Kill the Bill, Invoke the 10th

By on March 21, 2010 in Activism, Constitution, Health Care, Nullification
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by Brian Roberts

The federal government takeover of the health care industry and your loss of medical freedom only lacks a Presidential signature to become a federal law. We the people know that this cannot stand if America is to remain a free country. Keep your head up, it is time to invoke the 10th and kill this bill and the others soon to follow once and for all.

Lenin said:

“Medicine is the keystone of the arch of socialism” and “The goal of socialism is communism.”

Thomas Jefferson said:

“Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are unauthoritative, void, and of no force”

Ignore Washington D.C.

They are ignoring you, return the favor. In his speech on Saturday, Obama referred to you as “astroturf”. In political terminology that insinuates that you were paid for your phone calls and someone picked up your travel expenses and bought your dinner for your troubles. That’s one way they ignore you. Another way they ignore you is to use an unscrupulous process to pass an unconstitutional health care bill that changes the foundation of your country overnight.

If you’re like me, when you call representatives, write letters or attend tea parties, you pick up the tab and sacrifice your own personal time in hopes that someone will listen. I’d much rather spend my time and money with my family, business or hobbies than hoping my actions will result in my federal representatives actually representing. And anyone that could have done anything about the health care bill is in Washington D.C., you can’t meet with them, you don’t know them and you cannot reasonably hold them accountable. How can you really expect them to feel any pressure to represent you? Yes, morally your expectations are valid because they should do the will of the people. Unfortunately, the reality is without the power to exert an opposing force, you will continue to be disregarded as a mere annoyance.

Own your State

Last year, I wrote a series of articles for Tenth Amendment Center entitled, “Crossing the Chasm to Freedom”. Using business experience as a template, I argued that the best way to enter a market (in this case a political market) is to dominate a small market, own it and then expand from there. This is a well-known marketing strategy among early stage technology companies. The reason this works is that your limited resources can be used to exert a dominant influence on an identified target and you can expand from there. This is the same strategy that the allies used in World War II to captured the beachhead in Normandy and from there liberate the entire continent of Europe. Imagine the level of failure that the allies would have experienced if the same brave soldiers that took the beach were airdropped all across the countryside. It would have been a complete failure.

In our case, the small market that we can dominate quickly is our state government. From here we can team with other like-minded states and form a block of resistance that has real legal possibilities, much more powerful than rallies, letters and phone calls. Owning our state governments is an absolute necessity.

Ignore the Feds, Empower the States

We have state governments for a reason. Regardless of what today’s media would have you believe, state representatives are not elected state paper-shufflers or federal mandates. State governments share power with the federal government as equal partners in a system designed to decentralize power and protect “we the people” from foreign and domestic threats.

Ignoring D.C. actually means that we must use state governments to defy unconstitutional federal laws, starting with the health care bill today. The federal government itself must be identified as the threat and we must use the legal power of our state governments under the 10th amendment to eliminate the threat, and formally ignore unconstitutional mandates.

Jefferson described the 10th as “the foundation of the Constitution” and added, “to take a single step beyond the boundaries thus specially drawn … is to take possession of a boundless field of power, no longer susceptible of any definition.”

The feds took that step today.

States have many constitutional options when dealing with the federal government including court challenges, nullification and interposition to name a few. Individually, you do not have these, so you must focus on using your influence to make sure your state representatives know about and are willing to use these tools. The first steps are already moving forward as 37 states have introduced Health Care Freedom legislation. In addition, state attorney generals have already stated their intention to challenge these federal bills as unconstitutional.

Individually, “we the people” have a very important role too. We must influence our state representatives, and then encourage them. And, when the going gets tough we must stand shoulder to shoulder with them in defiance of what will be an intimidating federal response. “Ignore the feds, empower the states” must be our mantra.

Expect a Federal Response

Ghandi had it nailed:

“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. “

For the most part, the federal government has ignored any resistance to the health care bill. Tea Parties have been ridiculed as radicals of all varieties such as “tea baggers”, “astroturf”, “racists”, and “domestic terrorists”. But, they have never formally acknowledged the existence of this movement. Once we begin to focus our attention on the state governments, everything changes. The media will be unable to ignore a block of defiant states. Personally, you will be ridiculed as a “tenther” (I think this is pretty cool) but once states exhibit defiance it will not be long before the federal government shifts it’s focus to the states not the individuals. That’s when you will know that you are not being ignored anymore.

At a minimum, your state will be ridiculed as out of touch with reality, as constitutional rogues, racists, and more. The governor of your state and your state representatives will be positioned as little more than common rabble rousers and will be the target of incredible pressure to compromise. But this must be overcome before we can win and we must solidly stand with state representatives. Federal funds will be used to coerce states to comply as has been common practice for some time. This will be specifically painful with health care because defiant state’s federal funds will be used to finance compliant state’s health care. However, this cannot be allowed to stand for any significant amount of time so states must be influenced to pass state legislation that denies the federal government what they covet most, tax revenue.

From here on, resolve will be the key. Not just your resolve, but the resolve of the rest of the citizens in your state. So it’s our responsibility to educate neighbors and make sure the right state representatives are in place.

Win

reclaiming-american-revolutionIn order for us to reset this country and return to spending time with our businesses, families and hobbies; we must again in no uncertain terms confirm the revolutionary message that the people are the source of power. The federal government must fear the people, and the state governments are the legal method in which to achieve this goal. Jefferson clarified the goal:

“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

Ignore the Feds, Empower the States.

Brian Roberts [send him email] is the State Chapter Coordinator for the Texas Tenth Amendment Center

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vazzir

Are you referring to this bill:

Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution..

“ The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ”

-Wanda Gray
-Wanda Gray

A friend of mine posted the following on one of the groups I belong to. I hope you will get behind the request.

While I was trying to get a meeting with Gov. Perry, they requested an "agenda." Well, with input from others, these were the issues that came up most often. If you can think of others, please let me know. We must get our Governor and his Attorney General to pass legislation and take the appropriate actions that protect and defend us from Washington. We must make the Washington bureacrats actions indefensible and a vioation of TEXAS LAWS. Texas should be leading this movement and legislation. Please unite with other groups across Texas and send this invitation. Share this with your other groups and Texas friends. Thank you.

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Please copy and paste into your email (with appropriate edits) and send the invitation to to Gov. Perry. If you think of anything else we need to add this, please let me know. We would like for him to work with us:

invite@governor.state.tx.us

Dear Gov. Perry,

I have sent emails and made phone calls to your office to: (a) request a meeting with you to discuss your position and the powers associated with your office, as Governor of Texas; (b) assist with your re-election; (c) obtain a schedule of your appearances, especially on April 15 at a Tax Day Tea Party event so we can attend and support you; and finally, (d) request action by you in your next term Governor of Texas.

I called your office today and spoke with a young man in your scheduling office. His response, and I quote, "I am just a state employee and I don't know anything." He is an employee working in YOUR office. Therefore, he is more than "just a state employee." He represents you to your constituents.

Texas patriots are requesting a meeting with you, at a time and location designated by you or your representative, to hear your views and to discuss with you the following topics/issues:

1. Immediate call for the Texas Volunteer Militia to: (a) assist our border patrol; (b) guard private property on our border with Mexico; and (c) protect Texans from any invasion.
Stop the influx of illegal immigrants into our country by way of Texas. If we covered the border for weeks, even months, word would get out to them and they would stop coming. Gradually, the number of militia could be reduced with an unspecified spike and reduction of the troops. It's time to take a stand on this, and I know that I and all Texans would gladly volunteer. The TX Volunteer Militia is exempt from federal mandates and CANNOT BE CALLED UP during a federal emergency. When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?
2. State licensing NOT federal licensing for Class III weapons used by the Texas Volunteer Militia members. When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

3. Nullification: When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

4. What will you do to assert state's rights to protect Texans from unconstitutional acts and limit the ever-expanding role of the federal government in our everyday lives? When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

5. What will you do to prevent the potential increase in ancillary taxes (i.e., restaurant, income, social security, medical devices, etc.) being assessed to cover hellcare? Correspondingly, how do you plan to make Texas independent and self-sufficient, and not dependent on receipt of federal funds? When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

6. Please explain, step by step, an outline of what policies you will implement during your next term, should you be re-elected, abd how you intend to implement them. When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

7. Immediately call for an emergency meeting of the Texas Legislature to adopt the necessary legislation to protect Texans. We need for you to do this NOW! When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?

8. Pass legislation that addresses intrastate versus interstate gun and ammunition manufacturing and sales.
Pass a law to exempt firearms made and used exclusively in Texas from federal firearms laws and regulations, similar to the legislation passed in Wyoming, Montana, Tennessee, and Utah. Similar legislation is being considered by Idaho and Alaska. When can we expect to see such action or corresponding legislation?
Thank you for your prompt response. I look forward to hearing from you.

God save this Republic and the great State of Texas.

With warm regards,

Pepe LaGonda
Pepe LaGonda

The Original & only True 13th Amendment was 'stolen' by the Insiders in July, 1868; confirm it by searching your State Archives, circa 1860's; it is published here - Colorado Territory Legislative Acts, annually, 1861-1867; then it was "disappeared" and replaced by re-numbering the Original 14th Amendment, about Abolishing slavery...! Then the Fraudulent 14th was published, labeling all American-born people as "citizens SUBJECTS of Government..." a 180 degree switch from "We the People..." as the sovereigns of all governments! It is also the source upon which SCOTUS relies in its findings that fictious entities - corps'er'ations, etc. are "persons"; thus, they are accorded equal 'free speech' & other Rights/Freedoms, intended for natural people only, by our Founders. Have your State Archivist issue Certifications of Excerpts you will find in your state's public records, as required by the organic/foundational Northwest Ordinance; - applicable to about 32 Union States up to 1869. the objective is to remove ALL lawyers from ANY elective office of "...Trust or Profit..."! Go get 'em!

Pepe LaGonda
Pepe LaGonda

New Comment:
Also, resurrect the Original and only True 13th Amendment about no lawyers in government/No Titles of Nobility or Honours... it will require research, then educating the awakening 'moron majority' of We the People;

Pepe LaGonda
Pepe LaGonda

Above, 'Paine' asked for alternatives, to go with "Invoke the 10th"; - here are some: Re-read, study the Founding documents; State by State- serve Notice and Demand to revoke the 17th Amendment; such action would begin to restore the out-of-balance sharing of Powers as originally intended by the Founders; it would also end the 'whine' about SCOTUS recent decision to enable corps'er'ations, unions, other 'collectives' to buy our US Senators. Organize statewide Peoples' Grand Jury [no liar-lawyers allowed] according to common law as preserved within organic/foundational Northwest Ordinance [July, 1787]. Convene Peoples' Common Law Grand Juries, to take testimony, assemble evidence, concerning and DEFINING 'Treason' against the Constitution as Acts of Treason against the American people within [your sovereign] State. Upon findings and Indictments of a State's Congressional delegation members, publish said indictments.

Ron
Ron

Amendment XXVIII:
Section 1. The sixteenth, seventeenth, and twenty-seventh articles of amendment to the Constitution of the United States are hereby repealed.
Section 2. Congress shall make no law respecting compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, including, but not limited to, monetary benefits such as pensions and other amenities; but each State shall ascertain by law, and pay out of the Treasury of that State, the compensation and amenities of the Representatives and Senators delegated by that State.
Section 3. Each State shall have power to limit the number of terms of service of the Representatives and Senators delegated by that State, and each State may impeach any Senator delegated by that state for any reason, in a manner to be prescribed by the laws of that State.

Explanation: No more direct income tax (16th amendment), each Senator will have to represent the interests of their respective state or they will be summarily thrown out (repeals 17th amendment and modifies portions of Article I), the States will once again have a direct voice in Congress (Article I, section 3, clause 1), and Congress no longer pays itself (27th amendment and Article I, section 6, clause 1), but are limited by the states which they represent; that is, the agent gets paid by the master, rather than the agent telling the master what pay they shall receive.

These changes ought to restore the limited sovereignty of the States, and prevent usurpation by the federal government - unless, of course, the States themselves want such usurpation. Then, all we have to worry about are our state legislatures respectively. A side benefit may be that "...direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers.." Article I, section 2, paragraph 3. That is, ear marks will be severely limited by the strict scrutiny of each state jealous of their taxpayers revenue. Furthermore, special interests at the national level will have less sway than special interests at the state level.

Lock Piatt
Lock Piatt

There is no doubt America is at the fabled crossroad, one way leads to freedom and joy for all citizens under a Constitutional Republic and the other way leads to a Fascist super federal government dictating the operations of all businesses such as salaries paid, benefits provided by law, profits limited by tax rates, investment directed by government controlled banks, manufacturing controlled by the EPA and OSHA, travel controlled by super high fuel costs, farming controlled with the rationing of water, mining and oil/gas exploration stopped, housing choices limited to high rise 800 SF units in the new superplex city center, gun ownership removed, hunting and fishing halted, internet access limited, employment growth is only in government service unions.

Lock Piatt
Lock Piatt

There is no doubt America is at the fabled crossroad, one way leads to freedom and joy for all citizens under a Constitutional Republic and the other way leads to a Fascist super federal government dictating the operations of all businesses such as salaries paid, benefits provided by law, profits limited by tax rates, investment directed by government controlled banks, manufacturing controlled by the EPA and OSHA, travel controlled by super high fuel costs, farming controlled with the rationing of water, mining and oil/gas exploration stopped, housing choices limited to high rise 800 SF units in the new superplex city center, gun ownership removed, hunting and fishing halted, internet access limited, employment growth is only in government service unions.

ONLY A SERIOUS CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE CAN SAVE AMERICA FROM THE ABOVE SITUATION WHICH IS MOSTLY IN PLACE AT THE CURRENT TIME.

Time for action on the restoration of the Constitution is long past but there appears to be a small window with the present Supreme Court; four conservative Constitutionalists, one swing voter (Kennedy) and four liberal view of a open document Constitution. If Obama is re elected he will possibly be able to appoint more than one Justice and then all will be lost leaving only revolution and civil disobedience as an option for freedom.

Hecklerati
Hecklerati

I wrote a long and well worded comment here and it was deleted. there was no bad language only an argument that Americans are blinded by their own distrust in govenment. Clearly even in this blog, democracy no longer exists

Marshall Keith
Marshall Keith

We are not a Democracy we are in fact a Constitutional Republic. John Adams defined a constitutional republic as “a government of laws, and not of men.” Constitutional republics are a deliberate attempt to diminish the perceived threat of majoritarianism, thereby protecting dissenting individuals and minority groups from the “tyranny of the majority” by placing checks on the power of the majority of the population.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7M-7LkvcVw&fe...

Your words of Inhumane dysfunctional government are the same talking points that the rest of the collectivist try to use to guilt individuals who believe in individual rights where the individual gets to choose what charities to give to. Now the collectivist are not charitable people unless it is with other peoples money and then it is at gunpoint. If you think that is an exaggeration it is not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWsx1X8PV_A&fe...

gcx
gcx

REMEMBER in NOVEMBER! We need a rallying cry, I think Remember in November says it all! We should print up T-shirts, hats, buttons etc saying it. Everyone should periodically begin or end comments in different forums with it until it catches on, goes viral whatever that means exactly. I just saw Newt Gingrich on Hannity saying we've got 2 chances to get it right or we're done, November, then 2012. Do you all want your country back?

Brian McCandliss
Brian McCandliss

I don't understand how this law can POSSIBLY be considered Constitutional.

This Health Care bill forces people to buy insurance, which is a clear TAKING of pivate property for public use, and without due legal process; that's an outright violation of the 5th Amendment.

Likewise, NOTHING in the Constiution delegates federal power to control health-care, therefore this violates the 10th Amendment-- and isn't that what this website is supposed to be about?

Hecklerati
Hecklerati

Sadly Americans have a pretty dysfunctional government. This makes you all resist even the most obvious changes and it also seems to make certain parts of the population rather paranoid.

Europeans look at the American "health" system with mild disbelief. It is incredible to us (England, France, Spain, Italy, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc) that a civilized country such as the USA has such a useless and inhuman system of "caring".
Americans have allowed their health care system to be hijacked by gangsters who charge you 20 dollars for an aspirin and all kinds of related scams. Your system is in fact so bad that even the people reforming it can no longer see what a sensible alternative should be. Make no mistake. there is no freedom in acting as individuals when dealing with health care. This is something you need when you are unable to run around living the American dream and therefore reliant upon others to help you.
The very people resisting this pathetic attempt to catch up with European standards and efficiency are in fact the unknowing errand boys for the corporations they hate so much. It is beyond belief that a nation of otherwise intelligent individuals should react like such children over this issue.
If the current bill makes no difference or aggravates the problem, it will only be because there was no popular will to deal with the real problem that is privatized profiteering on the misery that is illness. So while you all argue your self into bankruptcy, I will go and have my annual checkup with a nice private doctor here in Norway in his lovely office, have a huge battery of tests and pay maybe 15 dollars on the way out. Good luck to you all.
PS. Contrary to popular belief, all European democracies are in fact not Socialist. We leave that to the Chinese. Stay well.

Martel
Martel

Yeah, our (RIP) private medical system was so terrible that people from all over the world come here for treatment. People from countries with "free" socialized medicine. You need to tell all those Canadians who come to the USA for medical care that they are mistaken and must be imagining those 18 month waiting lists for surgical procedures back home. My orthopedist is Canadian (lots of their best doctors move here) and he said he has access to more diagnostic capability in his hospital here than he had in his entire province when he was practicing in Canada. I've also got a friend who married an Englishman and experienced child birth in one of their NHS hospitals. I'll put it this way, they are moving here.

Norway is a tiny and homogeneous country, you cannot reasonably project your experience with social medicine onto the USA. We have single cities with more people than your whole country, and are a people who still largely reject efforts to have us spend the whole of our lives in a government womb.

When you say European democracies are not socialist, you use the capitalized form, which I have found most Europeans use interchangeably with communist. Under that definition you're right, as private property still exists in Europe. But when we use the word socialist, we mean that system which differs by degrees from communism but still has intimate state management of the economy, and by extension the lives of individuals. A managed economy necessarily means a managed population, no matter what window dressing is applied to it. To each his own I guess, but still a majority in America doesn't want the state as a surrogate parent.

I would also make the assertion that the postwar development of the European social welfare state was to a significant degree subsidized by American capitalism. European expenditure on defense has long been a sore point among NATO, and without the umbrella of American defense picking up the slack, it is hard to imagine a scenario where the Soviet Union could not have rolled over western Europe with relative ease. If Europe had allocated defense funding necessary to provide a legitimate and independent deterrent to Soviet aggression, it is likewise hard to imagine a scenario where elaborate social welfare apparatus could be afforded.

But here is the ultimate American hesitation with regards to socialism. The state which is elaborate and omnipresent enough to shield its people from every perceived social difficulty is also the state with the necessary apparatus to become an instrument of tyranny. The Constitution of the US is predicated on notions that governments naturally regress to autocracy, and that this tendency should be opposed by making it deliberately difficult for the government to become overly involved in the lives of its people.

Anyhow though, it is a case of differing preferences expressed at a national level. I don't see why Europeans need to feel smug. A lot of things taken for granted in Europe make me shake my head in disbelief just as much as you seemingly do about our approach to medicine. Let's see how well the European social welfare model performs when the continent is overwhelmed by Islam.

Andrew Jones
Andrew Jones

There's no doubt in my mind that supporters of this bill got lush kickbacks. Meanwhile, we'll have IRS agents giving us some kicks of our own.

Kevin
Kevin

Two Significant Events in History took place yesterday, 3/22. The first was on this date in 1765 the British Parliament, against the will and without any representation from the American Colonies, passed the Stamp Act. This tax directly affected the middle to wealthy class and ushered in a decade of hostility towards Britain that united the nine colonies for the first time. So effective was the opposition that very few stamps were ever sold. As we later know this was the precursor to the American Revolution.
The second significance is once again in history on 3/22/2010, 245 years later, the democrat party passed Obamacare over the overwhelming opposition of the American People. Again, a highly undesirable tax without the representation of the people. Effectively the democrats declared war upon the American Citizens. Already 13 state attorney generals and many more to come (last estimate is 24 more states) are suing the Federal Government (Democrats) to stop Obamacare. The first time in a very long time (Virginia-Kentucky Resolutions 1798 and 1799) states are uniting to peacefully fight back.

Scott Booth
Scott Booth

Any one who doesn't believe this is a Gov. take over on health care didn't listen to V.P. Biden when he said," We're going to control the Insurance Companies". Really? I Doubt it!! Their money is real, not borrowed from China. The only thing Ins. Co's understand is competition, and they have none.
I think the Passing of this flawed H.C. bill, takes back seat to the Democrats complete ignoring the American People except for the name calling to all those that opposed their take-over.
Here in Missouri our "Health Care Freedom Act SJR25", having passed the House goes before the Senate Wed. March 24Th. , and than before the people to vote on, which will pass I'm sure.

Dave
Dave

Finally, you guys make the 10th Amendment message relevant to a broad audience. Better late than never ......

Pete Dooley
Pete Dooley

Never forget that the last time the states rights bafoons held sway, five hundred thousand Americans died, cities were burned and all hell broke loose. Democracy doesn't always work the way you want. We (the people) had to put up with years upon years of deficit spending, war, corporate raiding and near economic collapse at the hands of conservatives. Be forwarned, the states rights guys got their asses handed to them the last time. I live in a state (in the south) that has had to be bailed out by the Federal government. Your premise is idiotic.

IhrPaulRvr
IhrPaulRvr

Everything you just said about cons. has been going on longer with libs. And now look at what this guy in office now has managed to do in one year. We've never had deficits like we have now, and he can't blame Bush for that. We have two diametrically opposed political philosophies occupying the same place at the same time,and it just ain't working. I think we're on the road to civil war whether we want it or not. I believe the socialists in Washington will instigate it because it serves they're purpose. Empowering State Legislators and Governors is our only real solution.

GCX
GCX

I'd rather die fighting for what I believe in than die with a boot on my neck! Seeing how the military is predominately conservative and must surely see the writing on the wall that they're about to be hollowed out, I'd love to see who's side they'd take! And don't forget, it's conservative's that believe in the 2nd amendment!

theunknownamerican
theunknownamerican

There is nothing like violent overtones where a civilized debate about the powers of the constitution should take place. Do you often get this violent when other people talk about asserting their rights?

okar
okar

What last time? Any State or Business that has to be bailed out are idiots, who can't take care of themselves.

lbp
lbp

It is time for a new AMENDMENT to the Constitution. It only takes 35 state to get the ball going.
It could read Congress shell make no laws requiring the individual to purchase or be required to enroll into a government program. all present laws requiring such, has 90 days of enactment of this amendment to be approve anually by 2/3's vote of both houses in order to continue on the books. This should put a stop to this crap..... lbp

Marshall Keith
Marshall Keith

Actually it only takes 33 states to get the ball rolling. From article V of the constitution.

Two-thirds of the state legislatures may apply to Congress for a constitutional convention to consider amendments, which are then sent to the states for approval.

Once the amendment is ratified by 3/4 of the states it becomes part of the Constitution and does not require annual approval. It is permanent until repealed.

Craig
Craig

Why even give them 90 days or the opportunity for a 2/3 vote?

fleethewrathtocome
fleethewrathtocome

How about a campaign to petition the states' Attorney Generals to join the lawsuits. Some of them are democrats and haven't smelled the coffee yet. If a letter was drafted that provided a well-written summary of how this is going to cost the states more money than they have to spend (or could dream of having to spend) and specific ways that it is unconstitutional, then it could be used/improvised and many citizens send it to their offices state by state.

GCX
GCX

I love the general strike idea, a page right out of the communist playbook. Use their own tactics against them. I know it would never happen, but it would sure send quite a message if all the Doctors that oppose this cramdown were to go on strike. I realize the Hippocratic Oath etc would come in to play, but if they thought the greater good would be served by doing so......... It's not like Obama could fire all the Drs like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. Plus, if the majority of Americans don't support Obamacare and you were a Dr striking against it, think of all the business you'd get afterward! Man, I'd give my right arm to see that! Drs are held in so much higher esteem than politicians, it's not likely they'd go after them. Who knows with this administration though.

I thought the key to all this fed govt over reach has been the 10th for over a year now, but does anyone think this administration that has gone against the will of the overwhelming majority will care about a states right's stand? We're fighting a guerilla war people, AND WE'RE LOSING! It's like fighting Al-Qaeda that refuses to wear a uniform so you can ID them - they're Socialists, but when you call them such, they deny it. E.g. the Maxine Waters video when she tried to choke back the word "Socialize". I'm saying this as a veteran, (and go ahead and call me crazy), but I'd love to see those 37 states get together and secede! Ever since the feds usurped their powers and began social engineering, it's only gotten steadily worse. As great as Reagan was and I'm honored to have served under him, did he change any of this social engineering BS? I say split the country down the middle - let them have their Socialist Utopia on one side and we'll follow a shored up original constitution on our side and let's see how quickly they implode. Like I said, call me crazy, but I'd bet everything I own that Thomas Jefferson would share my sentiment! True patriots should at least start thinking about putting it on their lips. They may not care about the 10th amendment, but EVERYONE cares about staring down the barrel of a gun. Texas.... South Carolina, where are you?! Sincerely sorry if my rantings are putting anyone on this site in an undesirable light, but this is how strongly I feel about what's happening to my once great country. And as an American and a veteran, I believe strongly in my right to express my opinion - and I'm just exercising that right while I still have the ability to do so! Good luck 10thers, I believe it is our best peaceful hope.

Doc
Doc

By the way, some of these sites are making a big deal about many states "declaring" for state sovereignty, but w/o linking to anything in the way of documentation of this. Anyone have this information, please? I hope this is not just a sham.

Don
Don

Look under the tac state groups on this "kill the bill" page. click on the Oklahoma report.

Don
Don

You might want to look at what Oklahoman's will be voting for this next election. Other states ought to follow their lead. go OU

Doc
Doc

This might be a sensible, effective approach. We have, after all, nullified the "Universa ID Act" in several states.

Doc
Doc

What is the deal here? Have I pushed some buttons, entered an excessively long message...or what?

Doc
Doc

In response to the guy who called for a doctors strike, I merely said:

The point is that if more or less EVERYONE said "no," this be like putting sand in the gears of the "MACHINE" and an aspect of this junk system would grind to a halt. No, Virginia, it is not socialism or communism, but forces with a hidden agenda which will use ANYTHING IT CAN to realize this treasonable One World Gov't/neverenending warfare/"free trade" nonsense. I'm not in total agreement with the John Birch Society (was a member for some years), but this is one group which realizes what is really going on here...at the most fundamental level. Lots of lies and manipulation, including engineering this 9/11 disaster, which made it EASY to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and serious compromise of our frundamental rights, and a MASSIVE national debt (much of it to Communist China, For God's sake!). We have been bambozzled, and most Americans haven't a clue!!

Doc
Doc

I just posted a comment, and was IMMEDIATELY deleted. As I said nothing salacious, and I am in support of Tenth Amendment nullification, I am mystified by this action. What goes, guys?

Andy
Andy

Somebody probably flagged your comment. It happens all the time in comments sections on the internet. People don't agree with what you say, so they get their panties in a wad and hit the report button.

I don't think you post has been 'deleted'. Usually it is just removed for moderation, and will show up again whenever the website managers have a chance to determine that it was appropriate.

GCX
GCX

I thought the key to all this fed govt over reach has been the 10th for over a year now, but does anyone think this administration that has gone against the will of the overwhelming majority will care about a states right's stand? We're fighting a guerilla war people, AND WE'RE LOSING! It's like fighting Al-Qaeda that refuses to wear a uniform so you can ID them - they're Socialists, but when you call them such, they deny it. E.g. the Maxine Waters video when she tried to choke back the word "Socialize". I'm saying this as a veteran, (and go ahead and call me crazy), but I'd love to see those 37 states get together and secede! Ever since the feds usurped their powers and began social engineering, it's only gotten steadily worse. As great as Reagan was and I'm honored to have served under him, did he change any of this social engineering BS? I say split the country down the middle - let them have their Socialist Utopia on one side and we'll follow a shored up original constitution on our side and let's see how quickly they implode. Like I said, call me crazy, but I'd bet everything I own that Thomas Jefferson would share my sentiment! True patriots should at least start thinking about putting it on their lips. They may not care about the 10th amendment, but EVERYONE cares about staring down the barrel of a gun. Texas.... South Carolina, where are you?! Sincerely sorry if my rantings are putting anyone on this site in an undesirable light, but this is how strongly I feel about what's happening to my once great country. And as an American and a veteran, I believe strongly in my right to express my opinion - and I'm just exercising that right while I still have the ability to do so! Good luck 10thers, I believe it is our best peaceful hope.

GCX
GCX

I love the general strike idea, a page right out of the communist playbook. Use their own tactics against them. I know it would never happen, but it would sure send quite a message if all the Doctors that oppose this cramdown were to go on strike. I realize the Hippocratic Oath etc would come in to play, but if they thought the greater good would be served by doing so......... It's not like Obama could fire all the Drs like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. Plus, if the majority of Americans don't support Obamacare and you were a Dr striking against it, think of all the business you'd get afterward! Man, I'd give my right arm to see that! Drs are held in so much higher esteem than politicians, it's not likely they'd go after them. Who knows with this administration though.

Doc
Doc

This so called "health reform act," when it comes down to it, is extortion on a massive scale. Be nice to see millions of American citizens "Just say no!!"

Doc
Doc

The point is that if more or less EVERYONE said "no," this would be like putting sand in the gears of the "MACHINE" and an aspect of this junk system would grind to a halt. No, Virginia, it is not socialism or communism, but forces with a hidden agenda which will use ANYTHING IT CAN to realize this treasonable One World Gov't/neverenending warfare/"free trade" nonsense. I'm not in agreement totally with the John Birch Society (was a member for some years), but this is one group which realizes what is really going on here...at the most fundamental level. Lots of lies and manipulation, including engineering this 9/11 disaster, which made it EASY to justify the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We have been bambozzled, and most Americans haven't a clue!!

GCX
GCX

I love the general strike idea, a page right out of the communist playbook. Use their own tactics against them. I know it would never happen, but it would sure send quite a message if all the Doctors that oppose this cramdown were to go on strike. I realize the Hippocratic Oath etc would come in to play, but if they thought the greater good would be served by doing so......... It's not like Obama could fire all the Drs like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. Plus, if the majority of Americans don't support Obamacare and you were a Dr striking against it, think of all the business you'd get afterward! Man, I'd give my right arm to see that! Drs are held in so much higher esteem than politicians, it's not likely they'd go after them. Who knows with this administration though.

I thought the key to all this fed govt over reach has been the 10th for over a year now, but does anyone think this administration that has gone against the will of the overwhelming majority will care about a states right's stand? We're fighting a guerilla war people, AND WE'RE LOSING! It's like fighting Al-Qaeda that refuses to wear a uniform so you can ID them - they're Socialists, but when you call them such, they deny it. E.g. the Maxine Waters video when she tried to choke back the word "Socialize".

Monorprise
Monorprise

Outstanding article and plan!

Ultimately we will need to deal with their tax powers, or the whole constitutional house of cards becomes academic.

We may also need to be-looking at the possibility of a convention, to repeal Constitutional federal authority, in order to more practically enforce the remainder of the Federal Constitution.

May God help us save our FREE American States...

theunknownamerican
theunknownamerican

We should remove the income tax. Its being used as a power to enforce this.

Monorprise
Monorprise

O I agree whole heartedly, but there are other problems that need be addressed that go far deeper then simply the abusive 16th amendment.

I would support the fixing of any and/or all of theses issues in a clear unambiguous way:

* The court which resolves Federal Constitutional matters must be accountable to the State not
Federal government power interest, or there can be no effective federal Constitution which protect the rights of those it rules period.

* Land ownership issues with regard to the Federal Government must be reformed as to deny the
Federal government the ability to clam sovereignty ownership of land indefinitely without host state
approval. (see western land hording issue, and coastal land expansion issues) Federal sovereign ownership must be clearly distinguished from Federal economic ownership with the former being under state domestic laws absolute, and the latter being beyond State sovereignty authority as if separate like that of D.C. and federal military bases.

* Federal Tax powers must be more clearly state to eliminate the vast majority of the abusive federal
powers over the individuals. Perhaps by means of requiring every federal spending act to be part of a program which must be funded by a specific set of taxes that can then be nullify by State authority if any part of that program be deemed beyond the Federal Governments authority. Effectively reserving to the States and their people the ability to opt out of such programs, both benefits and burdens alike.

* The 17th amendment must be repealed in-order to restore some level of practical check on federal power helping to preventing the initial usurpation in the establishment of theses programs in the first place.

* The 16th amendment must be repealed in order to restore the link between the power to tax and the power to spend.

* The 14th amendment must be repealed to elemental its countless absorptive uses from forcefully robing the people of their right to protect their weakest and most helpless(the unborn) from being murdered.(Roe v. Wade depended upon incorporation of the 9th upon the states). Among other just as aggressive usurpation such as our right to freedom of religion with regard to our State government happenstance involvement. As well as deal with the practical issues that arise from automatic birth right citizenship regardless of the illegal immigration status.

* Balanced budget except for military spending in the limited duration of a time of Declared War.

Monorprise
Monorprise

lol One could say the same thing about most of the 14th amendment if it were "interpreted" correctly.

The problem is it never will be and the amendment is soo badly written and easily exposed to such abuse by enabling the Federal government to deal directly with individuals Taking over all the practical authority of the states. Thus breaking the division of powers that is so vital by enabling the Federal Government to overwrite the states in their own domain and thus become the sole government.

Our liberty will never be safe so long as the 14th amendment is in place.

The truth is you don't need or want a federal "equal protection clause" you can no more trust the Federal courts to respect your rights then you can trust the state court's the only difference is with the State courts you at least have the option of voting with your feet should things go horribly wrong.

So it is a most foolish choice to wish to have such "equal protection" applied at the Federal level in a practical sense, as the ease a which such a concept can be and has been abused is too dangerous a power to put in 1 federal basket.

Monorprise
Monorprise

lol One could say the same thing about most of the 14th amendment if it were "interpreted" correctly. the problem is it never will be and the amendment is soo badly written and easily exposed to such abuse by enabling the Federal government to deal directly with individuals that we will never be safe so long as it is in place.

theunknownamerican
theunknownamerican

I actually think the 14th amendment needs to stay since it has an equal protection clause which is useful but needs to be interpretted correctly. It was designed to give people access to their procederial rights in the federal and state court systems since a lot of blacks were being denied those procedurial rights. It was not designed to protect natural rights of a person but a protection for procederial rights. That is my opinion.

Isaac
Isaac

I just wrote my state's AG as well as my state senators. I don't know if it will do anything.

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