Can the president kill an American simply because the person is dangerous and his arrest would be impractical? Can the president be judge, jury and executioner of an American in a foreign country because he believes that would keep America safe? Can Congress authorize the president to do this?
Earlier this week, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder attempted to justify presidential killing in a speech at Northwestern University law school. In it, he recognized the requirement of the Fifth Amendment for due process. He argued that the president may substitute the traditionally understood due process – a public jury trial – with the president’s own novel version of it; that would be a secret deliberation about killing. Without mentioning the name of the American the president recently ordered killed, Holder suggested that the president’s careful consideration of the case of New Mexico-born Anwar al-Awlaki constituted a substituted form of due process.
Holder argued that the act of reviewing al-Awlaki’s alleged crimes, what he was doing in Yemen and the imminent danger he posed provided al-Awlaki with a substituted form of due process. He did not mention how this substitution applied to al-Awlaki’s 16-year-old son and a family friend, who were also executed by CIA drones. And he did not address the utter absence of any support in the Constitution or Supreme Court case law for his novel theory.
The Fifth Amendment to the Constitution states that the government may not take the life, liberty or property of any person without due process. Due process has numerous components, too numerous to address here, but the essence of it is “substantive fairness” and a “settled fair procedure.” Under due process, when the government wants your life, liberty or property, the government must show that it is entitled to what it seeks by articulating the law it says you have violated and then proving its case in public to a neutral jury. And you may enjoy all the constitutional protections to defend yourself. Without the requirement of due process, nothing would prevent the government from taking anything it coveted or killing anyone – American or foreign – it hated or feared.
The killing of al-Awlaki and the others was without any due process whatsoever, and that should terrify all Americans. The federal government has not claimed the lawful power to kill Americans without due process since the Civil War; even then, the power to kill was claimed only in actual combat. Al-Awlaki and his son were killed while they were driving in a car in the desert. The Supreme Court has consistently ruled that the Constitution applies in war and in peace. Even the Nazi soldiers and sailors who were arrested in Amagansett, N.Y., and in Ponte Vedra Beach, Fla., during World War II were entitled to a trial.
The legal authority in which Holder claimed to find support was the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (AUMF), which was enacted by Congress in the days following 9/11. That statute permits the president to use force to repel those who planned and plotted 9/11 and who continue to plan and plot the use of terror tactics to assault the United States. Holder argued in his speech that arresting al-Awlaki – who has never been indicted or otherwise charged with a crime but who is believed to have encouraged terrorist attacks in the U.S. – would have been impractical, that killing him was the only option available to prevent him from committing more harm, and that Congress must have contemplated that when it enacted the AUMF.
Even if Holder is correct – that Congress contemplated presidential killing of Americans without due process when it enacted the AUMF – such a delegation of power is not Congress’ to give. Congress is governed by the same Constitution that restrains the president. It can no more authorize the president to avoid due process than it can authorize him to extend his term in office beyond four years.
Instead of presenting evidence of al-Awlaki’s alleged crimes to a grand jury and seeking an indictment and an arrest and a trial, the president presented the evidence to a small group of unnamed advisers, and then he secretly decided that al-Awlaki was such an imminent threat to America 10,000 miles away that he had to be killed. This is logic more worthy of Joseph Stalin than Thomas Jefferson. It effectively says that the president is above the Constitution and the rule of law, and that he can reject his oath to uphold both.
If the president can kill an American in Yemen, can he do so in Peoria? Even the British king, from whose tyrannical grasp the American colonists seceded, did not claim such powers. And we fought a Revolution against him.
Andrew P. Napolitano [send him mail], a former judge of the Superior Court of New Jersey, is the senior judicial analyst at the Fox News Channel. His latest books are Lies the Government Told You: Myth, Power, and Deception in American History, (Nelson, 2010), and his newest release, It is Dangerous to be Right When the Government is Wrong: The Case for Personal Freedom.
Copyright © 2012 Andrew P. Napolitano









@RonPaul_2012 the president should not have the legal power to kill with out due process, nor can war be declared with out congressional ok.
@RonPaul_2012 Nope.
The President couldn’t kill me if he tried.
@RonPaul_2012 Nope.
The President couldn’t kill me if he tried.
@libertyideals I bet ‘es gut u butter chunce thun mmee…. yoo numba uppa yoo ded’a lik;a dat ‘bitch…
Mr. Napolitano sure made this a clear picture and what it does is clearly represent a corrupt corporate Government intent on its own agenda outside our Constitution. This line is very clearly crossed and now it shall become our duty to regroup. I suggest a very in depth understanding of the Declaration of Independence as the guide book on this activity and then an understanding how this may be brought about. Its not magic that changes this course, it is good knowledge, good choices and a strong foundation to build on. Its time we get really motivated on the activities of our future. Its not too late because we are still alive to decide and as long as this is the case it can be what ever we make it. There is not a visual concept that was not put here by choice folks and you really don’t need to be a scientist to review this statement. All creations are done so by choice, its what we put into our choices that allows the concept to take place. If you have a clear picture a clear visual will take place, when it is not clear the results will not be clear either.
Our Government has fully over stepped its bounds and is not in compliance with our Constitution rules and for this reason we must reconstruct and new one. The Declaration of INDEPENDENCE is very clear on this statement and the Constitution merely supports this concept entirely.
It is up to us to get this and make the right choices to support our idea of this country which is? A Republic folks.
Let me see if I have this straight. Government passes a law granting government the authority to order an American killed without following constitutional mandates, but if that same American were to mention, while drinking at a bar, that a government official should be killed for usurpations of power under the Constitution, government claims the authority under the Constitution to investigate and prosecute the individual for violations of the law.
Looks like Joseph Stalin’s minions are alive and well and running the federal government.
This “president” of ours is a tyrant in training. I am scared to think what will happen if he is seriously behind in the polls in November — my money is on martial law and cancellation of the election, based upon some trumped up “national emergency.”
We need to take back our country now before it is too late…it’s almost too late now, that’s what is scary!
We are immortal until God is finished with us.
we are all fucked. let them shoot me first please
While he holds the office, he is not the President, he is the Usurper-in-chief.
Yes he can. Andrew Breitbart comes to mind.
Happened to Vince Foster during the Clintoon administration, and the Muslim in chief has ever farther reaching powers.
Pitiful example of “defending the Constitution”.
no he cant!!! but his goons can try!!!
As much as I hate this, what worries me even more is wondering what plans they have for us that makes them think they need this kind of power over us.
Perhaps, but I will take a few of them with me.
um…. are you taking the position that the Civil War was illegal? Of course, in this forum, you probably are.
@David Yes, I fear you are correct!
I would hope that in the worst case scenario, that our military would refuse orders to fire upon our U.S. citizens. We do not want a Tiananmen Square here.
They fight FOR OUR freedoms…not for the rights of politicians to violate our rights.
The recent uganda video that went viral is an indication. Already obabma has sent troops there without even telling Congress why. He also is asking the military for more black soldiers in the special forces division. This the way dictators are made……he wins approval for getting rid of this thug and all the millions that have seen this video appauld and elect him. Unless they are taught the truth that the president of Uganda is just as bad as Kony in the video and OIL has been discovered. Also, Kony was run off in 2005 and is most likely already dead.
This is a very dangerous time for all of us, so watch your back and keep yoiur eyes peeled.
Obama is the messiah, all HAIL THE KING.
Imagine if the special forcess he has sent to Africa actually capture this Joseph Kony of the now famous viral video. We will be hit in Nov by an avalanche. There is already a problem with the Latinos, they never have understood our form of freedom anyway.
That hope and change thing worked. Now we are all hoping that in 2012, we can change it back to when we had the liberties guaranteed by the constitution….I mean the president’s floor mat.
No, once the King says his power over his subjects includes whether they live or die he becomes like Assad in Syria who is condemned by the King himself
There are many things our current gubment does that never would have been considered by King George. Whats one more usurpation among friends?
Obama can do anything he wants cause he’s special and his minions will make sure of it!
Obama can do anything he wants cause he’s special and his minions will make sure of it!
Andrew Breitbart was killed, wasn’t he?
Andrew Breitbart was killed, wasn’t he?
Yes Toni, he was killed!
Isn’t this a suspension of Habeas corpus? Yeah, we saw how well that worked out during the UnCivil War…Anyway, made a graphic illustrating Presidential suspension of Habeas Corpus in the United States. Check it out at: http://missouritenth.com/?p=1303&preview=true
@Leftpalm @Judgenap all signs point to Yes. We need to see the OLC memo; as citizens subject to execution, we deserve to know
It’s not at all our government that has so heiniously “crossed over the line into criminal misconduct”…though it is criminal corruption that has so pervasively permeated our inherently innocent goverment.
This criminal corruption that has pervasively infiltrated our government has also, as wolves in sheeps clothing, set itself within our corporations, hospitals,churches, schools, courts,police forces, armies and navies, and just about every other identity/position of directory/administrative power that in and of themselves innocently exist for a truely greater good and mutual benefit. That infiltraton of these innocent identities by that which is subtley and heinously corrupt does not in any way make guilty that which is innocent. America and all that which is truely American is inherently and naturaly innocent of the nature of that which it is. Domestic tranquility being a complete and peaceful (tranquil) absence of angry behaviour is a great basis for a truely moral, ethical, innocent nation and nations citizen government….inherently innocent.
The spirit of murder/terrorism is far more dangerous in it’s subtlety than it is in it’s outright brutality.
YES Judge Napolitano,Our treasonous presiDUNCE is working to that end as fast as he can,without stirring up too much suspicion too quickly. Barack Obama,the worlds most prolific LIAR and venomous SNAKE is almost ready to strike AGAIN AND AGAIN !He has done more,on purpose,to destroy our America,than ALL the presidents before him did accidently !
Never heard of 007, license to kill?
Tell your Congressman to support H.Con.Res.107 (Articles of Impeachment)
Decisions are everywhere, some good and some very bad but consistently across the board does Government make far more poor choice over good choice. It is truly the Financiers dream state of corrupt by making it look RICH and powerful with DEBT. Power and authority corrupts and all who decide to be this power and this authority have become this by choice.
The idea is broadcast this way;
LOOK at me I am powerful (totally corrupt) and limits Life.
Versus
LOOK at this achievement and how is sustains our communities as Republics and promotes Life.
One is irrational decisions and the other very rational choice making and since not one idea comes to be with such a choice it is good to look at what we put into such choices.
The Declaration of Independence is rational choice making.
The Declaration of Rule by Finance has no rationality and is the wrong choice. Deliberately making this choice is what Rule wants to corrupt you. Because they also know not one things takes place without choice and they together are focused on their agenda, you in their debt.
How many of us who choose good choice are focused on our Declaration of Independence as a viable choice with a Constitution that supports Liberty in Republics.
Again poor choices are made every day, maybe we should look at our own decisions and change these to fit the desired idea or continue the effects of very poor choices.
Decisions are everywhere, some good and some very bad but consistently across the board does Government make far more poor choice over good choice. It is truly the Financiers dream state of corrupt by making it look RICH and powerful with DEBT. Power and authority corrupts and all who decide to be this power and this authority have become this by choice.
The idea is broadcast this way;
LOOK at me I am powerful (totally corrupt) and limits Life.
Versus
LOOK at this achievement and how is sustains our communities as Republics and promotes Life.
One is irrational decisions and the other very rational choice making and since not one idea comes to be without such a choice it is good to look at what we put into such choices.
The Declaration of Independence is rational choice making.
The Declaration of Rule by Finance has no rationality and is the wrong choice. Deliberately making this choice is what Rule wants to corrupt you. Because they also know not one things takes place without choice and they together are focused on their agenda, you in their debt.
How many of us who choose good choice are focused on our Declaration of Independence as a viable choice with a Constitution that supports Liberty in Republics.
Again poor choices are made every day, maybe we should look at our own decisions and change these to fit the desired idea or continue the effects of very poor choices.
Anybody who hasn’t heard of it, look up “The Battle of Athens”… It shows why our 2nd Amendment rights are sooooooooooooooo vital, and why the DHS has added returning vets to their proposed “right wing extremist” list….
@banter2345
This is only pure proof A Republic did not exist and that Democracy was promoted and the difference is PUBLIC meeting of discussion and displays of proof which is a Republic way of life. The informed then make informed choice in the voting station. Democracy is a perverted word by its definitions and one definition almost always gets mixed with the other definition intentionally.
Though these military men from the war helped to stand up because they were sure of what they were fighting for, the preservation of their way of life as A Republic with Liberty fully included, when liberty is gone so is the Republic way of life. But the public way is community meetings in discussion of its sustaining practices, other wise it becomes politicians and their way of made up false authority over such a Public. Many of these instances and very valuable lessons are to evaluate and discuss for future choices and viability.
I just recently posted a video (reinactment) of “The Battle of Athens”. Perhaps, if you would Google it, you might be able to find it. I hadn’t heard of it before & it was most interesting & educational.
@banter2345 Thanks for sharing that – I put a post up at Missouri Tenth on it. Check it out and let me know if I missed anything! http://missouritenth.com/2012/03/12/battle-of-athens-reveals-value-in-right-to-bear-arms/
@banter2345 Thank you for talking about the Battle of Athens. I’d never heard of such a thing, looked it up, and was very pleased to read this.
He will send a couple of his ANTI-AMERICAN HIT MEN to do it because in their eyes ALL AMERICANS ARE TERRORIST EXCEPT THE REAL TERRORIST, THEM!
So, if I am member of a group that is out to kill Americans, I can not be killed by americans.
Please view / search “OathKeepers.org”….Will probably lift your Hope / Spirits.
@Thingk43 We’re also working on the Missouri Constitutional Sheriff (which utilizes many of the same ideas that OathKeepers and Sheriff Mack’s Constitutional Sheriff Program). Take a look if you’d like to see how to implement a similar program in your state – or if you’d like to use some of the materials. http://www.missouritenth.com/mcs
A quick lesson in democracy;.. 3 chickens, 2 rabbits, 5 birds,7 humans, 4 worms and 11 wolves decided to meet and have a democratic vote (majority rules) on whats next for breakfast. At the next meeting for lunch the worms were not there and the chickens looked somewhat 4 worms fatter. Again at the next meeting they were missing, for the vote, the 2 rabbits. Then the same at the next meeting…there were no voting chickens and the worms were noticed to be flavoring the chicken meat. 5 birds were next noticed to be missing then 7 humans. The wolves began devouring one another.
Moral of story?….Get your stinking democracy out of our Republic.
Did the president have Breitbart murdered?
Bloody Barry is the first serial killer President. Congrats to Barry for his highly esteemed place in American history.