Comments on: Stick to the Establishment Game? Forget it.

By: Edward R. Burgess for Liberty and Constitution

Edward R. Burgess for Liberty and Constitution — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 19:47:15 +0000

http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2012/12/04/stick-to-the-establishment-game-forget-it/

By: WilliamSchooler

WilliamSchooler — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 19:40:56 +0000

@robcam817
Nullification is a relevant activity in a Government by the people for the people which WE do not have. Igniting a revolution is an appropriate act to ignite. The confusion is that Revolution means war which it does not. It means a new beginnings Like living in independence versus in a world of Dominance.

The war is only created by the evil idiots who will use any reason to create one because Fear creation equals Dominance in our history. Whose fear is it really when you want to dominate and those dominated refuse or RESIST?

I like Mr. Woods but he is loosing my respect by his lack of action and his continual repeat of history rather than the lessons and how to apply these to today and make a difference. I am actually being threatened to be kicked off his site because I don’t see what is being spoken of the same as the General population of the site which is only proof he is resisting these truths. Most of these are Rothbard or Lew Rockwell studies who all agree to the theories. None of them have actually achieved any great results we can personally see, yet the agreement to ideas are overwhelming. This statement does not say that Lew Rockwell and Rothbard had nothing to add and what it does say is because of agreement and agreement alone regardless of what works or not.

My own recognition that this is what is actually causing our demise has been TOUGH to take and I am challenging ALL Life to respond and to discuss and put into view the correct pieces that makes all of this possible. People can ask (but what does he know) without asking by the way and never discover what I have learned in the last 5 years that will and can entirely change the world. But I assure you my time is very close because there is going to be a REALITY check here real soon and all of the sudden listening will not be an issue by those who are not panicking.

Thank you for recognizing the truth robcam and I hope more of you will come forward so WE can implement. But we must have discussion and we must have understanding for this to be possible.

The total lack of participation by all is proof and this proof needs to change to full participation.

Our enemy is simply using ACTS we are not with bad ideas, we are not using these ACTS with good ideas to their level so we are constantly pushed backwards. This truth can be ignored but the lessons will not stop until we learn and take charge.

And for all of you who think all ideas are brief, its false and no idea is the same in form, in size or any of this false made up crap so stop and learn to GET the message being passed along. You never know when the message that touches your heart is starring right at you until you actually look.

By: robcam817

robcam817 — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 16:12:38 +0000

William speaks the truth. Simple and pure. And while I too applaud the efforts of Mr. Woods and others, one might take a look at the response to this article posted on the WGL site. My personal belief: If nullification is ever attempted again, it will only be the catalyst which ignites a revolution.

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By: WilliamSchooler

WilliamSchooler — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 17:43:59 +0000

(It [nullification] is a state’s refusal to comply with a specific federal law, which that state considers to be unconstitutional, to the extent of breaking the federal compact (our federal Constitution, although not referred to here in the sense of legal “compact theory”), in the form specifically of the Supremacy Clause of our Constitution which states that the Constitution trumps all other laws, especially that of the individual states.)
So it is actually an action item, something people in a state do, correct?
I dont know if I would go blaming those in the WGL since I am sure most of them went to the same kinds of indoctrinations (education) we did. Then they took this literally as something they could actually decide with and agree to. This example could be shown the way you value Language as an exact science when in fact it is far from it. But because you spent years studying it, went into agreement with many others on such a subject you project some authority on the subject for which you are not (no disrespect intended). But this is what many in life have practiced a long time and has become an habitual way of practice or life. The act of assumption with no verification and certainly not an understanding that all real activities are lived activities.

(It is based on a theory originally proposed in the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798 and 1799 authored by Thomas Jefferson and the Virginia Resolutions of 1798 authored by James Madison and later cited and advanced by John C. Calhoun. The Resolutions were published ANONYMOUSLY for good reason – namely the possibility of the Resolutions being called treasonous and due to the government positions of Jefferson and Madison at the time of writing.)
Wasn’t it anonymous by their own habit of fear from those around them? Dare speak out and resist stupid agreements, how dare ye!

It is funny I feel like I am reading a quote of history word for word as written, I often wonder what Thomas Jefferson was personally feeling or Madison and others. Isn’t nullification an act of sovereignty? To be independent from those who wish to impose some other idea not agreed to by the independent? Do we first have to decide we are independent to live independently? The agreement being the union States of Independent living agreeing to certain limits defined in the Constitution assuring no choice would be made outside these limits? Is this the lived version or the quoted versions of quotes before us?
Since in our history and in our time at present we can see clearly Independence was NOT LIVED every single day and we can identify this by the lack of agreement to RESIST Federal Government through this act and through the act of Nullifying do we see the results entirely exposed as lived.
These are the alterations to our Constitution, the formation of a Federal Corporation, the inclusion of a Federal Reserve system, the advancement of Corporatism dressed up as capitalism which it is not. These are all the results of today’s causes are they not?

So answer this for me; where is this resistance? Through this act of nullification by what a few of you desperately working to achieve this idea in a Federal Corporation and not a Federal Government by the people? Is this a reaction or a true cause?
Is our Federal Government a Corporation? If so who then is their allegiance to? If by this agreement we resemble this statement how does this Constitution uphold this Corporate entity? What influence will Independent states not living independently resist through nullification if they are in agreement with the Corporation and their debt moneys so well received by complying?
Is it possible to reach an objective if we continually pretend something is not and then continuously lie to ourselves about it? What is this agreement?

See I agree with the act of Nullification and I choose to be independent by every choice I make which is living it. But what I disagree with is the lie and it is identified in this way. We consistently look at everything else and all others versus the actual lie. We refuse to answer these questions when asked. We do not focus our attention on our objectives and how these are all attached and connected.

This does not mean I think it is our fault although it is entirely, but what so many will refute is our habits, our indoctrination to assume and agree. Our emphasis on old history and old ideas in a new age for which we actually live. WE do not work to understand how these dip shits we are to resist keep making head way regardless of our actions.

Honesty is simply the act of living today and not yesterday which is long over, yet continuously is this activity of today. The persistence of this agreement (and that is all it is) persist why? Indoctrination or by choice?

Nullification is a significant action of resisting things we do not agree with and done so by agreement. Our Constitution in its original intent defines Liberty by the act of holding those in office to such limits and all these ideas support LIFE, to allow it, to be able to create as it, to be able to live out as it and this is today folks and not yesterday or you would not be here today reading this.

Until we find agreement not on old habits of indoctrination’s, until we resist those lying and agreeing to this Corporate structure, until we stop this agreement and resist the Corporation, the Federal Reserve system and all the crimes presently against us the beatings shall continue until we fully learn our lessons. These lessons were taught before in an act of deciding to be independent, this decision was then agreed upon by the many and the force of this agreement grew and displayed large examples of such an act. But so many took the idea of Revolution and attached war to it but on closer inspection Revolution simply means a new beginning. This is something we are looking to do is it not? Is this done by your choice and your agreement to clear terms of such an activity?

How much longer do we live the present lie? How well will our 10th amendment be applied without agreed upon independence as a way in which to live? When do we recognize the tyrants and the Oligarch is already in place? When do we decide to Resist? When all is gone or while we are still aware of ourselves and our own possibilities?

I love you Tom Woods but I resist the old concepts quoted in history not manifesting any results of enormous proportions because of such crimes we live today. You may hate my persistence to get you to recognize but old habits do die hard and persistence is the only act that defies old habits. Welcome to the here an now where all things take place.