Comments on: The 2nd Amendment and the States

By: Ian_Laskiill

Ian_Laskiill — Thu, 13 Oct 2011 04:34:01 +0000

K.E.H.
Agreed. Would we tolerate state laws that make it legal in that state to detain a man without trial for example?

By: K.E.H.

K.E.H. — Sun, 31 Jul 2011 07:33:19 +0000

i may be wrong but i thought that the states could only make laws stronger or equal to the standard,that is our constitution.so in fact when dealing with the second amendment,the standard is the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.so how can states constitutions be stronger, by having restrictive gun laws as in states such as california or new york.in california there is no provision such as the second amendment in our constitution.which would seem to me to be weakening of our federal rights right off the bat the only true way that the states could be strengthening our second amendment protection or gun laws is to say that,the right of the people to keep and bear arms will not for any reason ever be infringed.in saying this,i thought that the states only have the right to enact laws that do not fall below the standard of constitutional law.just a different way of looking at it.am i wrong?

By: Monorprise

Monorprise — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:08:00 +0000

I have said before incorporating the 2nd amendment against the States is a Pyrrhic victory for gun rights, as it merely opens the door for them "exceptions" to be applied against the States to disarm them.

In case you don't believe that will happen, your too late as it's already begun as this case demonstrates.
A Tennessee Guardsman being denied the right to keep military grade weapons for this Tennessee forces.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/co…

The 2nd amendment is a dead letter for ALL practical proposes now. If even the States cannot keep military grade arms capable of standing up to the Federal military forces, there can be no way for us to maintain the security of a free state.

Statist know this and many other things which is why many of them have joined the NRA in this fools errand:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/234185

Yes the right to keep and bear arms is a right, but its a right the people of many states have ceded to their state in part in the name of security. it says so in their State Constitution. No American has ceded this right to the Federal government of the United States.

By: Monorprise

Monorprise — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 20:08:00 +0000

Statist know this and many other things which is why many of them have joined the NRA in this fools errand:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/234185

By: Kit Maira

Kit Maira — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:14:12 +0000

Those who wave copies of the Constitution around as symbols of their liberty, remind me of dogs who have learned to carry their leashes in their mouths. â€”Butler Shaffer

By: Kit Maira

Kit Maira — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 05:11:55 +0000

Those who wave copies of the Constitution around as symbols of their liberty, remind me of dogs who have learned to carry their leashes in their mouths. â€”Butler Shaffer

http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer17.html

By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:00:10 +0000

What you're referring to is the "incorporation doctrine" – which is just what this article is warning against. I don't want the federal government meddling in state affairs for anything.

By: I plead the 10th

I plead the 10th — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:16:47 +0000

I see the point. The 14th Amendment is a mess.

However, let's stop talking about making states abide by the Second Amendment, for a moment.

What about Amendments 1, 4, 5, 6, 7, or 8? By this logic, why not allow states to take those away, too?

That's why the 2nd, 9th, and 10th Amendments were written.
2nd – ability to protect yourself against tyranny, using weapons
9th – "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
10th – note the "and individuals" clause

To me, combine the 9th, 10th, and 14th together, allowing the people the 2nd Amendment, and the rest should not be an issue.

Again, it's those "politically connected lawyers", liberal judges, a liberal media, and an apathetic "We the sheeple" that's created this mess.

I watched part of Obama's "Prescription" infomercial on ABC, tonight…. Talk about wanting to save the 10th Amendment….

By: JMB

JMB — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:04:00 +0000

I think both Bill, and larry have important comments which should not be neglect.

When usurpers have an open invite, many will come to dinner.

By: JMB

JMB — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:00:47 +0000

Thanks Trouble, that means a lot.

Maintaining our representative republic, is the only way we will ever hope to restrain this federal, from its tyranny.