law that shows the unconstitutional nature of the Welfare state as it exists in the US today. While I believe that it is not a system that would be embraced by the Founders, as it exists today, I also run into roadblocks with the interpretation of "general welfare". Many believe that alms to the poor, and a minimal standard of living, benefit the general welfare of the nation and that supports the current "welfare system", as opposed to relying upon private charitable organizations. So, if many claim that the current welfare state is unconstitutional, what is the basis of the argument that it is unconstitutional. If it were to be called up before the Supreme Court, how would the unconstitutional nature of welfare laws ( as a system) be argued? The article I just read doesn't mention the argument, merely it calls welfare unconstitutional and unproductive. I'm debating this issue with a friend who supports larger welfare programs. I’m trying to find an article, think-piece, or case law that shows the unconstitutional nature of the Welfare state as it exists in the US today. While I believe that it is not a system that would be embraced by the Founders, as it exists today, I also run into roadblocks with the interpretation of “general welfare”. Many believe that alms to the poor, and a minimal standard of living, benefit the general welfare of the nation and that supports the current “welfare system”, as opposed to relying upon private charitable organizations. So, if many claim that the current welfare state is unconstitutional, what is the basis of the argument that it is unconstitutional. If it were to be called up before the Supreme Court, how would the unconstitutional nature of welfare laws ( as a system) be argued? The article I just read doesn’t mention the argument, merely it calls welfare unconstitutional and unproductive. I’m debating this issue with a friend who supports larger welfare programs.

]]> By: Tenth Amendment http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-474 Tenth Amendment Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:12:50 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/#comment-474 Margaret - thanks for the comment. We understand your frustration with the government quite well. This is just why the Tenth Amendment Center exists....working towards the goal of limiting government to its constitutionally mandated powers only. In line with "practicing what we preach" - we will never accept any type of government handout to expand our work. We will never approve or accept of anyone being forced to donate money to this, or any organization. But, to think that any political advocacy group can exist without funding is shortsighted, and somewhat foolish. People have the free choice of giving money to the Tenth Amendment Center, and we make no apologies for asking either. The issue remains, though - if YOU want a better life, you have to continue demanding that the government get out of your life. Then, and only then, will you have a better future... Margaret – thanks for the comment. We understand your frustration with the government quite well. This is just why the Tenth Amendment Center exists….working towards the goal of limiting government to its constitutionally mandated powers only.

In line with “practicing what we preach” – we will never accept any type of government handout to expand our work. We will never approve or accept of anyone being forced to donate money to this, or any organization.

But, to think that any political advocacy group can exist without funding is shortsighted, and somewhat foolish. People have the free choice of giving money to the Tenth Amendment Center, and we make no apologies for asking either.

The issue remains, though – if YOU want a better life, you have to continue demanding that the government get out of your life. Then, and only then, will you have a better future…

]]> By: Margaret http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-473 Margaret Fri, 09 Mar 2007 02:06:53 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2007/03/05/faith-based-socialism-on-trial/#comment-473 I think you should practice what you preach and quit asking for money at the end of every note. I get mail every day to donate to wildlife, to the National Forest, to a lot of other sources who are supposed to be independent. People used to sell newspapers and did honest work, but now they let the American Government support them. We knew everyone who was disabled, but they still worked, even in wheelchairs...the man who sold papers in front of the restaurant downtown, the little lady who sold pencils which we never took, but paid for anyway because she was blind. I give to people who really need it. We do not want socialism...believe me, I know. I lived in Europe for two years and they were given all that and taxed to the hilt. I think you should practice what you preach and quit asking for money at the end of every note. I get mail every day to donate to wildlife, to the National Forest, to a lot of other sources who are supposed to be independent. People used to sell newspapers and did honest work, but now they let the American Government support them. We knew everyone who was disabled, but they still worked, even in wheelchairs…the man who sold papers in front of the restaurant downtown, the little lady who sold pencils which we never took, but paid for anyway because she was blind. I give to people who really need it. We do not want socialism…believe me, I know. I lived in Europe for two years and they were given all that and taxed to the hilt.

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