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		<title>By: Loki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Loki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[also note that the 10th amendment only restricts the federal government refers to prohibitions on the states but ultimately ZERO restrictions on the people in their respective states. Truely evidencing that we were always meant to be a Free People and the ultimate arbiters of all the Laws of the Land, otherwise they wouldn&#039;t have kept the Declaration of Independence as equally important of a doc as the Constitution. &quot;alter or abolish&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also note that the 10th amendment only restricts the federal government refers to prohibitions on the states but ultimately ZERO restrictions on the people in their respective states. Truely evidencing that we were always meant to be a Free People and the ultimate arbiters of all the Laws of the Land, otherwise they wouldn&#039;t have kept the Declaration of Independence as equally important of a doc as the Constitution. &quot;alter or abolish&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: Escapee</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/08/delegated-not-surrendered/comment-page-1/#comment-314127</link>
		<dc:creator>Escapee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew Jackson was one hellofa great president, but the thieves and looters made him the poster boy for their bogus money system anyway. So what does that tell ya? 
 
And he knew what he was doing.  
 
Saying that you don&#039;t CARE what the court says reveals a lot. First that you do not understand the context in which the supreme court decisions were made, and second that you have no idea how massively stupid the power of the people at any given point in time can actually be. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew Jackson was one hellofa great president, but the thieves and looters made him the poster boy for their bogus money system anyway. So what does that tell ya? </p>
<p>And he knew what he was doing.  </p>
<p>Saying that you don&#39;t CARE what the court says reveals a lot. First that you do not understand the context in which the supreme court decisions were made, and second that you have no idea how massively stupid the power of the people at any given point in time can actually be. </p>
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		<title>By: Escapee</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/08/delegated-not-surrendered/comment-page-1/#comment-314130</link>
		<dc:creator>Escapee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ 
Thank you for the question, guest. I&#039;m trying to tell an extremely simple story, which sometimes is not so simple to do! 
 
Can category 1 &quot;U.S.&quot; approach a Citizen in his state? NO. Category 1 United States only has jurisdiction abroad. 
 
Can category 3 &quot;U.S.&quot; approach a Citizen in his state? NO. The U.S. was delegated no such power, and further the Tenth Amendment forbids it. 
 
That leaves category 2 &quot;U.S.&quot;, the physical lands over which the federal government has control. The U.S.  can create corporations and &quot;persons&quot; within these territories and enclaves because they are the sovereign.  
 
Here is the contract&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_user.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_...&lt;/a&gt; and this is the address of some federal territories: 
 
Tinon, GU 96913 
Yauco, PR 00698 
Washington, DC 20373 
Beverly Hills, CA 90210 
 
Delegation, surrender, abrogation, whatever. If the feds have your signature on a document saying that you are one of their franchisees, they can follow you anywhere in the world and tax you on that privelege (Cook v. Tait, 265 U.S. 47). 
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Thank you for the question, guest. I&#039;m trying to tell an extremely simple story, which sometimes is not so simple to do! </p>
<p>Can category 1 &quot;U.S.&quot; approach a Citizen in his state? NO. Category 1 United States only has jurisdiction abroad. </p>
<p>Can category 3 &quot;U.S.&quot; approach a Citizen in his state? NO. The U.S. was delegated no such power, and further the Tenth Amendment forbids it. </p>
<p>That leaves category 2 &quot;U.S.&quot;, the physical lands over which the federal government has control. The U.S.  can create corporations and &quot;persons&quot; within these territories and enclaves because they are the sovereign.  </p>
<p>Here is the contract<a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_user.html" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_" rel="nofollow">http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/amdt14toc_</a>&#8230; and this is the address of some federal territories: </p>
<p>Tinon, GU 96913<br />
Yauco, PR 00698<br />
Washington, DC 20373<br />
Beverly Hills, CA 90210 </p>
<p>Delegation, surrender, abrogation, whatever. If the feds have your signature on a document saying that you are one of their franchisees, they can follow you anywhere in the world and tax you on that privelege (Cook v. Tait, 265 U.S. 47). </p>
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		<title>By: Delegated. Not Surrendered. &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/04/08/delegated-not-surrendered/comment-page-1/#comment-314055</link>
		<dc:creator>Delegated. Not Surrendered. &#124; The Ruthless Truth blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 15:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: gcx</title>
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		<dc:creator>gcx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do we even have a constitution if the fed govt can do whatever it wants via the commerce clause?! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we even have a constitution if the fed govt can do whatever it wants via the commerce clause?! </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re still reading this... 
 
I&#039;m confused by your argument that most encroachments come via the &#039;second United States&#039; because people can&#039;t recognize it. 
 
The &#039;second United States&#039; seems to be a reference to your list of 3 different ways of seeing our national government as explained in Evatt. 
 
If that&#039;s correct, then you would be referring to the physical lands over which the federal government has control (D.C., Guam, A.S., certain forts, dockyards, etc. where title to the land rests with the federal entity). 
 
How does the people&#039;s inability to recognize these territories (lands) over which the federal government holds title (or has control) cause &quot;encroachments on the states and the People&quot;? 
 
I&#039;m not trying to be argumentative.  I&#039;m just trying to understand what you&#039;re saying and how it relates to the article above.   
 
I thought the point of Mr. Greenslade&#039;s article was that the states didn&#039;t intend to permanently give up power to the federal government in ratifying the US Constitution.  Several of the states made this crystal clear at the time. 
 
Instead of a permanent &#039;surrender&#039; of powers, according to the author, they were merely &#039;delegating&#039; (which implies a temporary grant) certain powers to the feds and, as such, those powers could be reclaimed later.   
 
I&#039;m guessing the author would like to reclaim some or all of them now. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#039;re still reading this&#8230; </p>
<p>I&#039;m confused by your argument that most encroachments come via the &#039;second United States&#039; because people can&#039;t recognize it. </p>
<p>The &#039;second United States&#039; seems to be a reference to your list of 3 different ways of seeing our national government as explained in Evatt. </p>
<p>If that&#039;s correct, then you would be referring to the physical lands over which the federal government has control (D.C., Guam, A.S., certain forts, dockyards, etc. where title to the land rests with the federal entity). </p>
<p>How does the people&#039;s inability to recognize these territories (lands) over which the federal government holds title (or has control) cause &quot;encroachments on the states and the People&quot;? </p>
<p>I&#039;m not trying to be argumentative.  I&#039;m just trying to understand what you&#039;re saying and how it relates to the article above.   </p>
<p>I thought the point of Mr. Greenslade&#039;s article was that the states didn&#039;t intend to permanently give up power to the federal government in ratifying the US Constitution.  Several of the states made this crystal clear at the time. </p>
<p>Instead of a permanent &#039;surrender&#039; of powers, according to the author, they were merely &#039;delegating&#039; (which implies a temporary grant) certain powers to the feds and, as such, those powers could be reclaimed later.   </p>
<p>I&#039;m guessing the author would like to reclaim some or all of them now. </p>
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		<title>By: Rich Hand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Hand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael: Amen! Every SC case needs to be applied to the original intent of the constitution. We are in the predicament we are due to tortured logic used to infuse federal government into places it has no business. &quot;Commerce clause&quot; comes to mind. It is so obvious if we just read the arguments of our founders and the constitution...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael: Amen! Every SC case needs to be applied to the original intent of the constitution. We are in the predicament we are due to tortured logic used to infuse federal government into places it has no business. &#8220;Commerce clause&#8221; comes to mind. It is so obvious if we just read the arguments of our founders and the constitution&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 16:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh, what I&#039;m saying is i don&#039;t CARE what the court says.  As long as people start learning to follow the constitution as it was written and ratified - with that original meaning - the court can give us whatever opinion they want and it won&#039;t matter.  this is about the power of the people..... 
 
Like Andrew Jackson allegedly said to the supremes &quot;You&#039;ve got your opinion, now come and try to enforce it!&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, what I&#039;m saying is i don&#039;t CARE what the court says.  As long as people start learning to follow the constitution as it was written and ratified &#8211; with that original meaning &#8211; the court can give us whatever opinion they want and it won&#039;t matter.  this is about the power of the people&#8230;.. </p>
<p>Like Andrew Jackson allegedly said to the supremes &quot;You&#039;ve got your opinion, now come and try to enforce it!&quot; </p>
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		<title>By: escapee</title>
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		<dc:creator>escapee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MichaelBoldin. No, the Supreme Court is not infallible, but they do carry considerably more weight than some guy on the internet&#039;s one-sentence, baseless conjecture.

I always give cites. There ARE three entities known as the &quot;United States&quot;, you can find them, chapter and verse at Paragraph 42: http://openjurist.org/324/us/652/hooven-allison-co-v-evatt

Observe or not. I give the reasons Constitutionalists are not getting any traction. One major reason is that state citizens do not recognize WHICH &quot;United States&quot; they are dealing with. If they understood that they were being approached by the second definition &quot;United States&quot; they would have an entirely different strategy than if they were dealing with the third definition, wouldn&#039;t they?

And if you have a court opinion you would like comments on, please cite it for us.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MichaelBoldin. No, the Supreme Court is not infallible, but they do carry considerably more weight than some guy on the internet&#8217;s one-sentence, baseless conjecture.</p>
<p>I always give cites. There ARE three entities known as the &#8220;United States&#8221;, you can find them, chapter and verse at Paragraph 42: <a href="http://openjurist.org/324/us/652/hooven-allison-co-v-evatt" rel="nofollow">http://openjurist.org/324/us/652/hooven-allison-co-v-evatt</a></p>
<p>Observe or not. I give the reasons Constitutionalists are not getting any traction. One major reason is that state citizens do not recognize WHICH &#8220;United States&#8221; they are dealing with. If they understood that they were being approached by the second definition &#8220;United States&#8221; they would have an entirely different strategy than if they were dealing with the third definition, wouldn&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>And if you have a court opinion you would like comments on, please cite it for us.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, you&#039;re saying that everything the supreme court says is correct....they&#039;re infallible...like gods or something?  You can cite the courts all you want, but when they&#039;re wrong, they&#039;re wrong. 
 
For example, there was a time when the court ruled that black people were less than human, in essence.  Would you have cited them as some kind of authority back then too? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you&#039;re saying that everything the supreme court says is correct&#8230;.they&#039;re infallible&#8230;like gods or something?  You can cite the courts all you want, but when they&#039;re wrong, they&#039;re wrong. </p>
<p>For example, there was a time when the court ruled that black people were less than human, in essence.  Would you have cited them as some kind of authority back then too? </p>
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