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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 07:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you haven&#039;t been the only one eating crow!!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you haven&#39;t been the only one eating crow!!  </p>
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		<title>By: Courtland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Courtland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 06:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s talk man to man... you have my number.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s talk man to man&#8230; you have my number.  </p>
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		<title>By: Courtland</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/22/the-problem-will-never-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-317668</link>
		<dc:creator>Courtland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 06:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s talk man to man... you have my number.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#39;s talk man to man&#8230; you have my number.  </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Matthews</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 05:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and BTW, I do believe it possible for Shane and Michael to possibly get past this recent hurdle.   Michael and I have had a number of spirited debates.   Neither of us has ever told the other where there must be a line in the sand.   In defense of my &quot;controversial&quot; article, which I really think should not be controversial at all, I hope Shane will reconsider the importance of our efforts on demanding strict adherence to the Constitution.  It&#039;s all the excuses for not doing so that have gotten us where we are.  At some point, we have to put away our social biases and simply agree to follow the law.  Perhaps Shane will reconsider.   I in no way perceive him as a bad or evil guy - just opinionated, like the rest of us.   I have had to eat crow when debating Michael a handful of times.   No problem.   It&#039;s part of progress.   I consider myself fairly intelligent but not above reproach, and I&#039;ll gladly admit when I have a change of opinion based on a prior misconception. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and BTW, I do believe it possible for Shane and Michael to possibly get past this recent hurdle.   Michael and I have had a number of spirited debates.   Neither of us has ever told the other where there must be a line in the sand.   In defense of my &quot;controversial&quot; article, which I really think should not be controversial at all, I hope Shane will reconsider the importance of our efforts on demanding strict adherence to the Constitution.  It&#39;s all the excuses for not doing so that have gotten us where we are.  At some point, we have to put away our social biases and simply agree to follow the law.  Perhaps Shane will reconsider.   I in no way perceive him as a bad or evil guy &#8211; just opinionated, like the rest of us.   I have had to eat crow when debating Michael a handful of times.   No problem.   It&#39;s part of progress.   I consider myself fairly intelligent but not above reproach, and I&#39;ll gladly admit when I have a change of opinion based on a prior misconception. </p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Matthews</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/22/the-problem-will-never-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-317660</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Matthews</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 05:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael is correct.   The 5th and 14th are limitations on the federal/state police process, and in terms of &quot;life,&quot; they are speaking only in terms of carrying out a death penalty. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael is correct.   The 5th and 14th are limitations on the federal/state police process, and in terms of &quot;life,&quot; they are speaking only in terms of carrying out a death penalty. </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palmer</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/22/the-problem-will-never-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-317646</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#039;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...&quot;. 
 
So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#039;t. 
 
Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#039;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#039;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#039;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. 
 
(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) 
 
This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#039;s a mess!  I just don&#039;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#039;s all I have to say on the matter.  ;-) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#39;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;&#8230;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law&#8230;&quot;. </p>
<p>So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#39;t. </p>
<p>Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#39;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#39;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#39;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. </p>
<p>(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) </p>
<p>This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#39;s a mess!  I just don&#39;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#39;s all I have to say on the matter.  <img src='http://tenthamendment.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#039;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...&quot;. 
 
So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#039;t. 
 
Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#039;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#039;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#039;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. 
 
(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) 
 
This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#039;s a mess!  I just don&#039;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#039;s all I have to say on the matter.  ;-) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#39;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;&#8230;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law&#8230;&quot;. </p>
<p>So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#39;t. </p>
<p>Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#39;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#39;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#39;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. </p>
<p>(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) </p>
<p>This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#39;s a mess!  I just don&#39;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#39;s all I have to say on the matter.  <img src='http://tenthamendment.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palmer</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/22/the-problem-will-never-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-317650</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#039;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...&quot;. 
 
So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#039;t. 
 
Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#039;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#039;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#039;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. 
 
(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) 
 
This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#039;s a mess!  I just don&#039;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#039;s all I have to say on the matter.  ;-) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#39;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;&#8230;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law&#8230;&quot;. </p>
<p>So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#39;t. </p>
<p>Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#39;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#39;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#39;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. </p>
<p>(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) </p>
<p>This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#39;s a mess!  I just don&#39;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#39;s all I have to say on the matter.  <img src='http://tenthamendment.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palmer</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/22/the-problem-will-never-fix-the-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-317651</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#039;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...&quot;. 
 
So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#039;t. 
 
Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#039;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#039;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#039;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. 
 
(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) 
 
This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#039;s a mess!  I just don&#039;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#039;s all I have to say on the matter.  ;-) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#39;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;&#8230;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law&#8230;&quot;. </p>
<p>So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#39;t. </p>
<p>Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#39;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#39;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#39;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. </p>
<p>(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) </p>
<p>This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#39;s a mess!  I just don&#39;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#39;s all I have to say on the matter.  <img src='http://tenthamendment.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Steve Palmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Palmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#039;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...&quot;. 
 
So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#039;t. 
 
Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#039;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#039;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#039;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. 
 
(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) 
 
This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#039;s a mess!  I just don&#039;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#039;s all I have to say on the matter.  ;-) ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.  This will be my last comment because this topic is endless and counterproductive.  I&#39;ll just add that the 14th amendment says, &quot;&#8230;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law&#8230;&quot;. </p>
<p>So it seems clear to me that if human life begins at conception, then the inalienable right to life of the unborn is protected by the 5th and 14th amendments (and also by the Natural law).  It also seems clear to me that if life begins at birth then the federal government has no Constitutional say in the matter.  Worse, if human life begins somewhere after conception but before birth, then some state abortion laws would be constitutional and others wouldn&#39;t. </p>
<p>Someone could argue that the original meaning of the word &quot;person&quot; decides when a person is a person, and that&#39;s almost a win, but someone else could plausibly argue that the biological sciences have discovered a previously unknown group of &quot;person&quot;s.  That&#39;s not quite the same thing as redefining the word&#39;s meaning, which would be unacceptable. </p>
<p>(i.e. if someone discovered a new species of fish, all existing laws that applied to &quot;fish&quot; would necessarily apply to the new species, even though it was unknown at the time the &quot;fish&quot; laws were written.) </p>
<p>This is why I generally avoid this topic like the plague.  It&#39;s a mess!  I just don&#39;t see an answer to it in the Constitution.  And that&#39;s all I have to say on the matter.  <img src='http://tenthamendment.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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