The Sole and Express Purpose of the Census

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In a few weeks, every household in these United States will begin receiving the 2010 Census form in the mail. The long form used in the past has been replaced with a new short form. Beginning this year, information previously requested on the old long form will be incorporated into a separate document called the “American Community Survey.” This survey will be sent to a small percentage of the population on a rotating basis throughout the decade. According to the Census Bureau—“no household will receive the survey more often than once every five years.” Rumor has it this will be expanded, eventually, to cover every household during the 10 year period between the constitutionally mandated Census.

In a document entitled: “Questions Planned for the 2010 Census and American Community Survey,” all of the questions that will be asked can be viewed online [pdf].

Since the sole and express purpose of the Census, as stated in the Constitution, is for apportioning direct taxes and representatives among the several States, the question that needs to be addressed is – are these additional questions a legitimate constitutional exercise of power or just another usurpation of power?

Constitutional Provisions for the Census

The provision for the Census is found in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3. Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment modified the provision concerning representatives because the Thirteenth Amendment banned slavery. The Census Clause states, in part:

“Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Number… The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.”

A breakdown of this Clause shows:

  • An enumeration of the population is the only power granted to Congress by this Clause.
  • Apportioning direct taxes and representatives among the several States is the sole purpose of the power granted to Congress by this Clause.
  • Congress’ power to make laws concerning this Census is restricted to prescribing the method for conducting the “actual enumeration.”

Note: The number of representatives allocated to a State through the Census also determines how many electors a State will have in a presidential election.

Congress Admits the Sole Purpose of the Census is Apportionment

In 1997, Congress, in Pub. L. 105-119, title II, Sec. 209, Nov. 26, 1997, 111 Stat. 2480, found that?

“(1) it is the constitutional duty of the Congress to ensure that the decennial enumeration of the population is conducted in a manner consistent with the Constitution and laws of the United States;

(2) the sole constitutional purpose of the decennial enumeration of the population is the apportionment of Representatives in Congress among the several States…”

Congress, by its own admission, confirmed that the sole constitutional purpose of the Census is for apportioning representatives among the several States.

Note: The reader will note that Congress omitted any reference to the direct tax provision of the Census Clause in their finding. In my opinion, there could be several reasons for this omission but they are insignificant and do not detract from the importance of this admission.

The Census Bureau’s Statement on the Constitution

In a document entitled: “Census in the Constitution,” the Census Bureau states, in part:

“The U.S. Constitution empowers the Congress to carry out the census in ‘such manner as they shall by Law direct’ (Article I, Section 2).”

“In 1954, Congress codified earlier census acts and all other statutes authorizing the decennial census as Title 13, U.S. Code. Title 13, U.S. Code, does not specify which subjects or questions are to be included in the decennial census. However, it does require the Census Bureau to notify Congress of general census subjects to be addressed 3 years before the decennial census and the actual questions to be asked 2 years before the decennial census.” (Bold added)

Article I, Section 2 grants Congress the power to enact laws for the sole purpose of prescribing the method for conducting the enumeration. It does not grant Congress the authority to expand this limited power under the guise of the Census.

The Census Bureau then comes to the conclusion that?“Questions beyond a simple count are Constitutional.”

“It is constitutional to include questions in the decennial census beyond those concerning a simple count of the number of people because, on numerous occasions, the courts have said the Constitution gives Congress the authority to collect statistics in the census. As early as 1870, the Supreme Court characterized as unquestionable the power of Congress to require both an enumeration and the collection of statistics in the census. The Legal Tender Cases, Tex.1870; 12 Wall., U.S., 457, 536, 20 L.Ed. 287. In 1901, a District Court said the Constitution’s census clause (Art. 1, Sec. 2, Clause 3) is not limited to a headcount of the population and “does not prohibit the gathering of other statistics, if ‘necessary and proper,’ for the intelligent exercise of other powers enumerated in the constitution, and in such case there could be no objection to acquiring this information through the same machinery by which the population is enumerated. United States v. Moriarity, 106 F. 886, 891 (S.D.N.Y.1901).” (Bold added)

“In 2000, another District Court agreed and found that it there is no constitutional limit on collecting additional data, when necessary for governance. That court also said responses to census questions are not a violation of a citizen’s right to privacy or speech. Morales v. Daley, 116 F. Supp. 2d 801, 809 and 816. (S.D. Tex. 2000). These decisions are consistent with the Supreme Court’s recent description of the census as the “linchpin of the federal statistical system … collecting data on the characteristics of individuals, households, and housing units throughout the country.” Dept. of Commerce v. U.S. House of Representatives, 525 U.S. 316, 341 (1999).” (Bold added)

The reference to the Legal Tender Cases in 1870 is meaningless because the comment was dictum (a judge’s expression of opinion on a point other than the precise issue involved in determining the case). The statement by the Court was not the holding in the case.

A review of the syllabus of the 1999 Supreme Court case shows the issue before the Court was statistical sampling. The statement by the Census Bureau was not the holding of the case.

Their quotes from the 1901 and 2000 District Court cases do, however, reveal how the federal government is attempting to transform their additional information requests into a constitutional exercise of power.

Necessary and Proper

In the 1901 quote we find the words “necessary and proper.” These words appear in Article I, Section 8, Clause 18 of the Constitution. This provision grants Congress the power:

“To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”

The 2000 quote contains the words—“when necessary for governance.” Under the guise of the Census and through the power to prescribe the mode for conducting the actual enumeration, the federal government is using this Clause to transform its information requests into a valid exercise of constitutional authority. The federal government is asserting that when it determines information is “necessary for governance,” the request is proper irrespective of whether the clause in question grants them a power or limits their power.

The Purpose of the Necessary and Proper Clause

The purpose and extent of this Clause was put in simple language by George Nichols in the Virginia Ratifying Convention of 1788:

“The committee will perceive that the Constitution had enumerated all the powers which the general government should have, but did not say how they were to be exercised. It therefore, in this clause, tells how they shall be exercised. Does this give any new power? I say not. Suppose it had been inserted, at the end of every power, that they should have power to make laws to carry that power into execution; would that have increased their powers? If, therefore, it could not have increased their powers, if placed at the end of each power, it cannot increase them at the end of all. This clause only enables them to carry into execution the powers given to them, but gives them no additional power.”

This clause is preceded by seventeen specific grants of power. If you read these clauses and insert the language of Article I, Section 8, Clause 18 into each clause, as suggested by Nichols, it is apparent that this Clause is a limitation on congressional power and does not enlarge any of their constitutional powers.

The Necessary and Proper Clause cannot apply to the Census Clause

There are several reasons why, in my opinion, the Necessary and Proper Clause cannot constitutionally apply to the Census, or its evil companion, the American Community Survey, which masquerades as part of the actual Census.

First, the Census Clause contains a self-executing provision and does not require another clause, like the Necessary and Proper Clause, to put the power into effect. The Census Clause, standing alone, grants Congress the power to enact the laws necessary for prescribing the mode of conducting the actual enumeration. Since a simple headcount is the only power granted to Congress by the Census Clause, any questions beyond the number of people in the household, even if this Clause did not contain a self-executing provision, would not be proper because they are not necessary for putting the power into effect.

Second, according to the Census Bureau, the additional questions being asked on the 2010 Census are for “socioeconomic” purposes. The 2010 Census will ask for the name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, relationship and housing tenure of everyone in the household. If we remove the self-executing provision, noted above, and apply these questions through the Necessary and Proper Clause to the Census Clause, they are asserting that it is proper to ask for the name, sex, age, date of birth, race, ethnicity, relationship and housing tenure of everyone in the household because that information is necessary for conducting the headcount mandated by the Census Clause. This is an absurdity!

Third, there is no socioeconomic clause in the Constitution. Even if there were such a clause, it would be improper to use the Census Clause as the pretext to request information covered by another clause of the Constitution. Congress would have the power to request the information separate and apart from the Census.

Fourth, according to the Census Bureau, the American Community Survey “is part of the Decennial (10 year) Census Program.” The Constitution authorizes a 10-year Census count?not a 10-year Census program. Thus, it is not proper to use the Census Clause as the pretext for this so-called 10-year program.

Fifth, the American Community Survey, like the Census, asks for information that has absolutely nothing to do with apportioning direct taxes or representatives among the several States. The questions asked in the American Community Survey cover such topics as – fertility – grandparents as caregivers – health insurance coverage – plumbing facilities – income – place of work and journey to work – vehicles available – and so on and so forth. Thus, it is not proper to make the American Community Survey a component of the Census because the information obtained from the questions are not necessary for the headcount mandated by the Census Clause.

Sixth, none of the information obtained in a mid-decade survey can be used for apportioning direct taxes or representatives among the several States. Thus, it is not proper to make the American Community Survey a component of the Census because none of the information obtained from the questions can be used for the constitutional purposes of the Census.

Seventh, the Necessary and Proper Clause grants Congress the power to enact laws to put a specific power into effect. It does not grant Congress the power to use one clause as a pretext to extract information to put another clause into effect. This is exactly what they are attempting and I believe it is a blatant usurpation of power.

The Additional Questions Violate the Separation of Powers

In “Civil Disobedience and the Census,” I listed three constitutional principles in the first part of the article. The first and most important principle is the separation of power between the States and their federal government. Pursuant to this separation of power, the federal government was empowered to deal with foreign affairs and relations between the States while the States would concern themselves with domestic affairs.

The powers delegated to the federal government in the body of the Constitution come after this separation of power and are confined to the separation of power. In other words, the limited powers granted to the federal government only pertain to activities on one side of the separation of power fence not to activities on the other side of the fence.

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If you apply this separation of power to the additional questions asked in the Census and American Community Survey, these so-called socioeconomic questions do not fall within the categories of power granted to the federal government. Thus, the Necessary and Proper Clause cannot apply to a class of powers not granted to the federal government by the Constitution. These powers are reserved to the several States.

The Additional Questions are just Another Usurpation of Power

As shown above, the federal government is usurping power to justify the additional questions being asked in the Census and American Community Survey. The federal government will stop at nothing to expand its power over the people of these United States. In a few weeks you will be presented with a choice—either acquiesce to their demands or refuse to go along with this usurpation of power. Before you make your choice, stand in front of a mirror and ask yourself a question—“if not now…when?”

Bob Greenslade [send him email] has been writing for www.thepriceofliberty.org since 2003.

About Bob Greenslade

Bob Greenslade [send him email] has been writing for www.thepriceofliberty.org since 2003. Bob focuses his writing on issues surrounding the federal government and the Constitution. He believes politicians at the federal level, through ignorance or design, are systematically dismantling the Constitution in an effort to expand their power and consolidate control over the American people. He has dedicated himself to resurrecting the true intent of the Constitution in the hope that the information will contribute, in some small way, to restoring the system of limited government established by the Constitution.

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38 comments
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# 4http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/03/13/the-sole-and-express-purpose-of-the-census/
Bob Greenslade
This told me that the sole and express purpose of the census is to count the amount
# 5http://www.redstate.com/rep_patrick_mchenry/2010/04/01/returning-the-census-is-our-constitutional-duty/
Author Rep. Patrick McHenry
this site generally told me that if democratic (or republican) voters don’t fill out the census then they technically don’t exist and they will give republican (or democratic) voters a win it also pointed out a tiny part in Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 that gives the census a lot more power then it needs
# 6http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/04/01/416364/mail-it-the-census-is-counting.html
It basically said that the national average for the census return rate was or is 52%
# 7http://interact.stltoday.com/blogzone/talk-of-the-day/talk-of-the-day/2010/03/2068/
It told me that the census is now sending out a letter to the us residents that tells them that they are going to send another letter that will contain the actual census

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zzz

In a few weeks, every household in these United States will begin receiving the 2010 Census form in the mail. The long form used in the past has been replaced with a new short form. Beginning this year, information previously requested on the old long form will be incorporated into a separate document called the “American Community Survey.” This survey will be sent to a small percentage of the population on a rotating basis throughout the decade. According to the Census Bureau—“no household will receive the survey more often than once every five years.” Rumor has it this will be expanded, eventually, to cover every household during the 10 year period between the constitutionally mandated Census.

what kind of crap is this

zzz
zzz

the shit

Lawrence J
Lawrence J

I challenge anyone to show me WHERE in the Constitution the Census Bureau is granted the RIGHT to ask questions other than the number of people in the house! Ours cane today and all I have filled out is the NUMBER of people living in this house. That is all the b&%$#@(* are going to get. Judge Anthony Napolitano who is Fox News judicial analyst has stated on several occasions that the government has NO RIGHT to ask questions other than the NUMBER of people in the home. Look up what "enumeration means in the dictionary, any dictionary. It means: TO COUNT! This illegal power grab for more and more personal information by the government has got to stop, and it has yet to be challenged in the Supreme Court. If it makes it that far, if the justices rule any other way than the Constitution has stated, they are subverting the law themselves.

Deed
Deed

Ok I have one quick Question?

How can the Goverment have laws on the books to fight gender, race, and age discrimination but we have to answer these questions on the census?

Jen
Jen

So what questions our we required to answer on the short form census?

The other Mark R
The other Mark R

10 years ago I returned the census with the following statement:
"Because of my truly held religious beliefs and practices I cannot answer these questions." I have used that statement dozens of times without any problems. It goes back to a 1968 Supreme Court ruling resulting in somehting called the "Seager Doctrine" in which no one can challenge or force you to reveal or explain your religious beliefs and practices. They are personal and private between you and your God and are upheld by the Consittution's 1st Amendment. As such you cannot be forced to anything against your religion no matter what it is.

Guest
Guest

Great article!

The commenter (mooberry) who feels the 'necessary and proper' clause empowers Congress to conduct any survey it wants is sure maddening. You spend a bunch of time explaining that the commerce clause had been badly misinterpreted and abused and then you get hit by the half-wits who want to argue 'necessary and proper' means anything.

I would add that the failure to answer this so-called "survey" question is a crime. That puts it a bit beyond an innocuous survey.

Further, even if the N&P clause applies (which it does not as Bob points out) the term is "necessary" and proper. It isn't necessary to complete the enumeration to learn what race I am, etc.

ACS User
ACS User

I'm actually someone who thinks that the commerce clause has been, as you say, "badly misinterpreted and abused". But I also think mooberry's argument is essentially correct. Once Congress has enacted a program, and the courts have upheld the constitutionality of the program, it seems to follow that Congress can create a variety of laws to support it, including socioeconomic surveys.

Example: There is a Department of Housing and Urban Development. You think the very existence of a Department of Housing and Urban Development is unconstitutional. You may be right. But until the courts agree with you, the argument that the federal government cannot gather statistics to support the mission of the HUD is a nonstarter.

Guest
Guest

I wasn't aware the USSC has upheld the constitutionality of the 'survey' questions being in the census. Where is that case?
I was also unaware that the constitutionality of HUD had been upheld by the USSC.
Can you please cite me the USSC opinions on those issues so I can review it and update my records and note that they have been finally determined for all time?
Read mooberry's first comment again and you'll see that s/he is arguing that the census is constitutional so the survey is, too, because of the N&P clause. This misunderstands the fact that something must be both necessary AND proper under that clause. Race and other issues are not necessary to enumeration. It also misses the point Bob made that the N&P clause doesn't apply to the census since it's self actuating.
Whether something is a 'nonstarter' depends, initially, on whether it's even raised. If no one ever challenges the feds on this crap, then it will never be overturned. You're giving up before you even got started...

Ryan
Ryan

We only answered how many people live in my house. I wanted to right down Native American, but my wife sealed it up and sent it out while I was at work :(. I want one of the GPS taggers to come to my house, I will answer only one question and then shut the door, if they persist. I will call the police and have a trespass warning/citation issued.

Escapee
Escapee

Two good points, Ryan. A state citizen should only be answerable to the first and possibly second question; the remaining questions are clearly marked for "residents".

Second, a federal agent has limited authority over the state citizen. A Fed on serious business will usually have the local county sheriff do any arresting and detention. If an agent shows up alone, he's generally just trying to get information.

Jay
Jay

Simple question; If the census purpose is to determine how many people are in an area to allocate funds and such, why do they need to know my race? Will a bridge not get built if I say I am Hispanic? Will a road not get paved if I say I am Black? (Or "Negro" as the Census say...)

ACS User
ACS User

Amendment 15: 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude. 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

I would think that this means that if Congress decides it needs a count of people by race in order to guarantee that the right to vote is not denied because of race, it can order the Census Bureau to ask people their race.

Of course, this does not address the larger issue of whether the Census Bureau can conduct the ACS or ask other socioeconomic questions, but it seems that Amendment 15 takes care of the authority to ask about race.

S. D.
S. D.

only one question gets an answer. # of people and that is it. let them send a worker out to get more and that is all I will tell them face to face.

T2sand
T2sand

"The one collecting the data at some point will use the data against those it collected it from" Get a clue!

Mark R
Mark R

So what should one do when the Census form (regardless of whether one receives the short or long version) arrives in the mail? It appears that we have only three possibilities:
1) Answer all the questions asked.
2) Refuse to answer any of the questions asked, then deal with the consequences later.
3) Answer only the one question that actually pertains to the Constitutional powers granted, that being the number of "persons" (i.e., human beings) residing at your home, then deal with the consequences later of not answering all the intrusive stuff.

Escapee
Escapee

Mark R.

Wrong, wrong, wrong! Man did you screw this one up. Read the form again. It says:

1. How many people were living or staying in this house, apartment, or mobile home on April 1, 2000?

You ASSUMED that it asked for "persons" (artifical corporations, created by the Fed under the terms of the 14th Amendment and subject to the jurisdiction thereof).

You ASSUMED that it asked for "residents" ("persons" "resident" (subject to the jurisdiction) at your home.

These terms mean something! It is the difference between freedom and servitude. Question one on the census form is probably the only U.S. form you will see in your lifetime that is worded to address the de jure state citizen.

T2sand
T2sand

The following is a condensed version of my dealing with the Census.

Number one rule at my house is that all mail addressed to resident ends up in the trash. Apparently the Census had sent me a couple of long forms addressed to resident. A Census worker tracked me down by phone and wanted 30 minutes of my time for the survey. I told her that she had 5 minutes. She wanted to reschedule. Do you want to ask questions or argue? Now you are down to 4 minutes. She got the point and started in with the questions. I responded to Person #1, age, and gender. She asked about race...not wanting to be racist told her human. She said that is not one of the answers. I said that it was mine. She kept on and on about race until I got snotty and told her to guess. Times up. Yesterday the short form of the Census showed up in the mail. ??????

Mark R
Mark R

Most of the time I do the same thing you do--most mail addressed to "Resident", "Homeowner" (I even had one addressed to "Lawnowner") goes in the trash though sometimes I do get a coupon that I end up using later. I received the short form version yesterday; I will not toss this one out (though I respect your right to do so). I like your idea of answering "Human" for the Race question and that will be my response as well. For the telephone question I may answer either "Unpublished" (I have a cell phone) or "Decline to Provide". I will NOT provide my name or the names of anyone living here or any other information not constitutionally required. BTW I may be an oddity on this forum--I am actually a federal employee who thinks we are too big and powerful.

Grammar
Grammar

Correct English grammar dictates that the proper possessive form is:

Congress's

not:

Congress'

MichaelBoldin
MichaelBoldin

right. most people know that, and mistakes do happen in publishing. So, do you have any comment on the article itself?

theunknownamerican
theunknownamerican

The worst thing about these surveys is that it ask for political affiliation which helps the politicians carve up districts of all republican or all democrat. This makes it almost impossible for third parties to run because they can't get a political foothold into any county.

mooberry
mooberry

I don't think so. The federal government does not ask about political affiliation in its surveys. You can declare your affiliation (if you want to) when you register to vote (your state is in charge of this), but that is about it. States do use registration information (and other information) to carve up voting districts. I agree that this has negative consequences -- it prevents other parties from getting a foothold, and it makes it easier for incumbents to keep getting re-elected reinforcing the status quo.

Lead Guitarist
Lead Guitarist

fta:"the federal government is usurping power to justify the additional questions being asked in the Census and American Community Survey. The federal government will stop at nothing to expand its power over the people of these United States."

mooberry
mooberry

Many federal agencies collect survey data in order to develop information that is important to their functions or that Congress requests for use in framing laws and policy. For example, HHS collects information on health care, health care costs, and coverage, as well as information on many other issues with which this department in concerned. The Bureau of Labor Statistics collects information on employment and other economic matters. As noted here, the Census Bureau collects socio-economic and other data that are relevant to many federal programs. In the past the Bureau collected this information via the "long form" completed by a sample of respondents to the decennial census. Now it is collected by the American Community Survey (ACS) which is run by the Census Bureau, but separate from the decennial census (which is called for the the census clause in the Constitution). The census clause requires that a decennial census be done for apportionment, but there is nothing in it that precludes the federal government from completing other surveys. The data collected by the ACS support policy making in many areas -- economic policy, social security and medicare, transportation, housing, aid of many types to states and local communities, etc. Thus, the law establishing the ACS can arguably be considered necessary and proper for exercising the powers granted to the federal government. Of course, one can argue that all the program areas cited here do not fall within these federal powers, but that is another argument that goes way beyond the issue of what the census does.

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

You stated:

"The census clause requires that a decennial census be done for apportionment, but there is nothing in it that precludes the federal government from completing other surveys."

With all due respect, you are attempting to turn the principles of limited government and enumerated powers upside down.

The question is not where is the provision in the census clause that precludes the federal government from completing other surveys...the constitutional question is: where in the census clause is the federal government granted the power to conduct other surveys other than the one to apportion direct taxes and representatives among the several States?

mooberry
mooberry

The power to conduct other surveys is not in the census clause. It is in the "necessary and proper" clause:

"The Congress shall have Power - To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."

See the last two sentences of my earlier comment where I referred to this power. Just because it is called the Census Bureau does not mean that it can only do what is authorized in the "census clause" (in fact the word "census" doesn't appear in that clause). Congress can pass a law requiring the Census Bureau or any other agency to conduct a survey if it is necessary and proper for carrying forward the powers vested in the federal government by the Constitution.

Are you suggesting that the federal government cannot conduct surveys?

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

The following document is from the Census Bureau---

The 2010 Census and the American Community Survey
America is Changing, and so is the Census

“One of the most significant changes in modern census history will occur in 2010 ― for the first time since 1930, all addresses in the U.S. will receive a census short form.

In recent censuses, most addresses received one of two forms: either the short form, which focused on the population count and demographics; or the long form, which included additional questions on socioeconomic and housing characteristics. Nationwide, about one-in-six addresses in 2000 received the long form. Together, the two parts of the decennial census showed not only the number of people living in America but also the way we live: education, housing, jobs and more. This information will still be part of the decennial census, but it will be collected on a continuing basis as part of the American Community Survey.”

“After a decade of testing and development, the Census Bureau launched the American Community Survey (ACS) in January 2005. The ACS is officially part of the decennial census and includes essentially the same questions as the long form. But rather than once a decade, the ACS is sent to a rolling sample of addresses every month, every year, throughout the nation.”

In their own words..."officially part of the decennial census."

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

The following document is from the Census Bureau---

The 2010 Census and the American Community Survey
America is Changing, and so is the Census

“One of the most significant changes in modern census history will occur in 2010 ― for the first time since 1930, all addresses in the U.S. will receive a census short form.

In recent censuses, most addresses received one of two forms: either the short form, which focused on the population count and demographics; or the long form, which included additional questions on socioeconomic and housing characteristics. Nationwide, about one-in-six addresses in 2000 received the long form. Together, the two parts of the decennial census showed not only the number of people living in America but also the way we live: education, housing, jobs and more. This information will still be part of the decennial census, but it will be collected on a continuing basis as part of the American Community Survey.”

“After a decade of testing and development, the Census Bureau launched the American Community Survey (ACS) in January 2005. The ACS is officially part of the decennial census and includes essentially the same questions as the long form. But rather than once a decade, the ACS is sent to a rolling sample of addresses every month, every year, throughout the nation.”

In their own words..."officially part of the decennial census."

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

In question No. 1 of an online document entitled: “Answers to Common Questions Submitted by Constituents,” the Census Bureau makes the following statement concerning the American Community Survey (ACS):

“The ACS is PART OF the Decennial (10 year) Census Program…” (EMPHASIS ADDED)

http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downloads/CT_%20ans...

Part of... not separate from!

The Constitution authorizes a 10-year Census count not a 10-year Census program.

mooberry
mooberry

My question was a serious one. Can Congress pass laws ("under the necessary and proper" power) that require federal agencies to conduct surveys (even though they are not specifically named in the Constitution)? I think you would probably agree that Congress can do that when the information is collected pursuant to one of the enumerated powers. For example, Congress could require the Department of Defense to survey senior military officers concerning their expected retirement dates as an aid in manpower planning. (Congress is granted the right to "To raise and support armies" by the Constitution.) Many other examples could be cited.

The American Community Survey is not conducted as part of the decennial enumeration called for the the so-called "census clause" of the Constitution. Samples of the population (not the entire population) are contacted every year, and results are reported separately from those of the decennial census. The "census clause" neither authorizes nor prohibits this survey. The authority for conducting this survey rests on the "necessary and proper" clause. The "census clause" is essentially irrelevant.

The issue would seem to be - is the law authorizing the ACS necessary and proper in carrying out powers vested in the federal government? In my original comment, I suggested that it could "arguably be considered necessary and proper" given the variety of federal programs that use the kind of information collected by the ACS. I acknowledged in my final sentence that it can be argued that those federal programs are unconstitutional (as not falling within the enumerated powers), in which case the ACS could also be considered improper. But as I said, that is a much larger issue.

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

You make my point. The intent of the necessary and proper clause is being perverted but usurping power has become standard operating procedure for the federal government.

You asked:

"Are you suggesting that the federal government cannot conduct surveys?

Nice try but that is strawman question.

I asserted that the federal government was not granted the constitutional authority to conduct other surveys, in the name of the constitutionally mandated enumeration, via the necessary and proper clause. That assertion is based on the principles of limited government and enumerated powers as I stated. It is also based on the intent of the 2 clauses in question.

In the article I stated:

"Third, there is no socioeconomic clause in the Constitution. Even if there were such a clause, it would be improper to use the Census Clause as the pretext to request information covered by another clause of the Constitution. Congress would have the power to request the information separate and apart from the Census."

"Seventh, the Necessary and Proper Clause grants Congress the power to enact laws to put a specific power into effect. It does not grant Congress the power to use one clause as a pretext to extract information to put another clause into effect. "

It appears you are asserting the contrary.

In addition, as I stated, the necessary and proper clause has no application because the Census Clause has a built in restrictive provision for putting the power contained in that Clause into effect.

Kelly Galbreath
Kelly Galbreath

Hi Bob, wow that is a very good and informative article, thank you very much. I think you've nailed it as for as far as Mooberry turning the principles of limited government upside down, kudos to you, I look forward to reading more of your material.

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