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	<title>Comments on: Hubris: A Danger to the Tea Party Movement</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/05/24/hubris-a-danger-to-the-tea-party-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-748353</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The tea party has become their own worst enemy. 
 
The tea party started out with the right idea we need to bring this nation back to the fundamental principle which our for-fathers established when they created the constitution as the fundamental laws governing this nation.    However, they failed to under stand that is not the government nor the size of government that is the problem in this nation.    Instead they bought in to the agenda of the vast powerful corporation which is that this government is out of control and therefore our government should be privatized an allowed to be run by the private sector instead. 
 
I personally belive the tea part members should look up the difference between a Constitutional Republic and a Corporate Republic before telling anyone how this nation should be governed.  
   
Abraham Lincoln said it best    
 
&#8220;Don&#039;t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.&#8221;   
 
&#8220;We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.&#8221; 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tea party has become their own worst enemy. </p>
<p>The tea party started out with the right idea we need to bring this nation back to the fundamental principle which our for-fathers established when they created the constitution as the fundamental laws governing this nation.    However, they failed to under stand that is not the government nor the size of government that is the problem in this nation.    Instead they bought in to the agenda of the vast powerful corporation which is that this government is out of control and therefore our government should be privatized an allowed to be run by the private sector instead. </p>
<p>I personally belive the tea part members should look up the difference between a Constitutional Republic and a Corporate Republic before telling anyone how this nation should be governed.  </p>
<p>Abraham Lincoln said it best    </p>
<p>&ldquo;Don&#039;t interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties.&rdquo;   </p>
<p>&ldquo;We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.&rdquo; </p>
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		<title>By: TENTH AMENDMENT CENTER &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>TENTH AMENDMENT CENTER &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/05/24/hubris-a-danger-to-the-tea-party-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-320332</link>
		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 07:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, but a lot of people seem to think that this was politically a foolish move as it was a &quot;step too far&quot; out of the politically correct thinking to be electable. 
 
It is indeed a regrettable fact that we are forced to pick our fights so that we are not fighting more people/interest groups then we can handle at any one time.   Many people fear that fighting for this particular part of individual rights on top of our more immediate and pressing issue may be too much for us to win against at this time. 
 
 
If you make too many enemy&#039;s you don&#039;t win any battles against any of them. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but a lot of people seem to think that this was politically a foolish move as it was a &quot;step too far&quot; out of the politically correct thinking to be electable. </p>
<p>It is indeed a regrettable fact that we are forced to pick our fights so that we are not fighting more people/interest groups then we can handle at any one time.   Many people fear that fighting for this particular part of individual rights on top of our more immediate and pressing issue may be too much for us to win against at this time. </p>
<p>If you make too many enemy&#039;s you don&#039;t win any battles against any of them. </p>
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		<title>By: Gabby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To be honest, the Tea Party needs to just keep doing what it does. Stir up the pot. Let the candidates be separate of the Tea Party and run their platforms. The group here is constantly saying they don&#039;t support or endorse candidates, but yet, they get connected to them. I applaud the Tea Parties for waking up the sleeping masses to the fact that they have a voice. Unfortunately, they are not doing much past that, the media just makes it look like it.  That is fine. They can get them started, there are plenty of solution oriented groups that can take up the slack, like this one!  
As for Rand, he is going to make mistakes...we should learn from these young men and women who are sticking their necks out there. We need to learn the good and the bad and practice that. Un-experienced candidates (though Rand has a family history of experience) are going to mess up. That just shows that they are not career politicians who always know how to talk out of both sides of their mouths. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be honest, the Tea Party needs to just keep doing what it does. Stir up the pot. Let the candidates be separate of the Tea Party and run their platforms. The group here is constantly saying they don&#039;t support or endorse candidates, but yet, they get connected to them. I applaud the Tea Parties for waking up the sleeping masses to the fact that they have a voice. Unfortunately, they are not doing much past that, the media just makes it look like it.  That is fine. They can get them started, there are plenty of solution oriented groups that can take up the slack, like this one!<br />
As for Rand, he is going to make mistakes&#8230;we should learn from these young men and women who are sticking their necks out there. We need to learn the good and the bad and practice that. Un-experienced candidates (though Rand has a family history of experience) are going to mess up. That just shows that they are not career politicians who always know how to talk out of both sides of their mouths. </p>
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		<title>By: @TdashPaine</title>
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		<dc:creator>@TdashPaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is just my two cents but what if the tea party activist actually stealthed and went underground secretly passing out fliers and debating their fellow citizens one on one.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just my two cents but what if the tea party activist actually stealthed and went underground secretly passing out fliers and debating their fellow citizens one on one.   </p>
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		<title>By: Tamara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 09:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He was standing for individual rights you goops.....how many business could survive discrimination ...!! Is orivate business ownership still private or not.....or are you all owned and march to the beat of the &quot;gobment&quot; drum to a point you do not know the difference between right and wrong and you have to have a law to force you to behave! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He was standing for individual rights you goops&#8230;..how many business could survive discrimination &#8230;!! Is orivate business ownership still private or not&#8230;..or are you all owned and march to the beat of the &quot;gobment&quot; drum to a point you do not know the difference between right and wrong and you have to have a law to force you to behave! </p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 08:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article Rob Natelson, We have had quite a few very significant successes, we let that get to our heads we will make mistakes.  We need to be planing 3 or 5 steps ahead, at the same time thou we can never forget the nature of our base being mostly inexpediences  and really just discovering the field. 
 
We are going to continue to make a lot of mistakes thats a given, we are also going to have a lot of failures, thats a given.    In both cases we need to learn from that which apparently doesn&#039;t work in order to better find that which will work. 
 
As this field is really mostly just new to us, and there are those among us with real experience in it, we would be wise to learn from them and their mistakes as well.   In the end however the biggest trick will be how to influence Our State legislators and Washington D.C. with out being corrupted by the same power. 
 
I individually am convinced that this will require us to manipulate them from a safe distances by means of carefully appeased nudges.  But it is apparent that we need to replace a lot of them who are in power as well, not so much with someone agreeable to our positions as with someone highly &quot;nugeable&quot; by us. 
 
I am of course not the only one who can come up with a plan, all of you can do the same with no less a degree of plausibility. 
 
So let us think carefully before we act, let our actions be plained and prepared for.  Let the political battle be rigged in our favor.  This is going to be exceedingly hard for those of us who are on the front lines as it is very difficult to think and plan on your feet. 
 
Perhaps we should accept that fact with humbleness, that we need a legislator&#039;s time to carefully reflect upon the facts before deciding how to take action.  Rather then an executive&#039;s instincts. 
 
I for one must admit that is my weakness I am not the executive sort. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Rob Natelson, We have had quite a few very significant successes, we let that get to our heads we will make mistakes.  We need to be planing 3 or 5 steps ahead, at the same time thou we can never forget the nature of our base being mostly inexpediences  and really just discovering the field. </p>
<p>We are going to continue to make a lot of mistakes thats a given, we are also going to have a lot of failures, thats a given.    In both cases we need to learn from that which apparently doesn&#039;t work in order to better find that which will work. </p>
<p>As this field is really mostly just new to us, and there are those among us with real experience in it, we would be wise to learn from them and their mistakes as well.   In the end however the biggest trick will be how to influence Our State legislators and Washington D.C. with out being corrupted by the same power. </p>
<p>I individually am convinced that this will require us to manipulate them from a safe distances by means of carefully appeased nudges.  But it is apparent that we need to replace a lot of them who are in power as well, not so much with someone agreeable to our positions as with someone highly &quot;nugeable&quot; by us. </p>
<p>I am of course not the only one who can come up with a plan, all of you can do the same with no less a degree of plausibility. </p>
<p>So let us think carefully before we act, let our actions be plained and prepared for.  Let the political battle be rigged in our favor.  This is going to be exceedingly hard for those of us who are on the front lines as it is very difficult to think and plan on your feet. </p>
<p>Perhaps we should accept that fact with humbleness, that we need a legislator&#039;s time to carefully reflect upon the facts before deciding how to take action.  Rather then an executive&#039;s instincts. </p>
<p>I for one must admit that is my weakness I am not the executive sort. </p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 23:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I&#039;ve spent nearly 15 years promoting events.  While I&#039;m not privy to all the details of what happens in Montana, I can tell you this - the absolute worst thing to do with event promotions is to have an empty space. 
 
The coordinators there would&#039;ve gotten more positive attention if they had advertised 150 with 250 showing up, than advertising 5000.  To me, that&#039;s a big mistake. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I&#039;ve spent nearly 15 years promoting events.  While I&#039;m not privy to all the details of what happens in Montana, I can tell you this &#8211; the absolute worst thing to do with event promotions is to have an empty space. </p>
<p>The coordinators there would&#039;ve gotten more positive attention if they had advertised 150 with 250 showing up, than advertising 5000.  To me, that&#039;s a big mistake. </p>
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		<title>By: GWehe</title>
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		<dc:creator>GWehe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, Natelson throwing out the baby with the bath water...   
 
When are you going to learn Rob that this was not hubris.  It was NOTICE.  Notice that Missoula is not out of the range of taking back from liberal, marxists.  Notice that though some of the speakers &quot;may&quot; be considered &quot;fringe&quot; by &#039;educated people&#039; as yourself, they still carried a very powerful message that rang true with many scores of attendees:  Attendees with wide ranges of influence, money, power &amp; experience.   Chuck Baldwin fringe?  Sheriff Mack fringe?  Where the heck have you been Rob, stuck in your classroom all these years?  It will be a good thing for you to get out of your rut and get into a real job.  Good luck in Colorado!! 
 
GW 
Kalispell 
 
 &quot;...First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win...&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, Natelson throwing out the baby with the bath water&#8230;   </p>
<p>When are you going to learn Rob that this was not hubris.  It was NOTICE.  Notice that Missoula is not out of the range of taking back from liberal, marxists.  Notice that though some of the speakers &quot;may&quot; be considered &quot;fringe&quot; by &#039;educated people&#039; as yourself, they still carried a very powerful message that rang true with many scores of attendees:  Attendees with wide ranges of influence, money, power &amp; experience.   Chuck Baldwin fringe?  Sheriff Mack fringe?  Where the heck have you been Rob, stuck in your classroom all these years?  It will be a good thing for you to get out of your rut and get into a real job.  Good luck in Colorado!! </p>
<p>GW<br />
Kalispell </p>
<p> &quot;&#8230;First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win&#8230;&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 18:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and having unrealistic short term expectations is sure to lead to long-term failure.  Slow and steady is my view of the right method! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and having unrealistic short term expectations is sure to lead to long-term failure.  Slow and steady is my view of the right method! </p>
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