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		<title>By: Bryce Shonka</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/10/11/united-we-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-288851</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce Shonka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 08:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Repealing the 17th is indeed a tricky proposition.  In order to do this, it will look as if power is being taken from the people and given to the state governments, but really it will be making the states much better eqiupped to reject federal usurpation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Repealing the 17th is indeed a tricky proposition.  In order to do this, it will look as if power is being taken from the people and given to the state governments, but really it will be making the states much better eqiupped to reject federal usurpation.</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/10/11/united-we-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-288086</link>
		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[B. Johnson I agree we need to find a way to turn public support against not only the 16th and 17th amendments, but also the nearly as destructive 14th amendment.

I have been working on this problem for about a year now, and while I can still offer no definitive solution.  we can in fact link the 14th amendment not only to the illegal immigration problem but the other controversy of Row V.S. Wade.  Enumerating the various problems and publishing that enumeration so that everyone knows just how much problems and heart ace theses particularity amendments have caused might help us to build support for their repeal.

The 17th is by far the hardest to sell as it requires an understanding of constitutional stricture and human nature to understand it&#039;s destructive consequences.

Perhaps the proposal of a signal amendment to the constitution that repeals all 3 listing the pros of all 3 with particular emphasis on the controversial aspects of the 14th and 16th might be fruitful in rally more public support and get the 17th repealed as a piggy back.

Something like this:

&quot;Section 1. The fourteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 2. The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.

Section 3. The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.
&quot;

Derek it is clear one of our main problems has always been information getting the word out and learning what is going on in our own state legislators that we are not alone.
This particular web site among others has provided us with a tool to learn things that we never knew before about our own state and thus enable us to aid and push those efforts already underway while further helping to spread awareness and advocacy.

As we have learned more and more it is nothing new that the media generally ignores such state level activities, much to the detriment of the cause of decentralization and benefit of the cause of the centralization of power.   We now must reverse that trend, and the first step is spreading awareness and rallying support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>B. Johnson I agree we need to find a way to turn public support against not only the 16th and 17th amendments, but also the nearly as destructive 14th amendment.</p>
<p>I have been working on this problem for about a year now, and while I can still offer no definitive solution.  we can in fact link the 14th amendment not only to the illegal immigration problem but the other controversy of Row V.S. Wade.  Enumerating the various problems and publishing that enumeration so that everyone knows just how much problems and heart ace theses particularity amendments have caused might help us to build support for their repeal.</p>
<p>The 17th is by far the hardest to sell as it requires an understanding of constitutional stricture and human nature to understand it&#8217;s destructive consequences.</p>
<p>Perhaps the proposal of a signal amendment to the constitution that repeals all 3 listing the pros of all 3 with particular emphasis on the controversial aspects of the 14th and 16th might be fruitful in rally more public support and get the 17th repealed as a piggy back.</p>
<p>Something like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Section 1. The fourteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.</p>
<p>Section 2. The sixteenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.</p>
<p>Section 3. The seventeenth article of amendment to the Constitution of the United States is hereby repealed.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Derek it is clear one of our main problems has always been information getting the word out and learning what is going on in our own state legislators that we are not alone.<br />
This particular web site among others has provided us with a tool to learn things that we never knew before about our own state and thus enable us to aid and push those efforts already underway while further helping to spread awareness and advocacy.</p>
<p>As we have learned more and more it is nothing new that the media generally ignores such state level activities, much to the detriment of the cause of decentralization and benefit of the cause of the centralization of power.   We now must reverse that trend, and the first step is spreading awareness and rallying support.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Johnson</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/10/11/united-we-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-288077</link>
		<dc:creator>B. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While emphasizing 10th A. protected state sovereignty is a step in the right direction, we&#039;ve ultimately got to fix the damage caused by the ill-conceived, anti-state sovereignty 16th and 17th Amendments.  So we need to wake the voters up to state sovereignty so that they can start replacing the current generation of lawmakers in the state legislatures and the federal Senate with lawmakers who will work to protect state sovereignty.

The following link should help give people an idea how state sovereignty-ignorant voters have shot themselves in the foot with big, corrupt federal government as a consequence of the ill-conceived, anti-state sovereignty 16th and 17th Amendments.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=199792]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While emphasizing 10th A. protected state sovereignty is a step in the right direction, we&#8217;ve ultimately got to fix the damage caused by the ill-conceived, anti-state sovereignty 16th and 17th Amendments.  So we need to wake the voters up to state sovereignty so that they can start replacing the current generation of lawmakers in the state legislatures and the federal Senate with lawmakers who will work to protect state sovereignty.</p>
<p>The following link should help give people an idea how state sovereignty-ignorant voters have shot themselves in the foot with big, corrupt federal government as a consequence of the ill-conceived, anti-state sovereignty 16th and 17th Amendments.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=199792" rel="nofollow">http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=199792</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian Bertha</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/10/11/united-we-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-288052</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Bertha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The founders understood about power. The specifically limited the federal government and created checks and balances. Those at the federal level are out of control. That&#039;s why the 10th Amendment is so important. If the states strongly exercised their rights instead of begging for fiscal handouts balance could be restored. Without state support most of the unconstitutional bills being passed today would not be worth the paper they are written on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The founders understood about power. The specifically limited the federal government and created checks and balances. Those at the federal level are out of control. That&#8217;s why the 10th Amendment is so important. If the states strongly exercised their rights instead of begging for fiscal handouts balance could be restored. Without state support most of the unconstitutional bills being passed today would not be worth the paper they are written on.</p>
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		<title>By: Free of State &#187; Blog Archive &#187; United We Fall by Frank Chodorov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free of State &#187; Blog Archive &#187; United We Fall by Frank Chodorov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monoprise,

I had almost abandoned all hope for AZ, and was ready to move to NH as part of the next wave of the Free State Project supporters.  

Then I discovered that my AZ State legislators were, (previously unbeknownst to me), actually leading the charge in the effort to nullify Obamacare! Shortly thereafter, I was thrilled to learn about Sheriff Mack, (former 2 term Sheriff of a county in AZ), and his history of standing up to the feds as well as his effort to urge every sheriff in America to stand up against federal intrusion in their own county. 

The State sovereignty movement in AZ is following exactly the blueprint you describe above and I&#039;m glad to be playing a small part in it. I hope you are playing a part in your state as well!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monoprise,</p>
<p>I had almost abandoned all hope for AZ, and was ready to move to NH as part of the next wave of the Free State Project supporters.  </p>
<p>Then I discovered that my AZ State legislators were, (previously unbeknownst to me), actually leading the charge in the effort to nullify Obamacare! Shortly thereafter, I was thrilled to learn about Sheriff Mack, (former 2 term Sheriff of a county in AZ), and his history of standing up to the feds as well as his effort to urge every sheriff in America to stand up against federal intrusion in their own county. </p>
<p>The State sovereignty movement in AZ is following exactly the blueprint you describe above and I&#8217;m glad to be playing a small part in it. I hope you are playing a part in your state as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/10/11/united-we-fall/comment-page-1/#comment-288039</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frank Chodorov is becoming one of my favorite authors and something of a prophet in my mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank Chodorov is becoming one of my favorite authors and something of a prophet in my mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We must take Control of State legislators, and governorships.  Get people in there with the balls to defend our rights again, and impose the Constitutional law on the Federal government.

We also need to work at the local level get the local Sheriffs and so on to arrest federal usurpation at the ground level make it difficult to imposable for the federal &quot;law enforcement&quot; to operate here.

Our aim should be to ratchet up the pressure on federal forces as to deter their existences, and compel the withdraw of their tentacles of powers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We must take Control of State legislators, and governorships.  Get people in there with the balls to defend our rights again, and impose the Constitutional law on the Federal government.</p>
<p>We also need to work at the local level get the local Sheriffs and so on to arrest federal usurpation at the ground level make it difficult to imposable for the federal &#8220;law enforcement&#8221; to operate here.</p>
<p>Our aim should be to ratchet up the pressure on federal forces as to deter their existences, and compel the withdraw of their tentacles of powers.</p>
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