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	<title>Comments on: On Repealing the 17th Amendment Part II: Dissent</title>
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		<title>By: Dm Rooney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dm Rooney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With this I must disagree....your argument for nullification included examples of how the STATES accomplished nullification.  While true that the repeal of the 17th amendment via Article V is not the be all, end all, only a beginning, it IS that, a beginning.  Accomplishing the repeal of the 17th amendment via the state legislatures, in my humble opinion, would give momentum for other changes, like the elimination of the Department of Education, and possibly the consolidation or elimination of others, in its wake.  Like rats jumping ship, once the momentum swings toward the states, Senators will follow the life rafts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With this I must disagree&#8230;.your argument for nullification included examples of how the STATES accomplished nullification.  While true that the repeal of the 17th amendment via Article V is not the be all, end all, only a beginning, it IS that, a beginning.  Accomplishing the repeal of the 17th amendment via the state legislatures, in my humble opinion, would give momentum for other changes, like the elimination of the Department of Education, and possibly the consolidation or elimination of others, in its wake.  Like rats jumping ship, once the momentum swings toward the states, Senators will follow the life rafts.</p>
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		<title>By: TonyStephens</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonyStephens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The potential gains are incalculable. Would any Senator hasve proposed the NDAA, let alone vote for it, if their State could unceremoniously yank them back home and fire them with a vote of their legislature?
 
The 17th Amendment was needed to concentrate political power in the parties (what our founders called Factions, and warned us against)
 
The federal Reserve would not exist, Neither would we have had the New Deal, the Great Society, Revenue Sharing or ObamaCare.
 
The Sovietization of America is only possible because the States have no Representation in Washington, but are forced to stand in line with other Lobbyists to gain attention.  Direct Representation was served by the creation of the House of Representatives, and State Representation established with the creation of the Senate.
 
There is no more worthy fight than the one to restore the States as the political force which DELEGATES power to the federal government. All of our current ills stem from the 17th amendment, and can be cured by its repeal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The potential gains are incalculable. Would any Senator hasve proposed the NDAA, let alone vote for it, if their State could unceremoniously yank them back home and fire them with a vote of their legislature?<br />
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The 17th Amendment was needed to concentrate political power in the parties (what our founders called Factions, and warned us against)<br />
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The federal Reserve would not exist, Neither would we have had the New Deal, the Great Society, Revenue Sharing or ObamaCare.<br />
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The Sovietization of America is only possible because the States have no Representation in Washington, but are forced to stand in line with other Lobbyists to gain attention.  Direct Representation was served by the creation of the House of Representatives, and State Representation established with the creation of the Senate.<br />
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There is no more worthy fight than the one to restore the States as the political force which DELEGATES power to the federal government. All of our current ills stem from the 17th amendment, and can be cured by its repeal.</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy Lynne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 06:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gerrymandering</p>
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		<title>By: Markie Balentine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markie Balentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bob Greenslade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Greenslade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the Massachusetts Ratifying Convention in 1788, Mr. Ames made the following statement concerning the original method of electing the members to the Senate and the consequences if the people elected them:
 
“But whom, in that case, would they represent? Not the legislatures of the states, but the people. This would totally obliterate the federal features of the Constitution. What would become of the state governments, and on whom would devolve the duty of defending them against the encroachment of the federal Government? A consolidation of the states would ensue, which, it is conceded, would subvert the new Constitution, and against which this very article, so much condemned, is our best security. Too much provision cannot be made against a consolidation. The state governments represent the wishes, and feelings, and local interests, of the people. They are the safeguard and ornament of the Constitution; they will protract the period of our liberties; they will afford a shelter against the abuse of power, and will be the natural avengers of our violated rights.”
 
During debate on the proposed constitution in the North Carolina Ratifying Convention, William Davie stated:
 
“The next department is the Senate. How is it formed? By the states themselves. Do they not choose them? Are they not created by them? And will they not have the interests of the states particularly at heart? The states, sir, can put a final period to the government… If the state legislatures think proper, they may refuse to choose senators, and the government must be destroyed.” 
 
As stated by Mr. Davie, the authority to appoint members of the Senate gave the States the ultimate power of nullification.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Massachusetts Ratifying Convention in 1788, Mr. Ames made the following statement concerning the original method of electing the members to the Senate and the consequences if the people elected them:<br />
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“But whom, in that case, would they represent? Not the legislatures of the states, but the people. This would totally obliterate the federal features of the Constitution. What would become of the state governments, and on whom would devolve the duty of defending them against the encroachment of the federal Government? A consolidation of the states would ensue, which, it is conceded, would subvert the new Constitution, and against which this very article, so much condemned, is our best security. Too much provision cannot be made against a consolidation. The state governments represent the wishes, and feelings, and local interests, of the people. They are the safeguard and ornament of the Constitution; they will protract the period of our liberties; they will afford a shelter against the abuse of power, and will be the natural avengers of our violated rights.”<br />
 <br />
During debate on the proposed constitution in the North Carolina Ratifying Convention, William Davie stated:<br />
 <br />
“The next department is the Senate. How is it formed? By the states themselves. Do they not choose them? Are they not created by them? And will they not have the interests of the states particularly at heart? The states, sir, can put a final period to the government… If the state legislatures think proper, they may refuse to choose senators, and the government must be destroyed.” <br />
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As stated by Mr. Davie, the authority to appoint members of the Senate gave the States the ultimate power of nullification.</p>
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		<title>By: News and Video Roundup &#8211; 9/1/12 &#171; RubinoWorld</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 12:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: On Repealing the 17th Amendment Part II: Dissent &#8211; Florida Tenth Amendment Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Repealing the 17th Amendment Part II: Dissent &#8211; Florida Tenth Amendment Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<dc:creator>Save Yourself: Quit Politics &#171; economicharmonies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2012 01:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: On Repealing the 17th Amendment Part II: Dissent &#124; Libertarios of America</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Repealing the 17th Amendment Part II: Dissent &#124; Libertarios of America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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