Comments on: Aborting Guns?

By: banter2345

banter2345 — Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:26:41 +0000

There is another problem with this legislation. Congress is to set up a commission to see if the different states’ processes of licensing is OK to the federal government. They will also standardize the biometric identity markers. My state only requires a fingerprint, which I believe I should not have to provide in the first place unless I commit a crime, but what happens when they tell us they need a retinal scan, or DNA sample, etc… This is one of the underlying problems with federal involvement, they are overreaching.

By: Austin Holthaus

Austin Holthaus — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:24:19 +0000

@akmark How does full faith and credit clause apply?

By: akmark

akmark — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 23:18:24 +0000

I will agree that this question/criticism of the right to carry reciprocity caused me to wonder until I considered the full faith and credit clause.

If we require national recognition of driver licenses, marriage licenses, etc., how can providing the same recognition for concealed weapon permits be a grievous attack on the 10th Amendment?

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Aborting Guns? « Liberty Candle — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:52:01 +0000

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By: Austin Holthaus

Austin Holthaus — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 15:42:19 +0000

I find it amazing that a liberal would ever cite the 10th Amendment. The 10th either always applies (the truth) or it never applies…it’s like being sort of pregnant. What’s the right word…hypocrite? I have mixed feelings about the Right-to-Carry bill. In the end it comes down the fact that all of the first ten amendments only apply to the federal government, per the BOR’s preamble, except for due process clause of the 5th which is enforceable against the states by the 14th. I reject selective incorporation by the courts…there is no legislative authority for incorporation if one reads the 14th’s Congressional and ratification literature. There is no authority for the federal government to force a state to accept any gun law unless a state is violating the due process clause or privileges and immunities of its citizens (meaning non-uniform laws for different citizens).

By: WilliamSchooler

WilliamSchooler — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 14:32:32 +0000

All very good points John,

Great take on it but as for the second amendment why is it really there in the first place? Because history provided evidence that and armed civilization had a better chance at liberty in being free from abusive Governments which history has provided there have been and entire abundance of. It is purely a survival mechanism against those abusing force.

You also point out something else here and I am grateful for it and this is one group forcing another group to do anything.

What is force? A view different from another and a forcing on another regardless of disagreement versus an agreement between the groups. Ask you self what a problem is and you find the same answer.

Now one of the things missing here is A Republic where in it are public individuals, groups makes no difference and expressing differences as they see them. The communications are heard, understood and recognized. An argument arrises and brings up a different view and some in the other groups listen and recognize this to be TRUE and an agreement is found to get along with each other and not to force each other to do a thing.

All Government Law is represented in force because most laws being made do not get good argument why? Because no true Republic exist is why. In a true Republic all are allowed to speak whether by representation or not and both sides of it allowed to be fully heard without interruption. Agreements are not to say I will do what ever you say and in fact are saying I allow you this way and please allow me.

Today choice is made without this option because those who supposedly represent do not do the act at all because they never once listened to a thing. Took the perks of special interest and did what ever they wanted. This again is because no Republic exists. Democracy is 51 % mob rule and means if we all agree this to be the rest of you are not allowed and this is also the lie people keep convincing themselves of by stating they have such authority which they do not.

This in essence doesn’t take a document, it is documented because some have carelessly imposed themselves on others with total disregard. This is entirely do to lack of respect for SELF as LIFE in support of YOU as LIFE.

Ouchy mama!!!

By: realDonnieTrump

realDonnieTrump — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 11:18:15 +0000

@RonPaul_2012 You need help exporting or importing guns? Call my secretary. #GOP #IOWA