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	<title>Comments on: Libertarian Centralizers: As Bad as the Other Kind?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Kenyon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Kenyon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen  Larry M.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen  Larry M.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a constitutional Libertarian as well; &#039;D&#039;s, R&#039;s, L&#039;s, CP&#039;s&#039; and all other parties need to be wary of falling into the trap of doing big, centralized government better; the goal is less federal, centralized govt., and more state &amp; local govt. as the founders envisioned it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a constitutional Libertarian as well; &#8216;D&#8217;s, R&#8217;s, L&#8217;s, CP&#8217;s&#8217; and all other parties need to be wary of falling into the trap of doing big, centralized government better; the goal is less federal, centralized govt., and more state &amp; local govt. as the founders envisioned it</p>
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		<title>By: LittleBiggyGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>LittleBiggyGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without coercive governments, people would remain un-numbered, un-licensed, and un-taxed.

www.taxkilla.com]]></description>
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		<title>By: LauraC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 10:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Smaller government, decentralization and control over budgets and spending locally is the way forward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smaller government, decentralization and control over budgets and spending locally is the way forward.</p>
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		<title>By: lg_ink</title>
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		<dc:creator>lg_ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 04:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: purple_persuader</title>
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		<dc:creator>purple_persuader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 02:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Libertarian centralizer is an oxymoron, nuff said.]]></description>
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		<title>By: lg_ink</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lg_ink</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: lg_ink</title>
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		<title>By: WilliamSchooler</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Ivan,

 

             This is a great example of the idea of Libertarian as emphasis on Liberty as a freedom. My argument with libertarians is the inconsistency especially in an economics view on property rights. I think it misses the whole basis of liberty. And to interpret the Privilege Immunities Clause by this idea could certainly be interpreted in such a manner.

 

 

But lets take what this country is founded on and what truly gives all these ideas emphasis as the idea of A Republic as a chosen way of life. With the idea of Life, the idea of Liberty to back this life and our pursuits to support this life and really means my community and my choices to support life in this community. As life I do not need a permission slip to have rights I have inalienable rights in being born, I have to have the idea of Liberty to do the acts of freeing my self from some who are consistently attempting to stomp on my inalienable rights. My standing my decision to pursue my Republic or my community and its sustainment. These ideas are to be lived and acted upon because we are certain of the direction it supports.

 

Liberty is not my right to freedom or property or any of these things, it is simply my freedom to live without Government interfering, state or federal period. This would include local Government as well and in governing bodies to enforce liberty or hold liberty in place and those liable who do not.

 

The constitution now becomes the compliance of Government as limits to UPHOLD liberty and not one thing short of it. Since in truth we are life in communities versus citizens of the United States which they would like us to believe they hold such an authority. But lucky for me my Declaration of Independence trumps the manipulation done to the 14th Amendment.

 

Federal Government is limited by states and states limited by municipalities the communities which is the people in life form capable of ideas and decisions upon our own over our Governments poor authority.

 

The struggle really becomes the lack of knowledge of our own foundation as it was written as ideas to be used in support of Life and the way in which it chooses. In this country A Republic form of life was chosen and this is the idea I plan to deliver come hell or high water, but this is because I am certain of my Foundation the Declaration of Independence from those who were attempting to do acts of tyranny or stomp on my Inalienable rights and for this reason the Constitution was brought to be to assure Liberty is kept in place by limits spelled out in my constitution regardless what the idiots express.

 

The main point becomes Life, the way in which this idea is delivered is in Republic form and these are the acts of support the people do because they are certain of their ideas they have chosen to live and if they have not as of yet better get busy because people are stepping on our Constitution and crushing my Liberty which is dissolving my Republic for which I may act in practices of sustaining.

 

I know people will go “thats insane” and I will go show me the ideas I share are not what I have only explained. Why is it I am certain and you are not? Could it be I am correct about such ideas?

 

What I am not is a reciter nor and symbolizer in some doctrine sense. I live them every single day as though these ideas are my own and I have no confusions in my decisions to do so. Living out the ideas of A Republic, of Life, Liberty and my pursuits for happiness. My property, that which I produce only in idea and bring into existence or by others ideas I produce in exchange for such a service. Since all ideas are something we produce if we wish to experience them and not all exchange is monetary value which has no value without me performing some act. My actions towards a Republic is effort and this achieved is what? Community and Limited Government? I better get my buns cooking then shouldn’t I. First you better catch up to me because I don’t like being all alone. Before you go thinking I am some arrogant idiot, go back and attempt to understand everything I wrote while sitting in your own mirror.

 

Sometimes we should put far more energy into our focus versus the bad ideas taking our energy away, why do you think they create so many? To keep you from focusing on your ideas. Please tell me you want A Republic way of life, it is a choice after all and by training you have already been acting on their idea as rule and that hasn’t turned out so well has it? But don’t let it be said there is no good lessons in screw ups, there very much is if we are willing to learn them.

 

 

When you are ready lets focus our energy in one united direction and I will let you see what you did when we are done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ivan,</p>
<p>             This is a great example of the idea of Libertarian as emphasis on Liberty as a freedom. My argument with libertarians is the inconsistency especially in an economics view on property rights. I think it misses the whole basis of liberty. And to interpret the Privilege Immunities Clause by this idea could certainly be interpreted in such a manner.</p>
<p>But lets take what this country is founded on and what truly gives all these ideas emphasis as the idea of A Republic as a chosen way of life. With the idea of Life, the idea of Liberty to back this life and our pursuits to support this life and really means my community and my choices to support life in this community. As life I do not need a permission slip to have rights I have inalienable rights in being born, I have to have the idea of Liberty to do the acts of freeing my self from some who are consistently attempting to stomp on my inalienable rights. My standing my decision to pursue my Republic or my community and its sustainment. These ideas are to be lived and acted upon because we are certain of the direction it supports.</p>
<p>Liberty is not my right to freedom or property or any of these things, it is simply my freedom to live without Government interfering, state or federal period. This would include local Government as well and in governing bodies to enforce liberty or hold liberty in place and those liable who do not.</p>
<p>The constitution now becomes the compliance of Government as limits to UPHOLD liberty and not one thing short of it. Since in truth we are life in communities versus citizens of the United States which they would like us to believe they hold such an authority. But lucky for me my Declaration of Independence trumps the manipulation done to the 14th Amendment.</p>
<p>Federal Government is limited by states and states limited by municipalities the communities which is the people in life form capable of ideas and decisions upon our own over our Governments poor authority.</p>
<p>The struggle really becomes the lack of knowledge of our own foundation as it was written as ideas to be used in support of Life and the way in which it chooses. In this country A Republic form of life was chosen and this is the idea I plan to deliver come hell or high water, but this is because I am certain of my Foundation the Declaration of Independence from those who were attempting to do acts of tyranny or stomp on my Inalienable rights and for this reason the Constitution was brought to be to assure Liberty is kept in place by limits spelled out in my constitution regardless what the idiots express.</p>
<p>The main point becomes Life, the way in which this idea is delivered is in Republic form and these are the acts of support the people do because they are certain of their ideas they have chosen to live and if they have not as of yet better get busy because people are stepping on our Constitution and crushing my Liberty which is dissolving my Republic for which I may act in practices of sustaining.</p>
<p>I know people will go “thats insane” and I will go show me the ideas I share are not what I have only explained. Why is it I am certain and you are not? Could it be I am correct about such ideas?</p>
<p>What I am not is a reciter nor and symbolizer in some doctrine sense. I live them every single day as though these ideas are my own and I have no confusions in my decisions to do so. Living out the ideas of A Republic, of Life, Liberty and my pursuits for happiness. My property, that which I produce only in idea and bring into existence or by others ideas I produce in exchange for such a service. Since all ideas are something we produce if we wish to experience them and not all exchange is monetary value which has no value without me performing some act. My actions towards a Republic is effort and this achieved is what? Community and Limited Government? I better get my buns cooking then shouldn’t I. First you better catch up to me because I don’t like being all alone. Before you go thinking I am some arrogant idiot, go back and attempt to understand everything I wrote while sitting in your own mirror.</p>
<p>Sometimes we should put far more energy into our focus versus the bad ideas taking our energy away, why do you think they create so many? To keep you from focusing on your ideas. Please tell me you want A Republic way of life, it is a choice after all and by training you have already been acting on their idea as rule and that hasn’t turned out so well has it? But don’t let it be said there is no good lessons in screw ups, there very much is if we are willing to learn them.</p>
<p>When you are ready lets focus our energy in one united direction and I will let you see what you did when we are done.</p>
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