Comments on: Election Results: A Boost to Big Government

By: Monorprise

Monorprise — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 10:25:30 +0000

While you are correct in your facts and i think realistic in your expectation. My point was it is sometimes a lot easier to influence someone when you play as their friend then when you presume to be their enemy,

It is equally easier to be convening in the travesty of your betrayal when you are not so openly expecting that betrayal.

I do not presume to ask you to place a bet on them doing the right thing. I know almost as well as you do the numbers, and just how dismal our odds are in this department.

I simply suggest that there may be a better way to position ourselfs at this time to maximize the odds that they will do the right thing, while also maximizing the impact of their betrayal.

In any-case there is room for optimism, we have quite successfully taken over a great many State legislators with new directions. They are now, unlike in a long time, openly talking about the 10th amendment and fixing to work to defend it.

We have made a great deal of progress in our cause Michael! Let us build upon and press that advantage.

Given that they are republicans, we will need to create the idea that we are working in concert as an ally of the republicans in the house in order to uses party faction to help drive the rest of the support we need, while also avoiding party faction problems with the majorty of our existing base. This is yet anther reason to at least "appear hopeful" and positive about the republican congress.

Right now we have positioned the republicans with the retorical words, motives, and power to start seriously doing something. But we are still not yet strong enough. We have barely set foot upon the shore, and we could fall back into the sea should we bounder badly.

I would suggest we spend more time focusing on building up our base of support, specifically the idea that the State Government can be an effective tool in influencing the Federal Government and controlling political policy.

The attention of the people must shift from Washington to home if the people are to uses their states instead of Washington.

Also on the menu is more aggressive acts of nullification, and interposition. Already we got state officials openly plotting how to slowdown the health-care law. They are getting the idea in their head, now we just got to make sure they do it.

While governments always grow, as you very well know, in the State we can uses that to tear at the Federal Government.

By: shill

shill — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:07:23 +0000

The whole sad truth.

By: Bone

Bone — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 17:28:39 +0000

Well said. The giant is awake. And we will keep a close eye on the reps – a very close eye.

By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 16:07:05 +0000

JMB – you are speaking my kind of language!

I think many here do not notice that Browe only writes about DC in his article and made no real reference to state elections. I agree that the DC republicans will do little more than surface opposition and will never seriously scale back the size and scope of government as the constitution – requires.

But yes, there are a number of good people on the state level – I have met some of them myself – and have high hopes for our 10th amendment movement growing in the next few years.

By: TSpirit

TSpirit — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:14:53 +0000

…results, a boost to big government. Enough whining. Take courage, gains the state legislatures and governors positions can further our cause of states rights. I get it, you wish more folks to vote Libertarian – I do not disagree.

By: JMB

JMB — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 11:07:56 +0000

I have been looking into the integrity of our new Governors and it's looking pretty good to me.

There may be hope left for a considerable number of our republics, and this voluntary Union to boot.

By: Peter G

Peter G — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 06:43:05 +0000

Harry Browne is wrong when he says "It doesn’t matter whether the Democrats or the Republicans won control of the House. Government will get bigger, more intrusive, more expensive, and less efficient. Nothing has changed in the past 75 years." This election was all about big government
and why is this election historic? Obama and his loyalists have awakened awakened a sleeping giant. We are not going away and go back to sleep, on the contrary we will be wide awake watching every move anxd just as active to keep them in line. When some fail to live up to the oath they will be replaced until we get it right.

By: Stephen Otto

Stephen Otto — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 03:00:27 +0000

While we certainly shouldn't give up voting, we should realize that it is only one small process in maintaining republican government. It's been a difficult choice for me, however, to decide between voting on pure principle and conscience or voting "strategically." Interestingly, Murray Rothbard would support candidates who were not pure in principle but on net were better for liberty. He, of course, was as pure a libertarian as one can be but understood that the state cannot be reduced (or abolished) in one fell swoop. The problem is, though, that we are still going in the other direction.

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Thu, 04 Nov 2010 02:20:50 +0000

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By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 02:02:44 +0000

Susanne – you must be new to this site! I am as positive as can be – and believe we CAN get our freedom and liberty as long as we stop being drawn by the siren song of elections.

If you want to learn a little more about this subject, start with this introductory article – there are plenty more on the subject if you are interested! http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/07/30/th…

And most importantly, welcome to the movement!