Is the Tea Party Revolution Imploding?

It is clear that many in the movement are plants by the socialists to make us all look bad. Think about it. Our "leaders" are put there by the Obama socialists to tear us apart. Resist these leaders!

I would suggest a truce, we nether need nor want to agree on everything.(that's why a centralized leader is pointless despite how much the media may want one, it defeats the point which they have yet to grasp.)

That being said while we expect to disagree on much in the way of specifics we do in printable agree on one most critical of objects. We desire the liberty to disagree and not have to live with the consequences of the others choices. Whether that choice be the dept they run up on our behalf or that choice be the unconstitutional acts of congress which attempts to force every last one of us to do “a thing a certain way”. Not simply avoid injuring other people but actually preform and provide for service as if we were a slave!

We are all individuals not puppets, that which we value most is that which we decide for ourselves is important. Let us not ask that any of us abandon that which is important to them so that we may appear to be a “coherent” group.

We are not a coherent group and that is very much the point, we at our heart don't want to be, we are founded in the rejection of collectivized orders in favor of that most American of concepts, individualism.

To expect us to be a mobilized army acting as one on all or really any matter is madness.

So what are we many ask? Well its very simple, we are the desire to be free, free of the oppressive burdens imposed upon us without our individual consent. We are the desire to be free of the dept we didn't choose to make, but rather was imposed upon us by congressmen who have somehow acquired the power to spend our money on absolutely anything and everything. (I thought we had a constitution which limited the topics of their spending???) Or worse yet by people who were elected and electing before we was even born.

We want to be responsible for our own actions and choices not that of everyone else's. This is a very practical if basic demand, because after all we have no legitimate control over anyone else how is it that we can be expected to balance any budget if we can't control spending?

How we suppose to make ends meet if we control only the one end? (the producer) as the consumer(the non-taxpaying majority) just keeps running wild as if we don't exist.

The only person in life we control is ourselves and as such the only person in life we can legitimate be held responsible for is also ourselves. This is self-determination, and those of us who are worried about budget burdens and freedom would rightfully like it back.

Being involved in two Tea Party organizations, our common view is that the Tea Party values, are growing at a trigonometric rate with the populace. Even with Progressives doing everything they can to destroy the Tea Party movement, eg: planting operatives, attempting to gain leadership, controlling existing leadership, starting new Tea parties, and every other subterfuge means, they ARE LOSING ground.
Just one example is the tremendous reception and cheers we get when participating in rallies, parades. And we have less than 100 people who attend our meetings. And this is with two liberal newspapers who really dislike our efforts. It's not all bad. As a matter of fact it is really good.
Our County, in the left coast, is small but the word of mouth, in favor of conservative values is huge. I hear from friends around the country that their situations are very similar.
The attendance at meetings will fluctua

Daily, I wake to a question of, “What freedoms will I lose today?” Being bombarded daily with unconstitutional, or at least anti-Republic rhetoric will cause over the longer time information over-load, burn out, and severe ridicule from the other side. What sustains our resistance? Can we “Stay Calm, and Carry on?” To endure is to win, to fade a cause is lost.

The framers asked for not ‘Participation’ but of “Wise Participation.” We must choose wisely, or our Republic will because of non-participation, weariness, and burn-out something else than what we have enjoyed through the first 100 years of our nation.

A good article by Ms. Dawald.

I think the major problem here “globally” in America amongst the various tea, nullify, tenthers, NOM’s, etc., is “sustainability.” Can they all sustain this level of knowledge, angst, and move- ability through 2012 while the main stream media ignores, distorts, or ridicules?

Running at 100% for the entire time period (from now to 2012) is going to cause burn out and our adversaries anticipate that. The less enthused will drop out, become disenfranchised, and de motivated. The topic battles must be therefore chosen wisely, as should the candidates who will support a constitutional republican view. And the question must be ‘always,’ can we actually ‘trust’ an elected official to DO WHAT HE PROMISES to get elected?

Ron Paul never said he was pro gay, he just said that it's none of the federal gov's business. It's up to the States or the people directly.. Quit beating a dead horse people. The 10th amendment says it pretty well!!!!!!!!!!!

You will not have a successful movement for the following reasons: The republicrats are a sell perpetuating system involving a lot of money derived from companies most of whose management, is like almost all politicians, made up of psychopaths.

I do not call names. I use clearly defined terms. Do the research on psychopath.

Most normal people have half way decent bullshit detectors. While the left advocates big government, the right is comprised almost entirely of people who lie a lot and use an enormous number of undefined terms, or self contradictory phrases. Let me give you just one small example. Pro Life. "The holocaust of the unborn" You know who was pro life? The Nazis. If you were sub human, like jews or queers, then you could get an abortion, but if you were a real person then you were SOL. Follow this farther and you will see that throughout the world the pro life position is held by the most repressive, anti-women, backward places on the planet. You know ... like Islamic countries. In fact of the social agenda of "the right" is closer to that of Islamic countries than to the rest of the first world.

So ... in America... yea, the right is pretty much doomed. To bad, cause I really do not want the government running everything. But maybe the right is really a 5th column for socialists

I've noticed that the big problem is different factions within the tparty movement declaring everyone else that doesn't hold their particular 'flavor of tea' as not legitimate. I think if we must have one common idea among all tparty people then it must be the freedom of thought different groups to exist together and still maintain their individual identity.

Also, one tparty might be anti-gay while another isn't and if the liberals attack one group for being anti-gay then they can only destroy that particular group that believes that. Its like the old addage of not putting all your eggs in one basket or a stock broker having different stocks because if one stock goes down then the others will rise. In my opinion, it is the best survival strategy for the tparty.

i personally like pro freedom - free to be gay or straight or religious or not, or rich or poor or smart or dumb.

Free to make good choices and bad choices to think something is good or something is bad. free to be you.

That is something that is severely lacking in America these days.

The Democrats hope the tea party movement is over.

Some Republicans think the can ge a free ride from the
tea party movement.

But let all politians take note: The Tea Party Movement is alive and well.
It is the sumation of all American citizens who have woken up and are
sick and tired of all the ilk that they have let get into office who are stealing
our economy and our goverments (fed, state, local). The ilk have been ignoring
our constitutions at all levels (fed, state, local) since the end of the 1940s.

The Tea Partuy Movement is not pro-Democrat, is not pro-Republicans.
We are anti-Incumbent at all levels (fed, state, local) who have joined the
ilk class and have ignored the people and our constitutions.

We want our county back...We can use constituional means
to fix our country.

Thanks

Frank Henry
Cottonwood, Arizona
Tel: 928-649-0249
e-mail: fmhenry4@netzero.com

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I cannot speak for the rest of the USA but here in Texas we did the Ron Paul thing and he backed out BEFORE the state primary was over, We did the teaparties and they starting putting neocons (like Gov Rick Perry) on stage at OUR rallies, all the while these clowns telling us what Constitutioanlists they are when any person with a memory beyond 5 minutes could see that was definitely NOT the case. Then We had Debra Medina run for Gov on a platform of no property taxes and nullification and she was denied the podium at the teaparty at the Capitol when she was the main attraction we all came to see. Previously, we also had Alex Jones show up at a progun rally and destroy the momentum of the whole event in fifteen minutes. Now we find out Ron Paul is about as pro gay as they come. We were and have been co-opted, however we have not given up, we just decided we want no big names, no government, no big corporations-just us and big liberty. We will prevail but have been snookered every way imaginable and are now stronger, smarter and more aware of fakes/traps for it.

I cannot speak for the rest of the USA but here in Texas we did the ron Paul thing and he backed out BEFORE the state primary was over, We did the teaparties and they starting putting neocons (like Gov Rick Perry) on stage at OUR rallies, all the while these clowns telling us what Constitutioanlists they are when any person with a memory beyond 5 minutes could see that was definitely the case. Then We hadDebra Medina run for Gov on a platform of no property taxes and nullification and she was denied the podium at the teaparty at the Capitol when she was the main attraction we all came to see. Previously, we also had Alex Jones show up at a progun rally and destroy the momentum of the whole event in fifteen minutes. Now we find out Ron Paul is about as pro gay as they come. We were and have been co-opted, however we have not given up, we just decided we want no big names, no government, no big corporations-just us and big liberty. We will prevail but have been snookered every way imaginable and are now stroonger, smarter and more aware of fakes/traps for it.

I sense implants from org's hostile to the overall movement. Would be usual tactic to foment distrust within the movement's alleged 'leadership' or the members. A basic tactic of espionage. Think about it.

There will be people in the movement who embarrass us. Some of them are almost certainly planted by the powers that be who we threaten.

I have noticed those types - within other groups like the Libertarian Party - who act with dignity for years, then suddenly act to totally discredit the movement. These people are just too much. Nothing explains it unless they are being paid to make us all look bad. I have no proof. But we'd have to be foolish to believe our enemies (the powers that be) would NOT do this to us. Would the Republicans or Democrats stoop this low? Of course!

So... when you see someone in the group acting too weird, assume that you've been infiltrated.

I think our leader should be the United States Constitution. I don't know how that would work exactly, but that's the only thing I trust.

The way I see it,your movement or any other won't make much difference for the current state of events. Sometimes, it seems that the democracy in the US is just a certain type of an authoritarian regime. So, no matter how much you try to express your point of view, it's very unlikely anybody will hear it.

Right on Darla! Spoken like a true daughter of Arizona!