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“There’s not much attention paid to the Constitution in Washington. There’s not much attention paid to it by our executive branch of government. And we don’t get much protection from our courts. So one thing that might finally happen from this if the people finally feel so frustrated that they can’t get the results out of Washington — They’re going to start thinking about options. They might start thinking about nullification and a few things like that.” – Rep. Ron Paul
NULLIFICATION?
For anyone unfamiliar with the concept of state nullification, it was the idea expressed by then sitting vice president Thomas Jefferson when he authored what came to be known as the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798. The resolutions made the case that the federal government is a creature of the states, and that states have the authority to judge the constitutionality of the federal government’s laws and decrees. He also argued that states should refuse to enforce laws which they deem unconstitutional.
James Madison wrote a similar resolution for Virginia that same year, in which he asserted that whenever the federal government exceeds its constitutional limits and begins to oppress the citizens of a state, that state’s legislature is “duty bound” to interpose its power and prevent the federal government from victimizing its people. Very similar to Jefferson’s concept of nullification, Madison’s doctrine of interposition differed in some small but important ways.
These two documents together came to be known as The Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions (or Resolves), of 1798. Both were written in response to the dreaded Alien and Sedition Acts, and the phrase, “Principles of ’98″ became shorthand for nullification and / or interposition. Over time, “The Principles of ’98″ would be invoked by many other states, many times for a variety of issues.
A LITTLE MORE
But in order to best-understand what Nullification IS, you should first understand some things nullification is NOT.
Nullification is not secession or insurrection, but neither is it unconditional or unlimited submission. Nullification is not something that requires any decision, statement or action from any branch of the federal government. Nullification is not the result of obtaining a favorable court ruling. Nullification is not the petitioning of the federal government to start doing or to stop doing anything. Nullification doesn’t depend on any federal law being repealed. Nullification does not require permission from any person or institution outside of one’s own state.
So just what IS nullification and how does it happen?
Nullification is any act or set of acts, which has as its end result, a particular federal law being rendered null and void, or just plain unenforceable in your area.
Nullification often begins with members of your state legislature declaring a federal act unconstitutional and then committing to resist its implementation. It usually involves a bill, passed by both houses and signed by your governor. In some cases, it might be approved by the voters of your state directly, in a referendum. It may change your state’s statutory law, or it might even amend your state constitution. In this case, it is quite simply a refusal on the part of your state government to cooperate with, or enforce a particular federal law it deems unconstitutional.
The same process can happen on a local level too. Your county board of commissioners or city council might take up a measure that rejects or resists a federal law. Once it gets passed, all local agencies might be required to refuse compliance with any federal agents trying to enforce the federal act in question.
In either case, Nullification carries with it the force of state or local law. It cannot be legally repealed by Congress without amending the U.S .Constitution. It cannot be lawfully abolished by an executive order. It cannot be overruled by the Supreme Court if the people in the state reject the Court’s opinion. It is the people of a state or local commnunity asserting their rights, acting as a political society in its highest sovereign capacity. It is the moderate, middle way that wisely avoids harsh remedies like secession on the one hand, and slavish, unlimited submission on the other.
It is the constitutional remedy for unconstitutional federal laws.
With the exception of a constitutional amendment, the federal government cannot oppose (except perhaps rhetorically), these actions to nullify an unconstitutional federal law without resorting to extra-legal measures or violence. But such measures would more than likely backfire, since most Americans still believe might does not make right.
There is no question as to whether or when such “official” nullification will happen: It has ALREADY HAPPENED.
In fact, not only has it happened recently, it has been a success! Perhaps this is why the federal government hopes you will never hear about it.
With Massachusetts voters approving Question 3 on November 6, 2012, there are now 18 states that have legalized marijuana use for limited medicinal purposes – in flat out defiance of the Congress, the Executive Branch and the Supreme Court.
AHHH…MEMORIES
There was a time when the federal government took the Constitution seriously enough that Congress actually did what was required to enact a nationwide ban on a substance – amend the Constitution. Even though the experiment would eventually be viewed as a failure, the 18th Amendment was passed, and the era known as “Prohibition” began. Four years later, it was repealed.
Burt when it comes to marijuana prohibition, the feds pulled another trick out of their sleeves. All three branches of the federal government agreed on a very novel, liberal interpretation of the “commerce clause,” allowing them to regulate virtually any substance, including marijuana, even though legal commerce involving pot doesn’t exist. Since that time, the federal government has claimed, with a straight face, that it has the power to regulate and ban a plant grown in your own back yard, never sold, and never leaving your property – all under the interstate “commerce clause.”
THE BLUEPRINT
But the states just aren’t buying it and it has implications far wider than they want you to know.
Mark Kreslins points out:
“..medical marijuana now poses a real threat to the enforcement power of the Federal Government. With state after state defying Washington D.C. over this issue..Washington D.C. has a choice to make; enforce their laws based on a very liberal interpretation of the Commerce Clause by sending thousands of DEA agents into all fifty states, or look the other way. Thus far, they’ve chosen to look the other way, for if they create the appearance of a Federal takeover of police powers in the States, they will fully expose their extra-constitutional behavior and provoke a direct confrontation with the States who will use the 10th Amendment (hopefully) to defend their prerogatives.”
Whatever your view may be regarding marijuana use, medical or otherwise, one thing is apparent: Nullification is happening right now, and it works! Washington DC will just have to get used to it because this same method can be applied to virtually any issue.
In fact, this type of action is building on many issues, including resisting so-called “indefinite detention” powers or violations of the 4th amendment by the TSA. Pick a constitutional violation, and say NO in your state, county, city, or town.
That’s the blueprint. When enough people stand up and say NO to a federal act or mandate – and enough states pass laws backing them up, there’s not much the federal government can do to force their unconstitutional rules, laws or mandates down our throats.
THE FUTURE?
What remains to be seen whether state governments will be willing to use their power to “officially” interpose themselves between agents of the federal government and the people of their state. In the unlikely event that one or more branches of the federal government decides to take extra-legal measures to punish residents of a state for exercising their constitutional rights in defiance of unconstitutional federal laws, will that state’s government have the courage to hamper or even neutralize such extra-legal measures?
There are a whole host of peaceful actions that a state government can adopt if that day comes, or appears to be just over the horizon. These measures range from county sheriffs requiring that federal agents receive written permission from the sheriff before acting in their county, to setting up a Federal Tax escrow account, which could potentially de-fund unconstitutional federal activities by requiring that all federal taxes come first to the state’s department of revenue.
Besides state interposition, the other thing Washington would have to consider is whether enough of their agents would actually obey orders to punish people for exercising their constitutional rights. There is a significant chance that enough of them would either publicly or privately decide in advance to ignore such orders. As the probability of this increases, it becomes more likely that Washington will not risk overplaying its hand. The reality is that Washington just doesn’t have the manpower to enforce all of their unconstitutional laws if enough states choose to defy them.
Of course, it all depends on the people of the several states: ordinary people like you and I.
Although I’ve discovered that there are more elected representatives at the state level who are committed to acting in a courageous and principled manner than I ever dared hope, most of their peers lack such a brave commitment. Most of them will stick their head in the sand, or sit on the fence, until they determine which way the wind is blowing. And so it’s our opinion, not the opinion of the American people in aggregate, but our opinion as citizens of our respective states, that will influence the decision of our state representatives to either stand tall or to kneel down and knuckle under.
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Question: do you even know the men and women who represent you? I’m not talking about those who represent you in Washington, but rather in Phoenix, Salem, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Denver, Austin, Oklahoma City, Tallahassee, Atlanta, Nashville, Richmond, Harrisburg, Indianapolis, Columbus and Springfield.
If you don’t know them, and you care about our republic, you should make it your highest priority to get to know them and establish rapport with them as soon as possible.
For any of you who really want to preserve our union, and at the same time retain your rights guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, I can’t say it any better than 2008 presidential nominee of the Constitution Party, Chuck Baldwin:
“..it is absolutely obligatory that freedom-minded Americans refocus their attention to electing State legislators, governors, judges and sheriffs who will fearlessly defend their God-given liberties..as plainly and emphatically as I know how to say it, I am telling you: ONLY THE STATES CAN DEFEND OUR LIBERTY NOW! ..this reality means we will have to completely readjust our thinking and priorities.”
Michael Maharrey and Michael Boldin contributed to this article.
I agree this is what we should be doing in our states but this does not disregard the long train of abuses by our Federal Government and one idea cannot discount the other idea.
And states are starting to get the message but only where they wish to because many stay connected to federal funding or public indebtedness. This must stop and states should learn to sustain their own activities. To do this several Departments of our federal Government need to go away because all they are is debt and expense to the producing in these states.
Their control of oil and the petrol dollar as they call it is a crime against humanity and cannabis itself was always intended as the renewable resource and is the very reason it has been so controlled. Those that were intent on petroleum products versus hemp products (which have proven far more user friendly) fully knew what they were doing by knowing a renewable resource from a limited resource which becomes controllable or out of control as we have witnessed.
This also works for exchanges, cannabis versus gold to back currencies instead printing money that has no exchange what so ever.
Then we have the overwhelming acts of war for years and years and years defying the actions of LIFE itself. This in no way supports life, people can scream protection against enemies but who are they really? Those creating wars for lets say petrol dollars? That limited resource they wish to control for their US currencies?
As much as I trust in this idea of Nullification I trust all my Governments far less by their actions to support this crap. It is time to list the crimes, it is time to rid ourselves of this Federal Reserve system or crime syndicate and all it has created in our Governments. It is time to clean house and set the record straight and then nullify most Federal Laws because most are by their own intent corrupt. And the solution to the madness is to first recognize the truth and deal with it in such a manner that makes sense to those who it effects.
The Producers, the Life that makes ideas take place, brings them into existence and shares these with others for the betterment of LIFE itself.
I Love your idea Michael and want to see all the success in the world with it, but as long as we are dealing with the biggest theft ring in America we will not prevail. Thomas Jefferson Warned about this as well and for good reason and we have the most evidence in todays world ever to shut this crap down. I am personally devoted to getting my country back for my children and I hope others are as sick and tired of this war on the producing in this country. Its time to use our skills to produce ideas to produce Liberty back in our country to support ourselves, our ideas and our achievements to live as a Republic and this will always be foiled as long as the criminals run wild in our white houses both federal and states.
@WilliamSchooler Very well said Mr. Schooler, I’ve been saying the exact same thing for a very long time now. I am of the opinion that since the corruption is so widespread among the federal and state governments. We should probably start at the local level and work our way out. Personally, I would like to see smaller confederations, they would be much easier to manage IMHO.
@Patrick Henry Thank you Patrick, please read “Necessary and Proper” = “Necessaria et Opportuna” and my comment on Law Makers. The more I learn about me, the more I discover about the aliens (those opposing life).
The Truth.
Thanks for such a solid and clear article on nullification. Definitely the summary for a Handbook on ‘Retaking America, One State, One county at a time.’ I will share this article with others and continue to make noise at my county level.
@Wulirider I’m with you. This is definitely something we can spread among our friends and local officials. Thank goodness for the hard work of the TAC…you guys are great!
Your argument depends on this statement being true: ”since most Americans still believe might does not make right” and I see little evidence of this. From our public school system to medicare and social security a large segment of our society embrace might makes right. State legislators are most aggressive about might makes right and show little interest in protecting state citizens. Your foolish argument offers no hope for libertyas should be clear from the failure of the “Principles of ’98″ from keeping us free in the first place.
@BrianErickson Ask Joshua Glover if the Principles of ’98 helped keep him free. Not to mention that from the time that the people of Wisconsin and their state officials invoked the Principles of ’98, not a single person accused of being a fugitive slave was allowed to be kidnapped and taken out of the state without a jury trial. Ask people who need medical marijuana if state laws that permit them to obtain it in defiance of federal prohibitions have been useful to them. Keeping ourselves free is not an all or nothing deal, it’s a continuous struggle against the centralization of power. The people of the several states have slowly been losing ground in that struggle for a long time. The Principles of ’98 are not a silver bullet. Neither are the principles of 1776 or any other set of principles for that matter. Principles don’t enforce themselves, only people can enforce them. There are no guarantees.
More convoluted BS from globalist satellite, Xth. You make nullification sound like punishment. Tory journalist masquerading patriot. Tar and feathers for you.
@gypsynovus Yep. You caught me red handed! I’ve never claimed to be a journalist, BTW. I’m an opinion writer actually. But yes, I’m actually working for George Soros. Good job unmasking me!
@dereksheriff @gypsynovus An opinion writer… GFG, liberal debauchery has no boundaries! You’ve got a good story going here, but it jumps around too much. If you’ve ever been around a hyperactive Boston Terrier, THAT’S what it’s like at this end. I don’t like those dogs, by the way, although I had a neighbor who loved hers. It hiked on everything in sight. Thank God this story has limitations! (pats dereksheriff on the head)
We have a rogue government that has gone against our constitution and the legal citizens of this country. They bring in illegal people to vote and put them on welfare and make us pay for them to be here. They don’t have to work or pay taxes. If we protest this we are deemed as rasists. The government is not going to do anything for us. They are changing our laws to keep themselves in power. We must stop this tyranney before it goes any farther. We must let those in charge they have no right to change our laws. We do not want a socialist marxsist country that is not fair to all citizens. Those here illegally should not ve able to vote and their votes need to be thrown out. They have to go through the legal steps for citizenship . Our laws are to be followed and can’t be changed only by executive order. That is wrong.
@junewinnopsteiger1
Truly the confusion is ours, THINKING we need laws for us. We really only have Rules for them but we allowed them to be LAW MAKERS, this perversion is ours to own and to abolish it should we take on the responsibility to ourselves.
ISN’T THE GOLDEN RULE ENOUGH !!?? ALONG WITH THE TEN COMMANDMENTS OUR LITTLE SPECK OF SPACE DUST AND THE MICROSCOPIC HUMAN FAMILY SHOULD BE DOING MUCH BETTER EVEN BY ACCIDENT. WHO EVEN NEEDS WASHINGTON D.C. FOR ANYTHING — MUCH LESS OUR CRIMINAL BANKERS AND THEIR PAPER.
Bans and Nullification are both good things for us to do. But the other thing we must do is hold “our” representatives accountable. Remember that the Oaths that they are REQUIRED to take to get into office are binding for life. That they are REQUIRED to keep those Oaths to continue to meet the requirements of the office that they are – temporarily – occupying.
The US Constitution is the Supreme Law of this land, not the federal government. It is our government and a legal document that requires all laws, bills, amendments, etc be in pursuance of it.
I have a petition up that will make it easier to hold “our” representatives accountable for their actions:
‘We Can Immediately Fire and Replace Any Constitutional Oath Taker That Doesn’t Keep the Legally Binding Oath as Required
US Constitution is Supreme Law. The first law statute of the USA was Statute 1, Chapt 1: an act to regulate the time and manner of administering certain oaths, which established the oath required by civil and military officials to support the Constitution. The wording of the Presidential Oath – Constitution, Article II, Section 1, Clause 8. The Oath requirement for all Fed and State Civil officers – Art VI, Sect 1, Clause 4. The Oath is binding for life.
Solemn: “Legally binding, Common legal phrase indicating that an agreement has been consciously made, and certain actions are now either required or prohibited”, “The other requirement for an agreement or contract to be considered legally binding is consideration – both parties must knowingly understand what they are agreeing to”.’ . gov/ XB5b
I need enough signatures to get it out to the public to sign. Take out the spaces and if you agree to it, please sign.
@KansasBright
I totally disagree with you, the US constitution is not the Law of the land, it is the limits of the Governing, its not a supreme law for anything.
The supreme Law is natures law, LIFE which is total authority unto itself, its Liberty and act that must take place to have and hold such limits. Its the implementation of such a document to limit those in public office.
Secondly these oaths are completely useless in a Federal Corporation because they are only bound to the corporation and not to the people. These people are alien to our way of Life as a Republic.
There is only one authority in all the life you are and that is you over you regardless of how many words you print upon this forum. You don’t even have the authority to tell me this is the law of the land period.
What we need is enough feeling and decision and love for ourselves to dissolve this false authority of false LAWS. This is not a court issue it is a LIFE issue. My only agreement in this life on this planet will be the acts that support and allow life, that create liberty or I refuse such an agreement what so ever as well this authoritative view which got us here. This should be a clear example of what authoritative acts look like.
What is required is recognition of Life, the cause we are able to create and the laws of nature we are bound by which are not written in any legal text I assure you.
Find yourself, love yourself and give you the respect you are for nothing on this rock is done or manifest without the choice to do so. I have learned my lessons and I share with you this piece, may you wake up.
http://www.aproducingamerican.com/2012/11/19/what-are-law-makers/
@KansasBright One thing missing is that DC seceded from the U.S. in 1916 and is a foreign country deeded to the IMF . The Constitution does not apply to them and especially the Oath . Our court system is set up for Admiralty Law , not Common or Gods Law .
This is why we must have a Constitutional Sheriff .
@deebar @KansasBright They cannot represent us or create debt we are required to pay, or tax us, or create laws for us UNLESS they are under the US Constitution. It is the Constitution that is our government, not the people who are elected or assigned to carry out the duties it has assigned to each branch.
That is why when Obama, Panetta, and Dempsey said that their “authority comes from the UN, NOT from the US Constitution” and that “they do NOT represent the USA, but are representatives of the UN” was treason.
It is also why Obama cannot create EO’s because they are created by the “authority” the US Constitution gave to him as the person temporarily serving that branch at this time (besides that the executive branch does NOT have that power).
Plus if that is true (I will research it) then NONE of them are serving as our legitimate government and we can create a new constitutional one immediately. Moving them out of the white house, and getting the appropriate arrests for subsequent prosecutions will be more difficult.
@KansasBright@deebar
This may not be true either, the constitution is simply a guide WE use to LIMIT them. that piece of paper, those words and symbols carry not one bit of activity. This would be done by the deciding of those who actually agree with the terms and apply them period. Since the present Federal Government is not bound by the Constitution as a Corporate entity we see daily the non compliance and since we are the upholders we see the lack of enforcement to them by us.
You can drum up all the Constitutions you want and none will be valid without decision to apply and the agreement of such terms. This can only be done by participation and not the spewing of words as holding any such value or authority. The confusion is totally ours for we are the deciding, the implementers and the recognition as well. It will only be when we decide to participate with each other to serve our basic principals and not until then because so few are unaware of these, their meanings and their applications in each one of our lives. Choices can only be as good as the ingredients we put into each one and not one thing takes place or manifest without such an act.
Why have a foundation you are clueless to and the constitution is not the foundation, it is the described limits we are to enforce upon those in public office not adhering. It is also the meaning of one of our basic Principals which is Liberty which does not fall out of the sky, it must be manifest by those who cause and what is cause again?
@KansasBright @deebar WHAT constitution? OMG, where are you people? THE NSC IS EVISCERATING THE DCBR. Do you not understand this? Do you think the constitution is going to stand up on it’s own and protect mankind? ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND?
Yes, you are out of your mind.
@gypsynovus The Constitution of the United States of America. The people are sovereign, and if we let this go on, it will go on. Do you know WHO the militia is? It is ALL able bodied men and women aged 18 – 45. Do you know that the Sheriffs are an elected body that is “supposed” to be the peoples protection (also)? If you do not bother to find out what YOUR state constitution says, and then hold YOUR state reps, elected bodies accountable … where you expecting someone to bail you and yours out? No, the responsibility lies with ALL of us to do what we can to stop it.
Go read boiling frogs, go down to classified woman, watch the interview they have their to see who is known to not be a traitor to our nation – of those who serve, have served within our government.
Educate all those around you that you can. Start holding lower level legislation within your state accountable: call, e mail, write, ask many questions. Demand that they sign to nullify and ban NDAA, Patriot Act, warrant less everything (it is one more accountability you will have) and it will be passed to all LEO’s in your state once the governor signs so that They know what They are to do, and most importantly, what they canNOT do..
@KansasBright @gypsynovus Those are all ideas. That’s not to say you’re thoughts aren’t worthy, just they aren’t the stuff of a fight, and the DSBR is not going to put up this fight for us. What’s happened is the NRA and Posse Comitatus (PC) functioned together to diffuse the 2nd amendment via elimination of a well regulated militia that would fall naturally from a united effort between armed forces and police (PC) all the while completely setting aside a civilian militia by focusing in gun ownership singularly (NRA). People are stupid by the millions, my friend. The DCBR has turned out to be not much more that a glorified comic book with it’s heroes, the founding fathers, now a thing of the past. If you want to change this you have to begin teaching people the difference between debauchery and reason and how the former is in fact that occult government that has superimposed itself upon the DCBR with the explicit purpose of forcing it out of existence. Stop taking the debauchery bait they throw at you, and learn the debauchery cipher they use to put you on a timeline for oblivion. You have to be willing to route every politician that presents in a convoluted agenda automatically responding with a recall with their malingering and stop savioring these monsters in perpetuity. People don’t have this kind of fight in them. More still to this purpose, did you know it’s healthier to eat every other day but that they have people stuffing themselves to they’ll be too satiate to think clearly? See how misinformed people are? Copy, paste and circulate, my friend, and watch how many people pay attention. Very few.
@deebar @KansasBright The NGA could have handled that, but they’ve all pledge to the UK via the Scottish rite. DC’s OTHER identity under this scheme is Atramental Lodge 23, a virulent UL inspired SSO that was christened on Whitechapel.
@gypsynovus @deebar What part of “We the People” do you not understand? We have to do what WE can to bail ourselves out legally with arrests and prosecutions. Just because they ignore the laws and our LEGITIMATE government does not mean that we do.
Find all LEO’s and judges that still support the US Constitution – support them, stand by them. All the rest – denounce them for their unAmerican activities working to destroy the USA. Show and list the crimes they have done, what agencies and organizations support and put into actions UN Agenda 21 (does take research).
Teach the people about Agenda 21 that takes away our right to own property, businesses, cars, etc; takes away what we already own – NO payment, etc. People hate to lose things.
Teach them the difference between the progressive “freedom”: whcihis the right to be free from ever having to make any decisions for your self – what you eat, when you eat, when you are allowed to sleep, who you date if you get to date, will you be allowed to breed (in their eyes we are lower animals, slaves), what education you will get, what type of work you will do, when you will do it, how long you will do it. Under the progressives, you will be denied the right to make ANY decsion for yourself as you are too ignorant (generic “you”).
Freedom as the Constitution defends: the freedom to make YOUR own choices – good or bad.
@KansasBright@gypsynovus@deebar
I will make it clear, it really means WE the Deciding, WE the Knowing our foundation and principals by which we make choices at all.
Do not teach agenda 21 to anyone because agenda 21 does not do a thing, people who wish to control are the actions of that agenda and are Aliens to our principals.
Independence is simply a choice to be free of aliens who will not Declare their support for Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness by their decisions and their actions. These are the point of the separation, these acts of opposition the crimes against us who do not live by these principals.
And what laws are you speaking of, the made up laws or the natural laws of your own life which need no attorneys? These only need understanding and our constitution is not a set of laws its a set of limits for those in governing bodies.
Militias, sheriffs and any Judges who decide and act in accordance to these principals are easy to see as well are the Aliens who do not. They will need no books or written laws, all they need is proof of actions by such Aliens and being held accountable is activities that make the wrongs right or corrected and those unwilling to do the acts of correction deserve bread and water and no more or a boat back to their British devotion where they can all go steal from each other until stupid completely kills itself.
Getting involved locally and setting the record straight is our task, getting our locals to recognize themselves and the all important participation. This can only be done by your own example. Getting ourselves well educated to make the direction clear is a paramount duty to ourselves.
Our Declaration of Independence is actually our purest teacher should you actually get what this document actually is. It is a set of instructions to use, with a set of principals to guide you and WE are the users and the deciding, get over it.
Call it Nullification of Alien intruders by the principled and the deciding.
@WilliamSchooler @KansasBright @deebar Okay, great. Notebook’s ready. We’re going to use bravado. They’re using bullets, chemicals, predator drones and Obamanoids on Obamaphones.
… This isn’t going to work. You know this.
@gypsynovus@KansasBright@deebar
Really? Ask yourself how any idea conceived is brought into existence, acted upon and how achievements are brought about. I don’t care which one you look at and then figure what causes this to be true and by whom.
The statement “this is not going to work” is implemented how? and obviously you have done this act to be so sure of your own actions correct?
When we become ignorant of our own mechanics, abilities, capacities or use them in this incorrect manner do we only fail ourselves. It would be too bad if we were not this intelligent but if we were there would be no accomplishments on this earth at all. So who is this argument really with?
Then their is the admittance that our Alien counterparts are only able to accomplish their agenda and we are incapable of achieving any of our ideas, again who are you attempting to convince?
In the world of THINGs produced show me who were the actual deciding behind these, another words who decided to do the actual acts to bring them into existence, organize the parts and test and evaluate these as workable?
Was this done by agreement and choice? Who are these people? When do we take what we do every day and apply it to our needs, desires and dreams which are only concepts until we do what act?
@WilliamSchooler @KansasBright @deebar Yep, William’s got a handle on it. Logic. Use logic to defeat bullets, chemicals, predator drones, a communications blackout and HUGE unmanned robotic civilization destroyers! Logic and argument is our militia, by golly! We’ll show’m… with GRAFFITI! Let’s do this!
@gypsynovus No gypsynovus. That is where we start. I guess you believe that the government created the internet, it did not. The weapons created FOR the military were made by private businesses that contracted for the military – many that are corrupt , true. But not all of those people involved are.
Neither are all of our US Military corrupted and believe in destroying our nation and their own families and friends. Why else is the government putting all who return on the “terrorist” watch list? Why are they making up reasons to arrest them and throw them into “psych” wards for “reprogramming” and to get them out of the way? why do you think we ahve mercenaries on our shores in OUR military for higher pay then our own soldiers get?
Why is educating the people so important? Do you think that all those who voted for/ supported Obama would still if they knew they were to be slaves (no pay, no say so in your life makes you a slave)? That the freedom the progressives espouse is the “freedom” from ever making you own decision again: from what you eat, when you are allowed to sleep, to if you ever get to mate? Would the New Black Panthers stand for that, if they knew? As an alternate para military group, would they ket the things they own be taken from them?
@gypsynovus
How do you tell a fake from a genuine intent? The willingness to participate or the refusal and the act of attempting to make others wrong. Are you so in fear of all that is around you that you continue to agree to their terms? What happened to you that you where unable to learn the truth about yourself?
@KansasBright @gypsynovus There ya go. Assume someone’s got an idea, then argue with it. Dang!
@WilliamSchooler Two choices. ALWAYS two choices. People don’t get it. They love the sound of their own voice. The beauty of their own words. Their reflection in the mirror, photographs of family and such, but always only two choices. They live 100 years and they never get it. The power of the mind is discrimination. We learn first by discrimination, and yet by the time we reach adulthood, we’ve so alienated this mental power we’re no longer human. Hahaha Those two choices are debauchery and reason. I am laughing really hard here, momma’s boy.
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@gypsynovus
Yes there are only two choices, the way of life of oppression and the way of life with Liberty in a Republic way and these are activities you decide and then live in your daily life, under closer inspection how many have chosen Republic and evidence will show very few.
And you are wrong, most people refuse to use the mirror to find their answers and most of us intent on solutions would rather be doing something far more productive than dealing with the hard of hearing and the no curious, but then I am under no illusions that anything on this earth will be easy, it will simply be learned.
As for laughing its a good practice and shows character, I do it all the time but do you have to tell everyone here what you are? Thats just weird man, LMAO.
@WilliamSchooler He can’t help it Mr. Schooler, he has this “limbic” thing going on inside his brain. Ask him about it if you really want to have a good laugh.
@KansasBright @gypsynovus Please, God, do not let Gypsynervous mate.
@gypsynovus @WilliamSchooler Okay now, Gypsynervous. Really try NOT to listen to the voices.
@WilliamSchooler @gypsynovus re the mirror, there’s image reflection, and there’s personal reflection, the latter the sign of a conscience. The former is the lack of it. Most people use the mirror. We know this, because they’re stuck. It’s tough to get unstuck, because to do this folks have to change their state of mind from an external focus to an inward one. Also, god is the internal focus. Satan is the outward one. People confuse these often times thanking God for all their worldly possessions and good fortune. In these circumstances, they are reaching out to the Satan, or man. Not all laughter shows good character, but it DOES release emotionally, which can also be a good thing or a bad thing. Laughter is ultimately a paradox. For example, I once saw a man assault another for grinning. The perp made a provocative remark to his victim, the victim not knowing how to respond, smiled. Then he got beaten nearly to death to subordinate him to his perp. I subordinated the perp and 11 of his buddies. I never laughed about this incident. The man that got beat up saved my life. When you learn to use reason as the basis of your decisions, you can prevails over just about any obstacle that presents, and you learn to avoid those which you CAN’T overcome. When you lose, you regroup, seek your mistakes and start over. when you get automatic on this you start winning a lot. American are lazy. They don’t think. They don’t care. they think they are going idealize or prayer vigil a savior into existence. It’s not going to happen. They’ve made a decision, debauchery over reason. They’ll live one day to the next over stimulated to the end. They love debauchery, and when they get in a bind, they pray, complain and threaten to loft a Remington. That’s it. That’s the summation of the DCBR. People eat. They fuck. They party. They sleep. They live this macabre on their IDEAS, but they don’t have a clue about how they got these ideas except they somehow formulated on a lifestyle that was earned on the blood of people who sacrifice for freedom and liberty. Today’s culture this application is the freedom to choose a fast food product from the value meal menu and the liberty where to eat it. You have ideas, William. Ideas…
@Patrick Henry @WilliamSchooler The limbic brain, yes, this is the primitive self we are dealing with in today’s man. It motivates a lot of trouble for mankind, because he doesn’t understand it. It’s impulse, and most people can be baited to impulsive behavior via money, drugs and sex, hence the entertainment industry and the role this is playing in our repatriation. People laugh at this yes, but they’re immature. They haven’t yet evolved the ability to make a conscious choice about their circumstances, and like the man that got beat up grinning at his assailant, they’re in a catch 22 situation; for lack of understanding they giggle and laugh. Then the NCS swoops down on them with a 911 Wicker Man. Oh yeah, I know this laughter, my friend. the difference between you and I is Io don’t dent it.
@far2right @KansasBright Too late. All college graduates, too.
@gypsynovus
No most people do not use a mirror to SPEAK to themselves which you can call personal reflection if you wish I simply call it communications to self.
I give more credit to people, they are far from stuck they are simply well trained. Also God is an inclusive part of life and life all inclusive so when we recognize ourselves as LIFE, operate ourselves as LIFE (which are acts of supporting life) do we find ourselves aware of the gifts we have been given by LIFE or God which ever you decide to call it. There is no authority over life and is where stories have been told.
Go where babies are born and look at all of them and then ask yourself what it is they are doing? Then attempt to find the Satan baby and tell me how that goes for you. Another words if you were looking for Hell and you found earth it would certainly serve. Bad decisions, the unwillingness to learn and grow from lessons is simply choice and if you want to call bad choice Satan go for it. Most of this satanic shit is taught and most religions Claim they are the ONE, but none of it is true because in LIFE there is no one there is only all.
Real laughing in its genuine state is the ability to laugh because you completed something and all that hard work is now funny instead mass effort. It is the ability to laugh at yourself for lessons well received and understood, so you could say it is an effect of accomplishment. Thus the statement; The Pursuit of Happiness (really think about that).
WE all screw up in life which is a great thing and those who have worked to be proper all their life did not learn much. For those of us who lived and tested actual ideas (good and bad) grew and are better decision makers for it. The biggest answer we can find is what makes the difference of a good idea versus a bad idea and this question can be answered in this manner. When all is said and done did the effects support life or deny, or restrict or destroy life? This is the difference and there is no other difference I don’t care how many make up all the bull shit they want. You are either for life by your ideas, decisions and actions or you are acting in opposition to it and the truth is only and always revealed by the results of the act itself.
Love is a simple state to be achieved and can only be done with self and then shared period, it does not come from praying, it does not come out of the sky, it is discovered. Eating and procreating are all natural acts of life, their glorifications are simply bad decision makers exploiting bad ideas and finding agreement for such bad ideas.
Today’s culture is simply trained badly and to train correctly we need to find ourselves and figure out in the big picture what it is we are a part of. This is why I always point to the Declaration of Independence because it actually explains it in such detail if understood and applied would achieve what we are all looking for, to have Life with Liberty well created in this life to allow our pursuits of achievements which sustain and allow us and these effects truly our happiness for supporting ourselves as such a life, this way or this direction chosen can only be found and shown to exist in a Public way of life or a Republic way of life where life participate with one another in lessons, in growth and in sustaining practices. This is not religious this is choice, ( a gift for which all life holds should we include ourselves).
Our own miss conception of Liberty in this country is truly only our lack of research. What I found was that the constitution when applied fully is Liberty period. This achieved would broadcast daily Life is allowed to test ideas, bring into existence new ideas to sustain us and no dominance or monopolies would exists. This is simple to imagine when we view and reflect as the LIFE we are and not all the illusive or poor imagined images of some poor limited mind or life.
These are only finding so vivid I was unable to argue myself.
@gypsynovus@Patrick Henry
The baiting is only an effect of poor training from birth because our own parents were trained very poorly.
As for giggling, poor choice is constant but believe it or not can be a great thing to learn from. Sometimes so many take everything so literal and cannot find the good in bad. Simply put bad ideas put on display can and should be great lessons for us all to make better choices moving forward.
Again most were not trained to look at themselves as life which is defined as all things period because nothing in this Universe would exist without such a life. The dictionaries are lying intentionally. Religious dominance or authority is a lie as well and in my own experience I could not find one thing in this life to exclude including the acts of poor decision making.
I do not go around blaming people I go around sharing my own personal finds and yes each gets to decide for themselves whether they choose to discover such answers for self. We are either here for each other by such a choice or we are acting in our own opposition.
None of this is going to work without a well regulated militia. Go here and sign up:
http://wp.me/p1GpdK-K5
It now seems that the ‘defacto’ leader of the free world is Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel. He is not out to destroy or allow Israel to be destroyed from within or without and Israel, contrary to popular belief has the military technology to end the reign of the current Muslim dictator of the United States.
Hey, 10thAC.
Some of us old fogies still like to print and read articles.
When I try to do so from your website it gets grossly reformatted so that is scarcely readable, if at all.
Do us a favor and please fix this.
Will you tenthers ever stop using the canard of “medical” marijuana as a justification for nullification?
Jeez. Just come out and say it, you love being potheads.
No one is ever going to be arrested for “recreational” marijuana use.
If you get caught with a “recreational” amount of pot, you are stupid and deserve to spend some time in jail.
How about focusing on a matter of much greater importance.
For example, in my state of Tennessee was passed the Health Care Freedom Act. which is supposed to protect Tennesseans from forced health care if they so choose not to comply with 0bamacare.
However, it turns out there is no teeth to this law.
0ba-mao will still take my tax dollars if I refuse to comply.
And the state of Tennessee has absolutely no way to protect me from a tyrannical federal government.
Hell, Haslam is already caving on the health care exchange issue.
How can I possibly trust that this limp wrist will have my back?
So, Mr. Nullifier.
What good is nullification if the state cannot protect its citizens?
You are fooling your readers.
@far2right ”Hell, Haslam is already caving on the health care exchange issue.”
Where?
“And the state of Tennessee has absolutely no way to protect me from a tyrannical federal government.”
You’re kidding, right?
@babcicathy The Knoxville Tea Party is working to educate state congressional members on the matter of state exchanges and why Tennessee should decline. A common misconception among Republicans is that if a state provides an exchange, it retains control of the exchange’s provisions (including coverage for abortifacients). This is completely untrue as the HHS secretary will deem, under her sole whim, whether or not a state’s exchange provides what the feds want provided.
Haslam is prepared to recommend a state exchange.
He will then let the house and senate battle it out so he does not have to be seen as the bad guy.
As for state protection, how exactly will my sheriff keep the IRS from taking my money to pay the mandate tax?
It’s not about what we want.
It’s about what we can and cannot do.
The TN HCFA has no teeth except on the state level.
In practicality, it is worthless.
I will be on my own if I wish to not comply with 0bamacare.
Sakes, I often think the TAC is nothing more than a front organization for the legalization of marijuana.
@far2right
You said:
“Haslam is prepared to recommend a state exchange. He will then let the house and senate battle it out so he does not have to be seen as the bad guy.”
Tell me how you know what Haslam is prepared to do? And, the two houses of the TN state government have GOP SUPER majorities. Who will be battling over what?
@babcicathy @far2right Hahahahaha…
@far2right@babcicathy
Here is one of the best examples of most in movements and why achievement is ridiculous.
“The Tea Party is working to educate their state Congress”
What if they do not wish to be educated, what if they have decided to do the acts of all the other stupid aliens around them? Who the hell is the state congress, your authority for anything to take place? What if they have been resisting for decades?
Then this tops it off and says what is wrong in this world today; “I will be on my own if I wish to not comply with Obummercare”
Really, did you make this choice all on your own? You didn’t rally around those who live by your own principals? What are your principals? Since the Aliens have their own set of Principals that directly oppose your’s which principals are yours and which are theirs?
Mine are very simple and are written on the only competent instruction sheet ever written to date, although I have personally rewritten this document. These are LIFE, LIBERTY and the Pursuit of Happiness and every choice I ever make is comprised of these and helps me to see those not acting with these.
Now for all of you confused about Marijuana and believe me it is your confusion, get a grip on you. Many of us have done our research and are behind this for health itself. If you wish to sit in ignorance go ahead but this cause is far greater than anything you have known in history because nothing has been lied about this long anywhere in any civilization. Those that created your miss information are not even your friends and have not one bit of support for you, they have no principals of promoting Life or Liberty and they only want to control what you pursue period. So you get a grip on you and either do the homework or shut up because your own ignorance is showing on a public forum. Those of us who have become informed are making this choice based upon the facts and not the ignorance. I am not a pot head, but I did test eating it for a health issue and let me tell you something personally, you are being lied to in the highest degree, now ask you why this is?
@babcicathy This is what we are hearing from our state legislature contacts. Haslam was ready to make his recommendation for an exchange and then Sebelious gave a deadline extension.
Super majority does not matter when many Repubs assume the state has control over what the state exchange offers as products. But this is completely untrue. Sebelius (Dr. Tiller the baby killer’s friend) decides if an exchange is suitable.
My state representative is the most conservative, constitutionally minded state rep I know of. He was caught off guard at our last Tea Party meeting to not know that the state does not control what is offered in state run exchanges.
It is my understanding that even if Haslam recommends a state exchange, the legislature still has to approve it.
What we plan to do is hold our legislature’s feet to the fire by reminding them of the TN HCFA and tell them that a vote for the exchange is a violation of this law for those of us who do not want 0-care forced on us.
But we are just one small Tea Party.
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy
“Principal”, “miss information”.
Remember from grade school. Principal is your “pal”. Viz, a principal is a person.
A little mnemonic device for you that I believe you can remember even when you are high.
Justify your marijuana habit all you will. The fact remains that it clouds thinking as is clear in your case.
So, let me try to break it down for you in the most simple form so that you can understand it even while under the influence.
0bamacare’s tax provision works automatically at the federal level.
Folks in Tennessee cheered the passage of the TN Health Care Freedom Act supposedly provide protection for its citizens who did not want 0bamacare forced on them.
The fact is, there is nothing the state of Tennessee, “rallying around those who live by my same principles”, a state militia, sheriff of Jedi Master can do to prevent the feds from automatically taking the tax penalty.
Finally, you wrote, “Here is one of the best examples of most in movements and why achievement is ridiculous.”
Well then, why the hell are you even on this blog?
@far2right@babcicathy
Man I love symbolism and those who authorize it, this is the confusion isn’t it? Principal/Principle and we wonder what is wrong with communications in our world. It was created this way on purpose for this very reason. Get past it and figure out how to live and then describe it the best you can with a hatchet job language.
I am so far from high it isn’t even funny and it is so typical of the miss informed to propose bad information.
Why does Obummercare tax provisions work automatically at the federal Level? Would that be the peoples federal level or the corporate federal level? Which one do you choose or go into agreement with?
WOW! you give these Federal Aliens a lot of ability, how small are you? What is agreement?
I happen to believe in the 10th amendment by a Peoples Republic, the problem I am having is all this agreement that federal Aliens in a corporation have more force than I which I entirely disagree. I work to inform others to stop going into agreement with the corporation and their false ideas like Marijuana is bad for you, that Liberty is bad for you, and security is good for you. How could a federal anything become so powerful without any agreement? It cannot but you go ahead and keep giving your own agreement and never ask yourself why and then call me high and out of it. Really, its impressive at best and a great example of what really ales us. I know symbolism carries for more weight than actions correct?
I wonder how Independence ever came to be in the first place? Agreement to an out of control king or agreement on Living as a Republic where the true deciding could accomplish great things at will? Which “Principles” Support this concept or idea when making such choices? The Kings?
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy You can walk up to the fence at Pennsylvania Avenue and flip 0bama two birds and yell “Nullification under the 10th Amendment”.
He will still exact his penalty tax on you if you decide not to get health insurance.
You are powerless to avoid it, for now.
@far2right @babcicathy Yeah, it’s a violation of the law, so we’re going to hold’m accountable, right Babs? Uh, will, er… They don’t follow the law already, Babs, so maybe it doesn’t matter, eh? Oh well, let’s eat!
@WilliamSchooler @far2right @babcicathy All of you, GET A GRIP! That’s what counts in these challenging times of occult government, repatriation and American ideological flippancy! William, do something, I don’t know, LOGICAL, maybe, with this crowd! NOW, William!
@far2right@babcicathy
Man you have to love the power of agreement, thank you for the example of how that is done.
Its funny how all reality is only by our own agreement and as long as we hold that view it will continue to persist.
Its terrible the deciding would become useless over useful, that is such a limited view and one I refuse to hold on to thanks.
@far2right You are right, to “yell “Nullification under the 10th Amendment”" would not work. But if you get YOUR state to nullify it, and the Patriot Act, and all the warrantless stuff. Get all the Sheriffs as constitutional sheriffs in your state, get Your governor to start requiring militia training, and order weapons… get together with other states that have done the same .. hmmmm think that might help?
@gypsynovus
I am constant, I persist and I will not veer. I am living as I say, independent, as Life (all encompassing) I dare not promote any other act but Liberty, I choose not to live any other life but A Republic way and my strengths have become this life I have chosen. I have declared myself separate from the Aliens of our time and signed my copy of my Declaration of Independence because I am who I say I am by my actions. I am new to my state and my community and becoming established. I am finding many around me that have high agreement in what I promote which is different from where I came from.
I am a producer of this nation with accomplished products and services which created my own demand. I have taken these acts, this knowledge and am starting to communicate with these successful actions versus all these other ideologies that have not produced the desired results I choose to live which means and intends I am being honest with myself and not made up by the falseness that surrounds me.
Logic is only a view of something workable in a direction that can be shown and answers the apparent questions living around us daily. Miss information has far too much agreement and this agreement is literally personal choice that it is fare and just which by its results verifies it is false. The decision so powerful it will not allow new information in, it will not allow the act of listening and duplication or the ability to understand by questions and conversation. Participation with one another is not the act of no listening, it is the exact opposite. Show me in a Republic way of life where participation of the Life, the public, the people do not participate.
Those in agreement with Governing bodies, refusal to support Liberty by such agreement are not honest with them. It is one thing to say you are against something but it is true gift to show without question you are living in such a manner. The willingness to listen, the willingness to discuss, the willingness to take the time and figure out how these things relate to our own lives paramount to our own choice make capabilities and really says out loud the willingness to participate in growth of my and your own Republic way of life. I deliver to you these ideas as they are lived daily by choice and those in refusal only refusing what they say they believe.
@WilliamSchooler Exactly. They can do nothing without our agreement, and our money.
Don’t buy things that you don’t need, and can use if SHTF. Starving them out helps.
Let your representatives know that you want them arrested for XX (list them) crimes they have committed for prosecution. Let them know that YOU know that when they broke the Oath they made themselves NO LONGER MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OFFICE / POSTION THEY NOW OCCUPY and you want to replce them immediately and are working to do so.
Educate any military, ask Oathkeepers to puts some billboards up and iv you can afford to, assist by donating. Support constitutional sheriffs, any law enforcement (LEO’s), judges that have done their job properly like the judge who decided that the NDAA IS unconstitutional and that it could not be used against Americans.
Let all unconstitutional and corrupt representatives, judges (like the one who did Obama’s bidding to stop the NDAA constitutional judge – GET THEIR NAMES OUT IN THE PUBLIC – listing their crimes), LEO’s, Military – whatever their rank (Like Dempsey, quasi military Panetta) be brought out into the open, listing their crimes for all to see and exactly how it can affect them. Tying this to their own lives will make education of the public easier.
DEMAND that the Head of the FCC and about 4 layers beneath be arrested for THEIR crimes against the USA and her people:
“It is the purpose of the First Amendment to preserve an uninhibited marketplace of ideas in which truth will ultimately prevail, rather than to countenance monopolization of that market, whether it be by the Government itself or a private licensee. It is the right of the public to receive suitable access to social, political, esthetic, moral, and other ideas and experiences which is crucial here. That right may not constitutionally be abridged either by Congress or by the FCC.” Supreme Court, Red Lion v. FCC,1969
People do not know when those who are in those postions commit crimes, especially those who have immigrated here from tyrat ran countries. They do NOT know that a document can be a government, while the people serving in it are just temp workers (yes, higher paid, bigger lifestye, and better benes) grabbing power they legally do not have.
“God provided that in this land of liberty, our political allegiance shall run not to individuals, that is, to government officials, no matter how great or how small they may be. Under His plan our allegiance and the only allegiance we owe as citizens or denizens of the United States, runs to our inspired Constitution which God himself set up. So runs the oath of office of those who participate in government. A certain loyalty we do owe to the office which a man holds, but even here we owe just by reason of our citizenship, no loyalty to the man himself. In other countries it is to the individual that allegiance runs. This principle of allegiance to the Constitution is basic to our freedom. It is one of the great principles that distinguishes this “land of liberty” from other countries”. J. Reuben Clark
@far2right @WilliamSchooler @babcicathy Look up the IRS. When was it LEGALLY given power ? What about that they added the RFID chips back into Obamacare that a lot of us and Ron Paul forced to be taken out of it (Yeah, all who are on Obamacare are to be microchipped. Look up microchipping in vacines while you are at it.
The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) provides tax credits and subsidies for the purchase of qualifying health insurance plans on state-run insurance exchanges. Contrary to expectations, many states are refusing or otherwise failing to create such exchanges. An Internal Revenue Service (IRS) rule purports to extend these tax credits and subsidies to the purchase of health insurance in federal exchanges created in states without exchanges of their own. This rule lacks statutory authority. The text, structure, and history of the Act show that tax credits and subsidies are not available in federally run exchanges. The IRS rule is contrary to congressional intent and cannot be justified on other legal grounds. Because the granting of tax credits can trigger the imposition of fines on employers, the IRS rule is likely to be challenged in court.
states could kill Obamacare by refusing to implement its insurance exchanges. This strategy would be effective because the survival of PPACA depends on the ability of Beltway bureaucrats to dole out its tax credits and subsidies, but the law stipulates that all such assistance must be dispensed via state-run exchanges. Likewise, PPACA’s employer mandates can only be triggered by premium assistance that originates from state exchanges. Even if the federal government creates an exchange in a state that has declined to do so, it would not be authorized to issue tax credits or fine noncompliant businesses. Thus, if the majority of the states refuse to create exchanges, it will doom Obamacare. There is, however, one weakness inherent in this strategy. It assumes that the Obama administration will obey the law. The plan will be difficult to implement if the President and his accomplices simply ignore the text of PPACA and illegally funnel tax credits and subsidies through federally-created exchanges.
@KansasBright@far2right@babcicathy
How much agreement in this country do we have to pay taxes? Tons, there are millions who think and agree we should pay taxes.
How many do we have agreeing to Obummercare? Again millions and thats a lot of agreement, decision and activity of support.
But lets see how much agreement for another form of life, how much agreement do we have to be a Republic way of life? How many do you know that are eating sleeping and deciding to be and create a Republic? WOW that many.
Lets see how many agree that Life is a great choice to support, how many do you know that eat and and choose everything based upon LIFE? Wow, about the same amount as a Republic.
Now lets look at how many agree to Liberty as a limit of Government by a constitution, how many is that? Crap agreement is just not there is it?
But you put some social, authoritative law in place and agreement goes out the roof. This is what most are NOT looking at because they want to look at all the dip shits and poor choice makers of our world, of our states and focus all their energy on that CRAP, worse yet we want to agree it is a part of us rather than refusing its concept at all. We spend all our time, and all our energy STUCK on THEIR stupid ideas and then agree its the authority. Personally this is dumb but thats just from my experience and recognizing I didn’t know a damn thing, but don’t let my lessons sway you in any other direction please. Please hold on to THEIR ideas and please continue the same poor habits you have your whole life because agreement is paramount to actions.
See the thing I recognized is these things were all good lessons if were to look at them in this manner and that we could use these as informed choices to make far better choices and far better agreements. But what the hell do I know, I see the results of what everyone else knows and it just doesn’t add up yet it persists. How does anything in this life persist? This is very valid question and has a very valid answer, here it is, by agreement because this is how capable life is. That does lead to make me question my own thinking, but I am the only one that needs to do that so don’t worry.
What are lessons and what is education really? Better yet what is an agreement? What makes that even possible at all?
How does ignorance itself persist?
@WilliamSchooler @far2right @babcicathy You just described TRUTH, not reality. Dang! Would ya just, OMG, do this…Geesh… Right already!
@WilliamSchooler @babcicathy Yeah! Uh, what?
@far2right You are incorrect. First state Sheriff’s are a huge part of the state’s defense against any invasion, incluiding that of the feds {people made states, states made the constitution, constitution is the blueprint for the fed gov, etc.
What is left out is the State Militia. The state militia is that every able bodied person in the state between age 18 – 45 ARE the state militia, and when called upon by their state, are required to defend the state from ALL invaders, including Domestic Enemies attempting to destroy the legitimate government. That is why the citizens in the USA MUST be armed, and are supposed to also be trained.
Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 1164, a law which breaks the militia down into three groups. The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia,
The unorganized militia and
The regular army.
It states: The militia encompasses every able-bodied person – used to say males because only men could serve in fighting positions - between the ages of 18 and 45.
All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of ANY type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
“I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.” George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment during Virginia’s Convention to Ratify the Constitution, 1788
“The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and DUTY to be at all times armed; … ” Thomas Jefferson, letter to Justice John Cartwright (emphasis is mine)
“The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, and this without any qualification as to their condition or degree, as is the case in the British government.” St. George Tucker, a lawyer, Revolutionary War militia officer, legal scholar, and later a U.S. District Court judge - the Supreme Court has cited Tucker in over forty cases. One can find Tucker in the major cases of virtually every Supreme Court era.”
William Rawle, authored “A View of the Constitution of the United States of America” (1829). His work was adopted as a constitutional law textbook at West Point and other institutions. He describes the scope of the Second Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms: “The prohibition is general. No clause in the constitution could by any rule of construction be conceived to give congress a power to disarm the people. Such a flagitious attempt could only be made under some general pretence by a state legislature. But if in any blind pursuit of inordinate power, either should attempt it, this amendment may be appealed to as a restraint on both”.
Justice Story, Supreme Court Associate Justice about the Second Amendment wrote:
‘The next amendment is: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facile means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them.’
“The best we can help for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed.” Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8
“The great object is that every man be armed.” and “Everyone who is able may have a gun.” Patrick Henry, American Patriot
“The people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full posession of them.” Zachariah Johnson, Elliot’s Debates, vol. 3 “The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption of the Federal Constitution.”
“To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” Richard Henry Lee, American Statesman, 1788
“… the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms” Philadelphia Federal Gazette, June 18, 1789, Pg. 2, Col. 2 Article on the Bill of Rights
@KansasBright Great. Let me know who the Tennessee sheriff, militia (organized or unorganized) who can walk into the IRS office in Washington, D.C. and retrieve my mandate tax that they will seize from me at gunpoint.
Everything you just described does me not a whit of good to bar the feds from making me pay the penalty tax of 0ba-maocare.
@far2right Get the forms here at this site to get “your” state representatives to nullify or ban Obamacare, NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.
You will need to read your state constitution and fill the information in at the appropriate points. What you will also get from reading it (make sure it is the current version) is what your state reps can and canNOT do.
As far as your sheriffs go, I would send them to the Constitutional Sheriff (cspoa) conventions to learn more about their position under the US Constitution.
@far2right I hate to be the one to break the bad news to you, but Tennessee Plan> State legislature> George Soros ANAI. Tennessee’s lost it’s virginity – and a handful of it’s female residents – to the NSC, my friend, and people there STILL do not know what’s happened!
You’re state’s citizens are living in a Brother’s Grimm fairy tale dreamworld. You folks have HUGE issues with occult rendition in your state, again people oblivious to their circumstances high on the air wafting in from the Smokies and all that forest that surrounds y’all. Wake up, guy. Good grief you are stupid beyond belief.
The plan was to use Tennessee as the national model for economic reform to augment Obama’s HCR. Tandem legislation. Dually effective in collapsing economic infrastructure, and he’s coming back at you his next term. People are fools. The word revolves around you and your silly assed ideas, and it’s being overwhelmed by the NSC in the process. Makes you proud, eh? You narcissistic jerk.
@gypsynovus @far2right
I went to “George Soros ANAI” and found a blogsite which asserts that the Baptist Church is in cahoots with the Vatican to house abducted children being sold into slavery internationally. Because I find that more than ridiculous, I will no longer read anything posted by “gypsynovus”.
@babcicathy @far2right Let’s see. What’s going to work here. Let’s try this.
http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2011/10/has-british-monarchy-been-running.html
If after reading the material on this site you still feel intimidated by reality, I will gladly redirect you to a therapist who can wake you up. You are making an effort, and that’s worth something to those of us who see the light coming on. Try this site. Review some of the material there, particularly the link to Schaefer, then decide. This will change your mind.
@gypsynovus Dooo-dooo-dooo-dooo.
It’s OK to listen to the voices in your head.
But do us a favor and only act on them in the privacy of your own home.
Best of luck to you and all the friends inside you.
@far2right The Tennessee Battle Cry, the Dootle, goes something like this, “Dooo-dooo-dooo-dooo”. Hey, you were just Dootling! You go girl!
@gypsynovus I take it back. Do try not to listen to the voices in your head.
@far2right wrote: “Jeez. Just come out and say it, you love being potheads.”
Seriously? I’m so tired of having to address this ridiculous complaint (and yes, it’s a COMPLAINT as opposed to a principled objection).
First, I certainly don’t use marijuana. Second, why don’t YOU just come out and admit that you only care about enforcing the Constitution when it affects a right YOU happen to care about personally? Better yet, you should dig deep and find the kind of courage that the “potheads” have managed to find, stand up to the Obama administration and exercise the rights you happen to value instead of criticizing those who are actually taking a risk to stand up for the ones THEY happen to value more. At least they have guts.
Instead of acting, you choose to whine that “0ba-mao will still take my tax dollars if I refuse to comply.” Well BOO HOO HOO HOO! The founders sacrificed a lot more than a little tax money. Ask yourself what they would do, then go and do likewise.
Your state has lots of ways protect you from a tyrannical federal government. But people like you focus their energy on criticizing and complaining instead of organizing and pressuring their state officials. If nullification fails in your state, then accept your share of the responsibility and either keep fighting or move to another state where the prospects for liberty are better.
@dereksheriff
The true complaint is your own agreement by lack of knowledge versus the abundance on such a subject and all principled choice has to do with what? Life?
So would you like a star because you do not use a Life plant meant to be used for many reasons? So now you have become the authority by this lack of such knowledge correct? Then what are you looking for agreement into your cause?
Does it really take all this courage you make up in your mind or does it actually take good decision skill? How do all things become cerated and completed? Courage or good choice and activities to deliver?
As for criticizing and lack of actions by groups and many in them I totally agree because so many are stuck on everyone else’s idea instead of investigation versus assumption.
The focus should be solutions, but is nullification the total of the solution and the solution for what? What are we creating a solution for? Isn’t Nullification itself an opposition to who? Tyrants? Which way of life do they exists in, which way of life do they not exist in. Is Liberty present in the same way and dissolved in the other as well?
I have been saying for a few years now our Declaration of Independence holds all the values we need to use every single day but no one ever ask why, never questions if that is even possible and then turns around and tells me they are the solution but carry no basis of such, it is amusing at best.
But you go ahead and call everybody else names in an attempt to make them look bad so what you may look good? Is there some solution in this concept? So we are all of the sudden pot heads and you hold the whole of all knowledge and authority I take it?
I have sacrificed a massive amount of time and research and activities so my founders have not one thing on me, in fact I found them as able as I and me as able as them, meaning they were no more capable than you or I so stop already. If they were so god like show me the results that substantiates everything this did provided no other lessons. Its funny how some only THINK they hold some key, yet they cannot find the lock to open. So if you are speaking from your own experience then I get it, I am certainly speaking from mine. Criticalness has always been a true sign of the ignorance, maybe you should investigate that statement. We must value one another as we value ourselves or there is no value of respect at all. Solutions are found from participation and investigations and not by someone weird view. The ability to listen is the biggest part of participating because it is hard to investigate ideas if you never hear them. Also there is no one life knows all concept because the tyrants have already dominated this concept and look at those results.
There is LIFE and when each in life participate in our own support what kind of support do we give ourselves? If we recreate Liberty in this country once again by our constitution and application of through nullification will be because we understand exactly what we are challenging for and not because we are critical of each other. When do we focus on what we are, when do we focus on which way of life we choose? How can you live no way of life? Is that a way of life? Doesn’t way indicate a direction, so which direction is this?
So please share with me your knowledge, suggestions and forget your criticalness and let us work together, participate with one another and deliver to US the various parts needed to create this whole of what ever that is, what is it?
@dereksheriff ”First, I certainly don’t use marijuana.”
Judging by your note, I say that you are a dopehead and it has severely reduced your IQ.
So, let me break it down in the most simple manner so that even you can understand, even without putting your bong down.
No serious minded libertarian is taking the nullification movement seriously so long as the focus is pot. Since potheads are now the poster children for liberty and nullification we will never win over most Tea Partyers and especially conservatives. This is a stupid strategy.
Secondly, the THCF Act WAS spawned by our nullification movement. My rant was that no teeth were put into the supposed law. The law has all the force of a state resolution.
Nowhere did I say I was laying down arms, giving up and curling into a fetal position. It is your stupidity that invented that.
What I am trying to get threw that pot induced fog of yours is that we are not that bright. And we need to learn a lesson from this Tennessee experiment.
I suppose this is attributable to all the pot going around.
@dereksheriff BTW Einstein, since you did not notice, we in the Knoxville Tea Party are the sole reason why Tennessee may not initiate a state run exchange. It is the Tea Party, not the 10th AC leading this fight. Hopefully we will prevail, but it is an uphill battle, even with a super majority of ill informed Republicans.
It would be great if the 10th AC was more than a thought-tank and would join in the fight in a meaningful, tangible manner.
Drop the pot agenda and do something useful.
If you do this then you will win over super-conservative Tea Partyers (not just rebellious kids).
@far2right nope. will you ever stop being a constitution-hating jerk? probably not either.
@Michael Boldin Will you ever do anything more constructive than fight for your right to get stoned?
Here we are about to lose our inalienable right to keep and bear arms against a tyrannical general government and all you seem to care about is ditch weed.
I’ve been asking for weeks now if the TAC is crafting model legislation for states to make it a felony for any federal agent to violate the 2nd Amendment protection. I’d like to get this before my representative. So far the TAC has only put forth language to protect firearms and ammo made and used in a respective state. This is very narrow in scope and near useless.
How about directing me to someone in the TAC who gives a damn about the right to keep and bear arms and I will happily dispense with you?
@far2right a) don’t be a jerk to me in my house, dude. you’re banned from commenting.
b) legislation is there and we’ve been promoting it for a while - http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendmentpreservation – have your rep add the penalties.
@Michael Boldin @far2right I see the 1st Amendment is alive and well at the TAC.
Go eff yourself.
Don’t forget Madison’s Report of 1800, a couple of years later, in which he expanded upon his earlier resolution, and explicitly stated that the Supreme Court is susceptible to corruption and power-grabbing, just like the other branches.
And hey, TenthAmendment Center: I’m going to keep telling you this until you get off it and get a decent comment system: I *STILL* can’t log in using my Firefox browser. I got it working in Chrome and Safari, but still no go with Firefox. The login window pops up then instantly goes away. Even with all script blockers and everything like that turned off.
AND… this is also an important point: for a site that is supposed to love freedom and privacy, it sure does host a lot of scripts that track users! According to my Do Not Track application, you have NO LESS THAN 11 DIFFERENT TRACKERS on this site. They are:
1. Twitter Badge
2. Facebook Connect
3. Google “+1″
4. LinkedIn
5. Hellobar
6. AddThis
7. ShareThis
8. Google Analytics
9. GetSatisfaction
10. Quantcast
11. Comscore Beacon.
Don’t let anybody tell you that these scripts don’t track users: they do. I am a professional web developer, I have used many of them myself, and I know exactly how they work. (I should qualify that: I do not use them unless a client expressly asks for them, and even then I try to talk them out of it.)
think most of this was overturned when Nat Guard took over University from George Wallace- does not make it right
@akble Don’t misunderstand what I’m going to say here. I consider government mandated segregation to be immoral and unjust. However, the fact that the US Gov stepped in and used military force to compel a state to do something didn’t overturn anything. Just as legality does not establish morality, military victories do not establish constitutionality, legality or morality either.
@akble That was an exercise in Communitarian “mission creep”. Most domestic false flag terrorism is.
We have to make those calls . Speak up people
It’s time for a repeal of the 17th Amendment!
yea, your calls will mean so much.i can’t believe how many don’t see the gigantic writing on the wall.
Yes we do but which one do you think we will get ?
you can call but won’t get an answer
Yes because they listen and care what we think..
amen ! intervene before govt kills the patient> govt in denial too long !
Calls to your STATE and LOCAL folks, right Brian Boyer? Because that’s how to nullify.
It’s time for a revolution.
I agree revolution
The States agreed to allow the federal government to exist under the terms of the contract we call the Constitution, but now the federal government refuses to honor the contract and with each unConstitutional act nullifies the very instrument by which it exists. It is DEFINITELY time for the States to act!
I agree.
it is time for a real revolution
Nullify, nullify, nullify!
Yeah, time to nullify D.C……………….
Perhaps you might consider my solution. Instead of just calling my State Senator and Representative in addition I contact the Senate and House leaders, and any and all Senators or Representatives listed as authors on bills I support or oppose. I realize this is time consuming but just contact as many as you can. Also send e-mails and ask questions, don’t just call to complain or support ask why and what you can do to assist.
They don’t give a shite about us. They’ve been bought and paid for and have won the gravy train lottery for their future. Believe me their retirement isn’t anything like ours.
Or also thank those who support…
Its time to kick there ass out of office!!
Intervention to get the Drug Runners out of our Government business!
It’s time for BOTH !
e-mail then they send back a bunch of bull with their own agenda on it anyway. Probably automaticly. But I’m flooding them anyway.