The Constitution is Clear on Presidential War Powers

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We are long past the point at which constitutional arguments have much hope of restraining the American political class, either at home or abroad. They are still worth making, though, since they serve to show the two major parties’ contempt for American law and tradition.

Ever since the Korean War, Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution – which refers to the president as the “Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States” – has been interpreted to mean that the president may act with an essentially free hand in foreign affairs, or at the very least that he may send men into battle without consulting Congress. But what the framers meant by that clause was that once war has been declared, it was the President’s responsibility as commander-in-chief to direct the war. Alexander Hamilton spoke in such terms when he said that the president, although lacking the power to declare war, would have “the direction of war when authorized or begun.” The president acting alone was authorized only to repel sudden attacks (hence the decision to withhold from him only the power to “declare” war, not to “make” war, which was thought to be a necessary emergency power in case of foreign attack).

The Framers of the Constitution were abundantly clear in assigning to Congress what David Gray Adler has called “senior status in a partnership with the president for the purpose of conducting foreign policy.” Consider what the Constitution has to say about foreign affairs. Congress possesses the power “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations,” “to raise and support Armies,” to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal,” to “provide for the common Defense,” and even “to declare War.” Congress shares with the president the power to make treaties and to appoint ambassadors. As for the president himself, he is assigned only two powers relating to foreign affairs: he is commander-in-chief of the armed forces, and he has the power to receive ambassadors.

At the Constitutional Convention, the delegates expressly disclaimed any intention to model the American executive exactly after the British monarchy. James Wilson, for example, remarked that the powers of the British king did not constitute “a proper guide in defining the executive powers. Some of these prerogatives were of a Legislative nature. Among others that of war & peace.” Edmund Randolph likewise contended that the delegates had “no motive to be governed by the British Government as our prototype.”

To repose such foreign-policy authority in the legislative rather than the executive branch of government was a deliberate and dramatic break with the British model of government with which they were most familiar, as well as with that of other nations, where the executive branch (in effect, the monarch) possessed all such rights, including the exclusive right to declare war. The Framers of the Constitution believed that history amply testified to the executive’s penchant for war. As James Madison wrote to Thomas Jefferson, “The constitution supposes, what the History of all Governments demonstrates, that the Executive is the branch of power most interested in war, and most prone to it. It has accordingly with studied care vested the question of war in the Legislature.”

At the Constitutional Convention, Pierce Butler “was for vesting the power in the President, who will have all the requisite qualities, and will not make war but when the nation will support it.” Butler’s motion did not receive so much as a second.

James Wilson assured the Pennsylvania Ratifying Convention, “This system will not hurry us into war; it is calculated to guard against it. It will not be in the power of a single man, or a single body of men, to involve us in such distress; for the important power of declaring war is vested in the legislature at large: this declaration must be made with the concurrence of the House of Representatives: from this circumstance we may draw a certain conclusion that nothing but our interest can draw us into war.”

In Federalist #69, Alexander Hamilton explained that the president’s authority “would be nominally the same with that of the King of Great Britain, but in substance much inferior to it. It would amount to nothing more than the supreme command and direction of the military and naval forces, as first general and admiral of the confederacy; while that of the British king extends to the declaring of war, and to the raising and regulating of fleets and armies; all which by the constitution under consideration would appertain to the Legislature.”

Abraham Lincoln famously explained the principle this way:

Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such purpose – and you allow him to make war at pleasure€¦. Study to see if you can fix any limit to his power in this respect, after you have given him so much as you propose. If, to-day, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, “I see no probability of the British invading us” but he will say to you “be silent; I see it, if you don’t.”

The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress, was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us. But your view destroys the whole matter, and places our President where kings have always stood.

According to John Bassett Moore, the great authority on international law who (among other credentials) occupied the first professorship of international law at Columbia University, “There can hardly be room for doubt that the framers of the constitution, when they vested in Congress the power to declare war, never imagined that they were leaving it to the executive to use the military and naval forces of the United States all over the world for the purpose of actually coercing other nations, occupying their territory, and killing their soldiers and citizens, all according to his own notions of the fitness of things, as long as he refrained from calling his action war or persisted in calling it peace.”

In conformity with this understanding, George Washington’s operations on his own authority against the Indians were confined to defensive measures, conscious as he was that the approval of Congress would be necessary for anything further. “The Constitution vests the power of declaring war with Congress,” he said, “therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they have deliberated upon the subject, and authorized such a measure.”

The typical neoconservative response to this argument is to claim that the president has sent troops into battle hundreds of times without congressional authorization. A well-known neoconservative whose name I shall mercifully keep to myself made just this argument in his review of my Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.

Let’s see how well the claim stands up.

Supporters of a broad executive war power have sometimes appealed to the Quasi War with France, in the closing years of the eighteenth century, as an example of unilateral warmaking on the part of the president. Francis Wormuth, an authority on war powers and the Constitution, describes that contention as “altogether false.” John Adams “took absolutely no independent action. Congress passed a series of acts that amounted, so the Supreme Court said, to a declaration of imperfect war; and Adams complied with these statutes.” (Wormuth’s reference to the Supreme Court recalls a decision rendered in the wake of the Quasi War, in which the Court ruled that Congress could either declare war or approve hostilities by means of statutes that authorized an undeclared war. The Quasi War was an example of the latter case.)

Consider an interesting and revealing incident that occurred during the Quasi War. Congress authorized the president to seize vessels sailing to French ports. But President Adams, acting on his own authority and without the sanction of Congress, instructed American ships to capture vessels sailing either to or from French ports. Captain George Little, acting under the authority of Adams’ order, seized a Danish ship sailing from a French port. When Little was sued for damages, the case made its way to the Supreme Court. Chief Justice John Marshall ruled that Captain Little could indeed be sued for damages in the case. “In short,” writes Louis Fisher in summary, “congressional policy announced in a statute necessarily prevails over inconsistent presidential orders and military actions. Presidential orders, even those issued as Commander in Chief, are subject to restrictions imposed by Congress.”

Another incident frequently cited on behalf of a general presidential power to deploy American forces and commence hostilities involves Jefferson’s policy toward the Barbary states, which demanded protection money from governments whose ships sailed the Mediterranean. Immediately prior to Jefferson’s inauguration in 1801, Congress passed naval legislation that, among other things, provided for six frigates that “shall be officered and manned as the President of the United States may direct.” It was to this instruction and authority that Jefferson appealed when he ordered American ships to the Mediterranean. In the event of a declaration of war on the United States by the Barbary powers, these ships were to “protect our commerce & chastise their insolence – by sinking, burning or destroying their ships & Vessels wherever you shall find them.”

In late 1801, the pasha of Tripoli did declare war on the U.S. Jefferson sent a small force to the area to protect American ships and citizens against potential aggression, but insisted that he was “unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense”; Congress alone could authorize “measures of offense also.” Thus Jefferson told Congress: “I communicate [to you] all material information on this subject, that in the exercise of this important function confided by the Constitution to the Legislature exclusively their judgment may form itself on a knowledge and consideration of every circumstance of weight.”

Jefferson consistently deferred to Congress in his dealings with the Barbary pirates. “Recent studies by the Justice Department and statements made during congressional debate,” Fisher writes, “imply that Jefferson took military measures against the Barbary powers without seeking the approval or authority of Congress. In fact, in at least ten statutes, Congress explicitly authorized military action by Presidents Jefferson and Madison. Congress passed legislation in 1802 to authorize the President to equip armed vessels to protect commerce and seamen in the Atlantic, the Mediterranean, and adjoining seas. The statute authorized American ships to seize vessels belonging to the Bey of Tripoli, with the captured property distributed to those who brought the vessels into port. Additional legislation in 1804 gave explicit support for €˜warlike operations against the regency of Tripoli, or any other of the Barbary powers.’”

Consider also Jefferson’s statement to Congress in late 1805 regarding a boundary dispute with Spain over Louisiana and Florida. According to Jefferson, Spain appeared to have an “intention to advance on our possessions until they shall be repressed by an opposing force. Considering that Congress alone is constitutionally invested with the power of changing our condition from peace to war, I have thought it my duty to await their authority for using force€¦. But the course to be pursued will require the command of means which it belongs to Congress exclusively to yield or to deny. To them I communicate every fact material for their information and the documents necessary to enable them to judge for themselves. To their wisdom, then, I look for the course I am to pursue, and will pursue with sincere zeal that which they shall approve.”

The nineteenth century, on closer inspection, turns out not to provide the precedents for presidential warmaking that its proponents would prefer to see. We don’t see anything approaching the open-ended and truly staggering authority that neoconservatives would grant the president until the closing years of that century, and even then only in miniature.

Cornell University’s Walter LaFeber pinpoints the origins of modern presidential war powers in an obscure incident from 1900. In 1898 a group of anti-foreign Chinese fighters known to the West as the Boxers rose up in protest against foreign exploitation and extraterritorial privileges in their country. They targeted Christian missionaries and Chinese converts, as well as French and Belgian engineers. After the German minister was killed in 1900, several nations sent troops to restore order amid the growing terror. McKinley contributed 5,000 American troops. This apparently minor action, however, was pregnant with consequences, as LaFeber observes:

McKinley took a historic step in creating a new, twentieth-century presidential power. He dispatched the five thousand troops without consulting Congress, let alone obtaining a declaration of war, to fight the Boxers who were supported by the Chinese government€¦. Presidents had previously used such force against non-governmental groups that threatened U.S. interests and citizens. It was now used, however, against recognized governments, and without obeying the Constitution’s provisions about who was to declare war.

Now what of those “hundreds” of cases of presidential warmaking? This argument – surprise – originated with the U.S. government itself. At the time of the Korean War, a number of congressmen contended that “history will show that on more than 100 occasions in the life of this Republic the President as Commander in Chief has ordered the fleet or the troops to do certain things which involved the risk of war” without the consent of Congress. In 1966, in defense of the Vietnam War, the State Department adopted a similar line: “Since the Constitution was adopted there have been at least 125 instances in which the President has ordered the armed forces to take action or maintain positions abroad without obtaining prior congressional authorization, starting with the €˜undeclared war’ with France (1798-1800).”

We have already seen that the war with France in no way lends support to those who favor broad presidential war powers. As for the rest, the great presidential scholar Edward S. Corwin pointed out that this lengthy list of alleged precedents consisted mainly of “fights with pirates, landings of small naval contingents on barbarous or semi-barbarous coasts, the dispatch of small bodies of troops to chase bandits or cattle rustlers across the Mexican border, and the like.”

The neoconservative argument, therefore, is based on ignorance or dishonesty. There is no third possibility. To support their position – although for obvious reasons they don’t put it quite this way – they are counting chases of cattle rustlers as examples of presidential warmaking, and as precedents for sending millions of Americans into war with foreign governments on the other side of the globe. No comment really seems necessary.

Consider, on the other hand, the words of Senator Robert A. Taft in 1951: “My conclusion, therefore, is that in the case of Korea, where a war was already under way, we had no right to send troops to a nation, with whom we had no treaty, to defend it against attack by another nation, no matter how unprincipled that aggression might be, unless the whole matter was submitted to Congress and a declaration of war or some other direct authority obtained.”

Taft, some readers will recall, was known in his day as “Mr. Republican.” There’s yet another way in which the world has been turned upside down.

Editor’s Note: This article was originally published on July 7, 2005 at LewRockwell.com

Copyright © 2005 by LewRockwell.com. Permission to reprint in whole or in part is gladly granted, provided full credit is given

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47 Responses to The Constitution is Clear on Presidential War Powers

  1. Matthew Walden December 31, 2009 at 6:23 am #

    Neo-Conned!!! And think about how many young men and woman died at the hands of these frauds…all in their own interests of nation building.

    • MichaelBoldin December 31, 2009 at 6:44 am #

      Conned is right – thanks for the feedback Matthew! What I believe is even worse is that the conservative right is happy to throw out the constitution so often when it involves the foreign policy decisions of a republican administration and the liberal left will do the same, as we see today, when it involves foreign policy decisions of a democratic administration.

  2. Charles Labianco December 31, 2009 at 6:43 am #

    EX PARTE MILLIGAN. SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES 71 U.S. 2; 18 L. Ed. 281; 1866 U.S. LEXIS 861; 4 Wall. 2 DECEMBER, 1866.
    THE PRESIDENT IS NOT A KING, NOT EVEN FOR 4 YEARS. "What is called the war power of the President, if indeed there by any such thing, is nothing more than the power of commanding the armies and fleets which Congress causes to be raised. To command them is to direct their operations. Much confusion of ideas has been produced by mistaking executive power for kingly power. Because in monarchial countries the kingly office includes the executive, it seems to have been sometimes inferred that, conversely, the executive carries with it the kingly prerogative. Our executive is in no sense a king, even for four years. "
    PRESIDENT HAS NO POWER TO DECLARE ANY CIVILIAN AN ENEMY COMBATANT. HE HAS NOT POWER OVER CIVILIANS; OF COURSE NEITHER DO HIS HENCHMEN. SEE THIS BELOW FROM EX-PARTE MILLIGAN.
    "These acts do not confer upon military commissions jurisdiction over any persons other than those in the military service and spies. There being, then, no act of Congress for the establishment of the commission, it depended entirely upon the executive will for its creation and support. This brings up the true question now before the court: Has the President, in time of war, upon his own mere will and judgment, the power to bring before his military officers any person in the land, and subject him to trial and punishment, even to death? The proposition is stated in this form, because it really amounts to this. If, the President has this awful power, whence does he derive it? He can exercise no authority whatever but that which the Constitution of the country gives him. Our system knows no authority beyond or above the law. We may, therefore, dismiss from our minds every thought of the President's having any prerogative, as representative of the people, or as interpreter [***49] of the popular will. He is elected by the people to perform those functions, and those only, which the Constitution of his country, and the laws made pursuant to that Constitution, confer."
    QUOTED THE ABOVE FROM AN ARTICLE IN http://www.freedom-school.com. Congress, committed treason against the Constitution and the people of the United States with the Patrio Act, rendition of civilians into military tribunals and torture. It's about time someone told that to them and to the President. If anyone on this site disagrees with my statement about treason, email me. I'll send the full decision of the Supreme Court of my quotes from the article. Bush said if we are not with him, we are with the enemy. We can disagree with that logic because he could be and was a usurper. His war on terror position was had no Constitutional justification. But if I say if Bush is not with the Constitution, then he is the enemy who could argue against my logic, namely, that the Constitution is the standard of rightness.

    • MichaelBoldin December 31, 2009 at 7:05 am #

      you're right about the president not being a king – and even for a day! But the fact of the matter is this – every single president has expanded the power of the executive branch, and each one of them uses their predecessor's action as a floor, not a ceiling of power. I think back to the days of Clinton and Reagan and see the kind of power in the hands of Bush and now Obama and it just blows my mind.

      But, of course, the party loyalists never seem to have a problem when it's THEIR guy in charge – democrat and republican. Problem is – they're blind. Blind to the fact that their allowance of such activity is what gives their opponents even great power as they attain office…

  3. Allan Tran December 31, 2009 at 4:09 am #

    What a great history lesson, thanks for posting this!

  4. Shill December 31, 2009 at 1:00 pm #

    Sad that we the citizens can do so little about the situation.

  5. Alisa December 31, 2009 at 1:55 pm #

    That's the bottom line, Shill.

    • MichaelBoldin December 31, 2009 at 4:47 pm #

      interesting comment, alisa. care to explain the use of shill here?

  6. Alisa December 31, 2009 at 7:26 pm #

    Michael, I was responding to Shill's comment above mine, which says: "Sad that we the citizens can do so little about the situation." I suppose I should have addressed at the beginning of my comment instead of at the end, e.g., Shill, that's the bottom line.

    • MichaelBoldin December 31, 2009 at 10:58 pm #

      whoops! That's actually me not paying attention – thanks for clarifying!

  7. David McCauley December 31, 2009 at 7:35 pm #

    Is there any way anyone could bring it before the Supreme Court to see if this Presidential power is unconstitutional?

    • Alisa December 31, 2009 at 8:01 pm #

      There is one ominous omission in the Constitution: The enabling clause. Congress is powerless to enforce any of its laws without one. Not including such an enabling clause in the Constitution is like giving someone a new car– without the keys! What good is the Constitution without powers to enforce it?

      There is one other ominous omission in the Constitution, but I have no time right now to post it.. I will later.

  8. Bert December 31, 2009 at 2:11 pm #

    The Constitution also provides for one more check on power/abuse of power, namely impeachment. And, Bush was on his way to being impeached, but, Speaker Pelosi et. al. saved his chestnuts from an increasingly disgruntled public, and he was able to finish his second term.

    We have a democracy, governed by 3 different branches, executive, legislative, and judiciary, and it’ their job to kind of keep each other in line. The executive branch includes the President, who presides, oversees, deciderers, and has the authority to make war, for something like 90 days, without ever even talking to Congress about it. The Act, as it was originally written, required a formal declaration for conflicts lasting over 90 days. Did we ever have a formal declaration against either Iraq, or Afghanistan? There was some kind of authorization of mumble-mumble(unintelligible)something-something, but not the plain english: We are now at war with Iraq, etc. Further, now there’s all this talk about pre-emptive this-n-that, and the small issue of a 1T ‘defense’ budget, which seems to go for an awful lot of things besides coastal and border defense, our military’s been overseas for decades, and that probably isn’t going to change anytime soon. Which begs the question: Empire? Does might now make right, does the ability to engage in warfare for all perpetuity equate to permission, will of the People notwithstanding and not included in the decidering process anymore, asking further if things haven’t worked their way around to some sort of arrangement more closely paralleling royalty. We have czars for various things, endless layers of bureaucracy, lots n lots of authorities, and lots n lots of debt, and increasingly seem to be wandering ever closer to socialism. One more question: Did the Nazis actually end up winning the war, or, did beating the Nazis add their cultural and biological uniqueness to our own, resistance is futile, and exultance on the part of various entities in government is unmistakable, and there’s probably about 1,000 questions you could ask after that, including ‘was 9/11 our contemporary Pearl Harbor’, and will all the facts THERE ever really be known or revealed, and finally, ‘just what kind of a monkey circus are they running, here’?

    But, the more you dig, the more problems you find, and that harkens back to the Founders, who realized all that time ago that this country was going to be a fractured fairytale, when they spoke about ‘a more perfect Union’. But, it’s what we’re stuck with, and if people keep paying attention to what goes on, and taking issue with, and raising exceptions to various actions and problems, then maybe we’ll manage to keep it out of the ditch.

    In one way, any country is kind of like a bus, not everyone will fit in the driver’s seat, and if too many backseat-drivers distract the operator, the more likely it is that the bus trip will end in a ravine, and not at the Greyhound station as scheduled. So, where are we ‘going’, in this 21st century world? To hell, off a cliff, to lunch, to some kind of starry-eyed destiny and an empire of 1,000 years?
    Did everyone back in dear old D.C. pass a drug test recently? Means testing? Do they have frequent discussions about vested foreign interest, conflicts of interest, eligibility for public office due to various factors and factions, competency, so forth, and so on?

    The only way we can make sure we don’t end up living aboard the SS Dick Tater is to actively participate in, learn about, and ask frequent questions of, those serving in our government, on many issues, ranging from budget to policy to lengthy foreign entanglements that appear to have no point of closure, perhaps simply because the public has not insisted on one.

    • MichaelBoldin December 31, 2009 at 9:24 pm #

      Bert – you bring up something extremely important with this:

      "The executive branch includes the President, who presides, oversees, deciderers, and has the authority to make war, for something like 90 days, without ever even talking to Congress about it. The Act, as it was originally written, required a formal declaration for conflicts lasting over 90 days."

      The Constitution can ONLY be changed by constitutional amendment. Any "laws" or "regulations" that change the original meaning and intention of any part of the constitution – are unconstitutional themselves.

      The War Powers Act of 1973, which you are referring to here – changed the process of engaging in military actions that weren't repelling an invasion or an imminent attack.

      What that law did was authorize the president to effectively declare war – which is the sole domain of congress – as long as he reported back to congress within 60 days.

      But, as made clear here – and in many other articles on this site – The Executive branch, the founders said, had NO authority in ANY situation to take the nation into war – whether it was for 6 hours, 60 days or 6 years.

      The war powers act – in and of itself – it a serious breach of the Constitution- and must be repudiated at every turn. We do here at TenthAmendmentCenter.com

    • Flowymac June 17, 2011 at 5:47 pm #

      What I want to know, if the constitution says the President has the War Powers and it is part of the constitution, how do you know the framers meant otherwise.. If they meant other wise then why didn't they say so.. he has War Powers, i mean by that and then explain what they meant,,Sorry, I want to think that the constitution is what it says, not what we want it to say

  9. Eric Lorentzen December 31, 2009 at 10:56 pm #

    The political class, with it's entrenched rich and outside manipulators have used war as one way of plundering our system. Combined with arrogance, greed and corruption, the military industrial complex has transferred our wealth to the rich and the elite. Soon their mission will be completed and the mining of our culture and wealth will be realized. We must begin to reverse this trend. The pendulum process of checks and balances no longer works. Our system is top heavy with unproductive skimming.

  10. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 12:34 am #

    Congress can make all the laws they want and without the enabling clause they nothing more than Good-for- Nothing laws. Congress is not making laws under or from inside the Constitution. Without an enabling clause they are making laws OUTSIDE of the Constitution making them OUTLAWS (robbers and bandits) , not lawmakers.

    Taken from the book "The Abolition of the Presidency" (1884)

    The founders presidential Oath of Office did not include the obligation of the President to execute the Laws of Congress:

    Art. II section. 3:

    …he [the President] shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

    Article II section 2

    Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–

    I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States and will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    It is desired particularly to draw attention to a very ominous omission. There is nothing direct and specific which makes it the duty of the President, that he shall execute the laws of Congress. His conscience is not bound so far as the obligation of an oath may go to do the will of Congress. Nor is the defect remedied by the subsequent section of the Constitution which provides that the President shall take care that the law be faithfully executed, for this is an obligation outside of the oath and leaves the matter of executing too much to the discretion of the executive.

    We say unhesitatingly, that insofar as the Executive authority is concern, the Articles of Confederation were far superior to the Constitution of the United States under which we live today and better calculated to ensure peace, tranquility, liberty and good government.

    The government created by the Articles of Confederation consisted of one representative body. In that body were united all persons- executive, legislative and judicial. There was no President or Senate provided for in our early law, and we look in the law for those monocratic forms which were afterward adopted.

  11. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 1:05 am #

    Two more excerpts from the 1884 book:

    "The Constitution provides that the President shall be commander in chief of the army and navy of the U.S., and of the militia of the several states when called into actual services of the United States. This is truly a kingly power. It is difficult to conceive of a greater one. "

    "The law [Constitution] fosters and protects a disguised monarchy. The question is, whether the common sense of the masses will give timely recognition to these facts. "

    • MichaelBoldin January 1, 2010 at 1:09 am #

      "The Constitution provides that the President shall be commander in chief of the army and navy of the U.S., and of the militia of the several states when called into actual services of the United States. This is truly a kingly power. It is difficult to conceive of a greater one. "

      Some interesting comments, but no – the president doesn't have kingly power under a proper application of the Constitution. That's just what this article is talking about – that the president's power is actually quite limited.

      In fact, the founders understood quite well that kingly power was a combination of waging war AND deciding whether or not war would happen. The latter, only a sovereign could decide. And in the american system, where "we the people" are the sovereign (that is, final authority), the president would have junior status in foreign policy and in warmaking – because the congress could stop the war anytime it wants.

      Sadly, though – our congress is as ineffective as it is complicit and spineless.

      • Alisa January 1, 2010 at 2:37 am #

        "That's just what this article is talking about – that the president's power is actually quite limited. "

        The president's power has always been limited by Congress. Congress gave all of their lawmaking power to Pres. Roosevelt in 1933-34. They (Congress) doesn't make laws anymore.- all laws are now created by the executive branch. You can read ALL about how that came about in a book entitled The People's Pottage by Garet Garret. There is a shortened version of that book entitled The Empire by the same author. Both books are online in PDF. Google for them.

  12. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 1:53 am #

    This system of government was not put in place by "good" minds. It was put in place by magnificent minds- frighteningly magnificent minds. What we would call "good" minds, is debatable. Pointing out the problems in the Constitution is beyond repair. The constitution was written to deceive the masses so as to last a VERY LONG TIME. If the Founders only knew how successful they were.

  13. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 2:10 am #

    The problems we have today are not repairable unless we can cut a NEW DEAL with the so-called lawmakers. The Constitution must be scrapped. It is deceptive document created of, by and for property owners who were complicit with other criminals called bankers.

    When We the people need a Constitution we will FIGHT for one and there will be a REVOLUTION. When we win we will include the stamp of authority and approval from We, the People, which is evidenced by the ENABLING CLAUSE.

  14. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 2:49 am #

    Actually the shortened version of The People's Pottage is entitled The American Empire, by Garet Garret.

    Here's the pdf: Copy and paste it to your browser:

    http://mises.org/journals/lar/pdfs/2_1/2_1_7.pdf

  15. DAN 1 January 1, 2010 at 8:30 pm #

    If it can be misinterpreted then it is NOT CLEAR. Change the clause so that there can be no mistake about Presidential MIlitary Paoers ad Responsibilities. SPELL IT OUT IN DETAIL! Make it spin and lawyer proof.

  16. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 10:06 pm #

    The constitution ALLOWS for all of the EVILS we have today because it has no mechanism to PREVENT those evils. The MECHANISM that allows the evil to keep going is VOTING. That system of government has GOT TO GO. It is the people who vote that give us the government we have. The people who do not vote have to accept whatever the ignorant masses have given us. What kind of system is that? The government (and the very rich) like this set up because they can manipulate it, just as they do Wall Street. We need A NEW DEAL. A deal that the people themselves draft, not the bankers have drafted. Now tell me… how are we going to accomplish that?

  17. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 10:35 pm #

    The US is only 16 points away from becoming a Central African Republic.

    Your guess is as good as mine which way the scales are going to tip in the next 2 years.

    http://www.visualec onomics.com/ income-distribut ion-by-country/

    Uneven distribution means that the gap between the rich and the poor are really wide. In a very uneven distribution, the rich are VERY RICH and the poor are VERY POOR, comparatively.

    Make no bones about it… The world revolves around wealthy people. Here on this planet, it's all about MONEY and how to get more of it. The first step was to create a government to shut the people up while the evil men go to work behind the government's wall so they could (in secret) make their plans to loot the nation.

  18. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 5:19 pm #

    http://mises.org/books/pottage.pdf

    Excerpt: (How the president became the king)

    In his inaugural address, March 4, 1933, the President declared that the people had "asked for discipline and direction under leadership"; that he would seek to bring speedy action "within my Constitutional authority"; and that he hoped the "normal balance of executive and legislative authority" could be maintained, and then said: "But in the event that Congress shall fail. . . and in the event that the national emergency is still critical . . . I shall ask Congress for the one remaining instrument to meet the crisis—broad executive power to make war against the emergency, as great as the power that would be given to me if we were in fact invaded by a foreign foe." It is true that people wanted action. It is true that they were in a mood to accept any pain-killer, and damn the normal balance of authority between the executive and legislative authority. That was an emotional state of mind perfectly suited to a revolutionary purpose, and the President took advantage of it to make the first
    startling exposition of New Deal philosophy. Note his assertion of the leadership principle over any other. Discipline under leadership. Note the threat to Congress—" in the event that Congress shall fail." But who was to say if the Congress had failed? The leader, of course. If in his judgment the Congress failed, then, with the people behind him, he would demand war powers to deal with an economic emergency. The word emergency was then understood to mean what the dictionaries said it meant—namely, a sudden juncture of events demanding immediate action. It was supposed to refer only to the panic and the banking crisis, both temporary. But what it meant to the President, as nobody then knew, was a very different thing. Writing a year later, in his book, On Our Way, he said: "Strictly speaking, the banking crisis lasted only one week…. But the full
    meaning of that word emergency related to far more than banks; it covered the whole economic and therefore the whole social structure of the country. It was an emergency that went to the roots of our agriculture, our commerce, our industry; it was an emergency that has existed for a whole generation in its underlying causes and for three-and-one-half years in its visible effects. It could be cured only by a complete reorganization of the country.

    So, what the New Deal really intended to do, what it meant to do within the Constitution if possible, with the collaboration of Congress if Congress did not fail, but with war powers if necessary, was to reorganize and control the "whole economic and therefore the whole social structure of the country." And therein lay the meaning—the only consistent meaning—of a series of acts touching money, banking and credit which, debated as monetary policy, made no sense whatever. The first step, three days before the new Congress convened, was an executive decree suspending all activities of banking throughout the country. Simply, every bank was shut up. The same decree forbade, under pain of fine and imprisonment, any dealing in foreign exchange
    or any transfer of credit from the United States to any place abroad, and that was to slam the door against the wicked rich who might be tempted to run out.

    The second step was an act of Congress, saying, "Acts of the President and Secretary of the Treasury since March 4, 1933, are hereby confirmed and approved." That made everything legal after the fact: and it was the first use of Congress as a rubber stamp. The same act of Congress provided that no bank in the Federal Reserve System should resume business except subject to rules and regulations to be promulgated by the Secretary of the Treasury, gave the President absolute power over foreign exchange and authorized the Federal government to invest public funds in private bank stock, thereby providing banks with new capital owned by the government. And that was the act that authorized the President to require people to surrender their gold. Congress did not write any of these acts. It received them from the White House and passed
    them.

    The third step was a decree by the President requiring all persons and corporations whatever to divest themselves of gold and hand it over to the government. The law authorizing him to do that had fixed the penalty of non-compliance at a fine equal to twice the value of the gold. The executive decree added the penalty of imprisonment. In view of further intentions not yet disclosed it was imperative for the government to get possession of all the gold.

  19. Alisa January 1, 2010 at 5:30 pm #

    excerpt, cont:

    Loyalty of the law-making power to the executive power was one of the dangers the political fathers foretold.
    In that special session the Congress had surrendered to the President its one absolute power, namely, control
    of the public purse; also in creating for the New Deal those new instruments of power demanded by the
    President it delegated to him a vast amount of lawmaking power—so much in fact that from then on the
    President and the agencies that were responsible to him made more law than the Congress. The law they
    made was called administrative law. Each new agency had the authority to issue rules and regulations having
    the force of law. After that for a long time nobody knew what the law was or where it was, not even the
    government knew, because the law might be a mimeographed document in the drawer of an administrator's
    desk. When this confusion became intolerable a rule was made that all pronouncements of administrative
    law should be printed in a government publication called The Register.

  20. DAN 1 January 1, 2010 at 8:36 pm #

    And make sure the spelling is correct!

  21. King Edward January 2, 2010 at 4:50 am #

    Hello To All, This may be uncomfotable, and most difficult to except; "the U.S. Constitution is no longer in effect". The only way to reinstate the "Bill of Rights" and the original Constitutin "for" the states is by force, and I ask; are there any patriotic men willing to sacrifice their life for thier posterity so that they may live as free me? Does our generaton have the mettle, that of those that fought and won over tyranny? Death to the new world order and communism. Long Live the Republic!

    • Alisa January 7, 2010 at 4:19 pm #

      Yes, by force, but I don't think I would reinstate as the blood thirsty power brokers) would never allow it.
      For more information on Revolution and getting one started in the US do a google search for "Bob Avakian, Revolution" or go to Vimeo.com and do a search for Bob Avakian for his videos.

  22. Alisa January 3, 2010 at 9:32 pm #

    The constitution is scrap paper. The only thing it has done for this country is create a government out of control. The constitution doesn't work because the founders intentionally left something out. Do you know what that something is? Don't feel bad. 99.99 % of the population don't know. Scrap paper. That's what Congress has been working from for the past 230+ years. The constitution was created to fool the people into thinking that the document created a government of the USA, when it did no such thing! The idea that Congress is our government needs to die, and soon, or the USA will.

  23. Robert Heintze January 4, 2010 at 8:13 pm #

    You sure know your history and politics Mike B. We need a THIRD party with clout in america (the Reform/People's party). The Feds have completely ignored the will of the people on every issue, whether it has been the wars in Iraq and Afganistan, compulsory health care reform, privitization of social security, etc.

  24. Alisa January 4, 2010 at 8:13 pm #

    How to mame a government:

    Bad kings do not surrender to people- they are defeated by other kings or governments. The only thing important to bad kings or governments is staying in power and the only way to take a bad king (government) out is to KILL him. The problem with today's government is that it feigns appearance of good government vis-a-vis the constitution. That was deliberate, because secret societies learned from history that bad king's fell within one lifetime because he did not feign appearance; if the king was bad, everyone knew it because the king did not fake it. Secret societies know that the only way bad government can stay in power (for longer than a life time) is to feign appearance of good government. Congress comes from the Constitution- and everyone knows how good the Constitution is- just look at We, the People.org. That is not to say that all constitutions are bad- it just that our just happens to be because of its not-so-obvious omissions.

    Lysander Spooner:

    If the people of this country knew what crimes are constantly committed by these courts of injustice, they would squelch them, without mercy, as unceremoniously as they would squelch so many gangs of bandits or pirates. In fact, bandits and pirates are highly respectable and honorable villainy, compared with the judges of these courts of injustice.

    Bandits and pirates do not — like these judges — attempt to cheat us out of our common sense, in order to cheat you out of our property, liberty, or life. They do not profess to be anything but such villains as they really are. They do not claim to have received any "Divine" authority for robbing, enslaving, or murdering us at their pleasure. They do not claim immunity, for their crimes, upon the ground that they are duly authorized agents of any such invisible, intangible, irresponsible, unimaginable thing as "society," or "the State." They do not insult us by telling us that they are only exercising that authority to rob, enslave, and murder us, which we ourselves have delegated to them. They do not claim that they are robbing, enslaving, and murdering us, solely to secure our happiness and prosperity, and not from any selfish motives of their own. They do not claim a wisdom so superior to that of the producers of wealth, as to know, better than they, how their wealth should be disposed of. They do not tell us that we are the freest and happiest people on earth, inasmuch as each of our male adults is allowed one voice in ten millions in the choice of the men, who are to rob, enslave, and murder us. They do not tell us that all liberty and order would be destroyed, that society itself would go to pieces, and man go back to barbarism, if it were not for the care, and supervision, and protection, they lavish upon us.

    They do not tell us of the almshouses, hospitals, schools, churches, etc., which, out of the purest charity and benevolence, they maintain for our benefit, out of the money they take from us. They do not carry their heads high, above all other men, and demand our reverence and admiration, as statesmen, patriots, and benefactors. They do not claim that we have voluntarily "come into their society," and "surrendered" to them all our natural rights of person and property; nor all our "original and natural right" of defending our own rights, and redressing our own wrongs. They do not tell us that they have established infallible supreme courts, to whom they refer all questions as to the legality of their acts, and that they do nothing that is not sanctioned by these courts. They do not attempt [*110] to deceive us, or mislead us, or reconcile us to their doings, by any such pretences, impostures, or insults as these. There is not a single John Marshall among them.

  25. Alisa January 4, 2010 at 8:14 pm #

    oops… I meant maim not mame

    • King Edward January 6, 2010 at 1:04 am #

      What was intentionally left out of theConstitution? that 99.9% of the people don't realize.

      • alisa January 6, 2010 at 8:22 pm #

        The enabling clause. The Constitution does not have any words or language to allow Congress to enforce any of its laws. What good are any of its laws without powers of enforcement? Good-for-nothing! The enabling clause is seen in the first draft of the Constitution and its language was approved by the Convention on August 15, 1787. It was thereafter removed by the revisors of the Constitution. I don't know who the revisors were so I couldn't tell you whose idea it was to remove it. Not including an enabling clause is like giving somebody a new car–without the keys! – or enacting laws without the power to enforce them.

  26. alisa January 6, 2010 at 8:37 pm #

    What the missing enabling clause created was not a government by law, but a government by force. That's why they created the Bill of Rights- to protect the people's rights. But the constitution doesn't give the federal government any power over the people's rights so they had no authority from the constitution to create a bill of rights. So that document too- is moot.

  27. alisa January 6, 2010 at 8:49 pm #

    From the book The Bill of Rights by Milton Meltzer:

    "Only one delegate, Roger Sherman, spoke up on the proposal for a Bill of Rights. A federal bill isn't needed, he said, because the state bills will protect the rights of their citizen. And the new federal government, he added, has not been given any power to interfere with the rights thus protected."

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  28. alisa January 6, 2010 at 9:46 pm #

    The bill of rights give people the impression they have rights and that those rights are recognized by the government, but what they don't know is this:

    http://lysanderspooner.org/node/62

    It is intrinsically just as false, absurd, ludicrous, and ridiculous to say that lawmakers, so-called, can invent and make any laws, of their own, authoritatively fixing, or declaring, the rights of individuals, or that shall be in any manner authoritative or obligatory upon individuals, or that individuals may rightfully be compelled to obey, as it would be to say that they can invent and make such mathematics, chemistry, physiology, or other sciences, as they see fit, and rightfully compel individuals to conform all their actions to them, instead of conforming them to the mathematics, chemistry, physiology, or other sciences of nature.

    Lawmakers, as they call themselves, might just as well claim the right to abolish, by statute, the natural law of gravitation, the natural laws of light, heat, and electricity, and all the other natural laws of matter and mind, and institute laws of their own in the place of them, and compel conformity to them, as to claim the right to set aside the natural law of justice, and compel obedience to such other laws as they may see fit to manufacture, and set up in its stead.

    Let me now ask you how you imagine that your so-called lawmakers can "do equal and exact justice to all men," by any so-called laws of their own making. If their laws command anything but justice, or forbid anything but injustice, they are themselves unjust and criminal. If they simply command justice, and forbid injustice, they add nothing to the natural authority of justice, or to men's obligation to obey it. It is, therefore, a simple impertinence, and sheer impudence, on their part, to assume that their commands, as such, are of any authority whatever. It is also sheer impudence, on their part, to assume that their commands are at all necessary to teach other men what is, and what is not, justice. The science of justice is as open to be learned by all other men, as by themselves; and it is, in general, so simple and easy to be learned, that there is no need of, and no place for, any man, or body of men, to teach it, declare it, or command it, on their own authority.

    For one, or another, of these reasons, therefore, each and every law, so-called, that forty-eight different congresses have presumed to make, within the last ninety-six years, have been utterly destitute of all legitimate authority. That is to say, they have either been criminal, as commanding or licensing men to do what justice forbade them to do, or as forbidding them to do what justice would have permitted them to do; or else they have been superfluous, as adding nothing to men's knowledge of justice, or to their obligation to do justice, or abstain from injustice.

    What excuse, then, have you for attempting to enforce upon the people that great mass of superfluous or criminal laws (so-called) which ignorant and foolish, or impudent and criminal, men have, for so many years, been manufacturing, and promulgating, and enforcing, in violation of justice, and of all men's natural, inherent, and inalienable rights?

  29. alisa January 6, 2010 at 10:07 pm #

    The Constitution was mainly created to protect the elite and their monopolies, such as the Federal Reserve. Hence the reason there is so little justice in this world for individuals.

    SECTION IX.

    Sir, if a government is to "do equal and exact justice to all men," it must do simply that, and nothing more. If it does more than that to any, — that is, if it gives monopolies, privileges, exemptions, bounties, or favors to any, — it can do so only by doing injustice to more or less others. It can give to one only what it takes from others; for it has nothing of its own to give to any one. The best that it can do for all, and the only honest thing it can do for any, is simply to secure to each and every one his own rights, — the rights that nature gave him, — his rights of person, and his rights of property; leaving him, then, to pursue his own interests, and secure his own welfare, by the free and full exercise of his own powers of body and mind; so long as he trespasses upon the equal rights of no other person.

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