Comments on: Free at Last! Martin Luther King and Nullification

By: Krugman, ThinkProgress. As Dangerous as it Gets – Tenth Amendment Center

Krugman, ThinkProgress. As Dangerous as it Gets – Tenth Amendment Center — Thu, 02 Aug 2012 02:09:22 +0000

[...] 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. gave a us better idea. In his “Letter from Birmingham Jail” – while denouncing the Alabama Governor for [...]

By: EdwardNilges

EdwardNilges — Wed, 09 May 2012 06:08:12 +0000

@onetenther @Patrick Henry Lives Do you know any socialists personally?

By: EdwardNilges

EdwardNilges — Wed, 09 May 2012 04:15:58 +0000

@onetenther So? This doesn’t give them any Constitutional rights.

By: EdwardNilges

EdwardNilges — Wed, 09 May 2012 04:14:10 +0000

@Patrick Henry Lives Yes, we are free in the sense we can as Spartacus; this is Hobbes and Locke’s doctrine of “natural rights in the state of nature” which the Founders knew of. We always have the right to resist authority as Christ did when he refused to cooperate with Pilate and make a pro-forma statement that “Hadrian is a God”.Unfortunately, a Sovereign can always disobey the Constitution and stick it to us, whether in retaliation or because the Sovereign feels like it.But Tenthers want more: they want the rights of Nullification and Secesh to be affirmed as a law, and this is bullshit because no law can say “if you don’t like this law do not obey it”.They grew up with white privilege and feel unmanned by a new world and want reaffirmation by means of Nullification.Yes you have the right at all times to rebel whether nonviolently like Christ or violently as did the Founders. But “to live outside the law you must be honest” (Dylan). Insofar as you’re Secesh, you Nullify, you resist you must accept as a matter of fact as did King that the Sovereign will nail your ass in retaliation.The problem with Tea Bags and Nullifiers is that as lower middle class authoritarians they basically, unlike Occupy, have too much respect for Authority to fight the power and INSTEAD they have a nasty tendency to kick people down the black and the brown. Which is why using Dr King is nauseating. Big man OPPOSED Nullification which was used by RACISTS.

By: onetenther

onetenther — Wed, 09 May 2012 03:43:19 +0000

@EdwardNilges Where did you get that from?

By: onetenther

onetenther — Wed, 09 May 2012 03:41:27 +0000

@EdwardNilges @Patrick Henry Lives Do you or do you not agree that a daughter should willing participate in incest? You seem to avoid the entire question completely by babling about things that have no real point to them at all. THe point that pat was making that authority has limits and those limits are exactly when that authority no longer benefits that person.

By: onetenther

onetenther — Wed, 09 May 2012 03:37:35 +0000

How can you say the United States isn’t a christian country when the dominant and most practiced religion is christianity. It is pretty obvious that the law does not favor one religion over the other nor does it prevent someone from practicing any religion that they choose. It seems like a great many individual either choose to practice christianity in this country.

By: onetenther

onetenther — Wed, 09 May 2012 03:34:59 +0000

@EdwardNilges @Patrick Henry Lives Most socialist have to pretend to be something more favorable in order to push their ideas through. They abandoned the label yet still spout the same ideas.

By: Patrick Henry Lives

Patrick Henry Lives — Wed, 09 May 2012 02:21:04 +0000

@EdwardNilges If the right to rebel is determined by the “context of the times” prohibited only because “resistance would be suicide”, then when the context of the times counsels otherwise, or where not to resist would be suicide, then by your definition we are free to follow our conscience and resist or rebel. Thanks for making my case for me!

By: Patrick Henry Lives

Patrick Henry Lives — Wed, 09 May 2012 02:16:16 +0000

@EdwardNilges WRONG! The Constitution reserves to the People and States the right to decide local issues of religion and establishment. The States have ALWAYS been competent to establish churches, fund them with taxes, pay for printing of Bibles, make belief in the Trinity or Christianity a condition of holding elective office, etc. Just read your history and you will find that the states all had laws of the sort described. The prohibitions of the 1st Amendment only apply to Congress: “Congress shall make no law.” Not one word restricts the States and People from deciding local issues of religion and morality for themselves. Indeed, the Tenth Amendment guarantees them that right! It is only by turning the prohibitions of the Bill of Rights back against the State via the 14th amendment and the phony judge created doctrine of “substantive due process” that the States have been robbed of the right to decide local issues for themselves.