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		<title>By: What Would Madison Do?&#160;&#124;&#160;Tenth Amendment Center</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/11/03/the-welfare-state-corrupts-absolutely/comment-page-1/#comment-293022</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] path to federal expansion, we might today be like the countries of Western Europe, with a centrally-managed welfare state that is completely [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bryce Shonka</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/11/03/the-welfare-state-corrupts-absolutely/comment-page-1/#comment-292147</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce Shonka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 05:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The process is even an affront to the ideals lofted by the so-called democratic party...Richman makes an excellent point- with a bill that almost nobody will truly comprehend, how is that any sort of democracy?  It&#039;s more like despotism, communism maybe even but it&#039;s not anywhere near democracy. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The process is even an affront to the ideals lofted by the so-called democratic party&#8230;Richman makes an excellent point- with a bill that almost nobody will truly comprehend, how is that any sort of democracy?  It&#039;s more like despotism, communism maybe even but it&#039;s not anywhere near democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@QE - sounds to me like you&#039;re missing cause and effect here ....  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@QE &#8211; sounds to me like you&#039;re missing cause and effect here &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Question Everything</title>
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		<dc:creator>Question Everything</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is why do we all sit here and cry about their proposal when we have no alternative?   Itâ€™s easy to criticize something you did not create it, but when we do criticize without presenting other options is that effective at stopping what youâ€™re against?  I heard hundreds of arguments about this bill but not one person has submitted a solution, how can we attack something with nothing to put in its place? 
I agree with most of your agreement but it is futile to belittle a new system when the system we currently have is failing miserably.  When people trying to get insurance cannot receive it because the insurance company will not cover their condition something needs to be done!  If we leave these companies as private entityâ€™s to regulate themselves will they do it justly?  So far they have not, so how do we correct this without total government control?  From where Iâ€™m standing itâ€™s not the government in control but corporations that use huge sums of money to elect whoever will push their ideas.  
Has anyone wondered why the Food and Drug Administration never backs nor studyâ€™s herbal remedies?  Is it because drug companies cannot make these products profitable because you and I could grow them in the back yard?   As for socialized health care I believe it would have some pluses, I served it the military for six years and never had a problem with the care (a socialized form of health care) I received.  No insurance forms to fill out, or questionnaires, never turned away because of no insurance all I needed was my ID card shouldnâ€™t all Americans receive this kind of care?  I have a son whoâ€™s a diabetic and his care was extremely good again with a socialized healthcare system.  Now every time we visit the doctor I need my insurance card, my address, phone number, and a questionnaire each time.  
 How do we make healthcare affordable for all without government intervention?  
Do we just allow the poor to suffer?  Again itâ€™s easy to cast blame or point the finger but if weâ€™re not part of the solution than weâ€™re part of the problem!
How do we fix our healthcare system so that all Americans poor and rich benefit?  One option is to eliminate the Federal Reserve so that our tax money could be spent on actually paying for healthcare not the National Debt.  Anyway we must come up with a way to fix this problem because our elected officials (liberal &amp; conservative) are for sell none can be trusted.  We the people must fix this system because our government has failed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is why do we all sit here and cry about their proposal when we have no alternative?   Itâ€™s easy to criticize something you did not create it, but when we do criticize without presenting other options is that effective at stopping what youâ€™re against?  I heard hundreds of arguments about this bill but not one person has submitted a solution, how can we attack something with nothing to put in its place?<br />
I agree with most of your agreement but it is futile to belittle a new system when the system we currently have is failing miserably.  When people trying to get insurance cannot receive it because the insurance company will not cover their condition something needs to be done!  If we leave these companies as private entityâ€™s to regulate themselves will they do it justly?  So far they have not, so how do we correct this without total government control?  From where Iâ€™m standing itâ€™s not the government in control but corporations that use huge sums of money to elect whoever will push their ideas.<br />
Has anyone wondered why the Food and Drug Administration never backs nor studyâ€™s herbal remedies?  Is it because drug companies cannot make these products profitable because you and I could grow them in the back yard?   As for socialized health care I believe it would have some pluses, I served it the military for six years and never had a problem with the care (a socialized form of health care) I received.  No insurance forms to fill out, or questionnaires, never turned away because of no insurance all I needed was my ID card shouldnâ€™t all Americans receive this kind of care?  I have a son whoâ€™s a diabetic and his care was extremely good again with a socialized healthcare system.  Now every time we visit the doctor I need my insurance card, my address, phone number, and a questionnaire each time.<br />
 How do we make healthcare affordable for all without government intervention?<br />
Do we just allow the poor to suffer?  Again itâ€™s easy to cast blame or point the finger but if weâ€™re not part of the solution than weâ€™re part of the problem!<br />
How do we fix our healthcare system so that all Americans poor and rich benefit?  One option is to eliminate the Federal Reserve so that our tax money could be spent on actually paying for healthcare not the National Debt.  Anyway we must come up with a way to fix this problem because our elected officials (liberal &amp; conservative) are for sell none can be trusted.  We the people must fix this system because our government has failed!</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, whether it is control over out health-care, our exercise, our lives it is simply a measure of power over we the individual people, that we inevitably must give up ourselves. 
 
Health-care for the record among many cultures including Christianity historically,  uses to be very much a religious matter.  When did it become premissable for the State, much less the federal goverment to get involved in such things.   What could be more intractability connected to god on this earth then the power our health? 
 
It doesn&#039;t matter if most people no longer beleive that some still do.   What is the famous line some Catholics uses to support government involvement in health care?  
 
When Jesus was asked about taxation after examining the roman symbols on a roman coin: 
&#8220;Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar&#8217;s, and unto God the things that are God&#8217;s&#8221;  
 
Well I have no U.S. Government stamp on by body, indeed according to my religious believes it was made in God&#039;s image which by my estimation makes it the property of God and not Caesar.  I&#039;m sorry I cannot render onto Caesar that which is God&#039;s.  The United State&#039;s Federal government has no right to make me. 
 
Michael Boldin I am compelled none the less to stick with the simple assertion that all power corrupts and health care power is simply one of the greatest forms of power.  The Government does not need that power for it to become hopelessly corrupted, indeed control over many other things such as it has already taken over the last 100 years has already been more then enough to do that job. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, whether it is control over out health-care, our exercise, our lives it is simply a measure of power over we the individual people, that we inevitably must give up ourselves. </p>
<p>Health-care for the record among many cultures including Christianity historically,  uses to be very much a religious matter.  When did it become premissable for the State, much less the federal goverment to get involved in such things.   What could be more intractability connected to god on this earth then the power our health? </p>
<p>It doesn&#039;t matter if most people no longer beleive that some still do.   What is the famous line some Catholics uses to support government involvement in health care?  </p>
<p>When Jesus was asked about taxation after examining the roman symbols on a roman coin:<br />
&ldquo;Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar&rsquo;s, and unto God the things that are God&rsquo;s&rdquo;  </p>
<p>Well I have no U.S. Government stamp on by body, indeed according to my religious believes it was made in God&#039;s image which by my estimation makes it the property of God and not Caesar.  I&#039;m sorry I cannot render onto Caesar that which is God&#039;s.  The United State&#039;s Federal government has no right to make me. </p>
<p>Michael Boldin I am compelled none the less to stick with the simple assertion that all power corrupts and health care power is simply one of the greatest forms of power.  The Government does not need that power for it to become hopelessly corrupted, indeed control over many other things such as it has already taken over the last 100 years has already been more then enough to do that job.</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelBoldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/11/03/the-welfare-state-corrupts-absolutely/comment-page-1/#comment-291072</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelBoldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great points, Monorprise.  Maybe the saying should be &quot;power corrupts, health care power corrupts absolutely.&quot;  !! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, Monorprise.  Maybe the saying should be &quot;power corrupts, health care power corrupts absolutely.&quot;  !!</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%, Power corrupts, and their &quot;health-care reform&quot; really has nothing to do with health-care at all and everything to do with their own greed for power and control over the people. 
 
A people depended entirely on government will be less able and inclined  to resist that government when the government takes away too many of their rights. 
 
This government is already taking too many of our rights, and we already have a huge section of our population depended upon it and thus unable/unwilling to resit this growing oppression of our basic liberty and self-determination. 
 
Men uses to have rights chief among them was the right only to be held accountable for his own actions not that of all others around him.  We have been increasingly losing that right as they collectivize more and more aspects of our rights, and with that right we lose our individual lives, and become evermore effective slaves of the Government rather then free self-determining men and women. 
 
That is the true nature of what is and has long been at stake here.  that is the basic underlining truth, and more and more of us are becoming convened in our heats desire for freedom and self-determination that this monster has gone too far.  Treaded too deeply upon our essential individual rights, and must be reversed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%, Power corrupts, and their &quot;health-care reform&quot; really has nothing to do with health-care at all and everything to do with their own greed for power and control over the people. </p>
<p>A people depended entirely on government will be less able and inclined  to resist that government when the government takes away too many of their rights. </p>
<p>This government is already taking too many of our rights, and we already have a huge section of our population depended upon it and thus unable/unwilling to resit this growing oppression of our basic liberty and self-determination. </p>
<p>Men uses to have rights chief among them was the right only to be held accountable for his own actions not that of all others around him.  We have been increasingly losing that right as they collectivize more and more aspects of our rights, and with that right we lose our individual lives, and become evermore effective slaves of the Government rather then free self-determining men and women. </p>
<p>That is the true nature of what is and has long been at stake here.  that is the basic underlining truth, and more and more of us are becoming convened in our heats desire for freedom and self-determination that this monster has gone too far.  Treaded too deeply upon our essential individual rights, and must be reversed.</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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