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	<title>Comments on: Randy Brogdon: Statements on Oklahoma Sovereignty</title>
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		<title>By: Official Endorsement of the Founder of the Tulsa Teaparty: Governor &#171; Musings of an American &#34;Everyman&#34;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Official Endorsement of the Founder of the Tulsa Teaparty: Governor &#171; Musings of an American &#34;Everyman&#34;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Randy is also a leader in the 10th Amendment battle to defend States&#8217; Rights. He authored SJR10, otherwise known as, the 1oth Amendment Resolution, in 2008, designed to protect states rights and prevent the federal government from overexerting its legislative power. Thanks to his work on the 10th Amendment Initiative, he was invited to speak to the Pennsylvania State Legislature, in March 2009. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Randy is also a leader in the 10th Amendment battle to defend States&#8217; Rights. He authored SJR10, otherwise known as, the 1oth Amendment Resolution, in 2008, designed to protect states rights and prevent the federal government from overexerting its legislative power. Thanks to his work on the 10th Amendment Initiative, he was invited to speak to the Pennsylvania State Legislature, in March 2009. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wirkman Netizen Â» Blog Archive &#187; It is right there, after the final comma</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wirkman Netizen Â» Blog Archive &#187; It is right there, after the final comma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Brogdon expressed the idea well enough. He said that Oklahoma is telling folks in Washington, DC, â€œloud and clear to end all [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Brogdon expressed the idea well enough. He said that Oklahoma is telling folks in Washington, DC, â€œloud and clear to end all [...]</p>
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		<title>By: tomdawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomdawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 15:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God Bless Senator Brogdon!!!  May this be a first step towards freedom for the people of Oklahoma, and all the people of the Sovereign States.  Liberty must survive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God Bless Senator Brogdon!!!  May this be a first step towards freedom for the people of Oklahoma, and all the people of the Sovereign States.  Liberty must survive.</p>
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		<title>By: USMCiNGEN</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMCiNGEN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it would be a terrible thing if a violent war took place in the United States.  That would not be the worst thing.  The worst thing would be that vile state of apathy and moral corruption that would leave my countrymen in tyranny.  Liberty is more important than life.

The 9th and 10th Amendments were drafted to serve precisely the purpose for which Senator Brogdon now cites them.

Bravo Senator Brogdon!  May the light of liberty shine upon us all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it would be a terrible thing if a violent war took place in the United States.  That would not be the worst thing.  The worst thing would be that vile state of apathy and moral corruption that would leave my countrymen in tyranny.  Liberty is more important than life.</p>
<p>The 9th and 10th Amendments were drafted to serve precisely the purpose for which Senator Brogdon now cites them.</p>
<p>Bravo Senator Brogdon!  May the light of liberty shine upon us all.</p>
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		<title>By: BK Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 09:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was the 16th amendment ever ratified? I don&#039;t believe it was. If states take on the responsibility of its citizens while still paying in Federal taxes, then you can watch for all state taxes to rise significantly unless states find a new source of revenue such as legalizing and taxing pot. This should be done anyway since the current laws regarding drugs are unconstitutional to begin with. We start messing with the Feds money and we are taking on something even bigger and more powerful than the Federal Govt and that is the Federal Reserve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was the 16th amendment ever ratified? I don&#8217;t believe it was. If states take on the responsibility of its citizens while still paying in Federal taxes, then you can watch for all state taxes to rise significantly unless states find a new source of revenue such as legalizing and taxing pot. This should be done anyway since the current laws regarding drugs are unconstitutional to begin with. We start messing with the Feds money and we are taking on something even bigger and more powerful than the Federal Govt and that is the Federal Reserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Brogdon: Statements on Oklahoma Sovereignty &#171; RECLAIM (.org) State Sovereignty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Brogdon: Statements on Oklahoma Sovereignty &#171; RECLAIM (.org) State Sovereignty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 10:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Corny The Clown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corny The Clown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is wishful thinking that the feds and the blue states will give up their free ride without a fight. When they are forced to support themselves, they won&#039;t be able to do so. It will be interesting to see how the liberal leaders will motivate the welfare masses to tight.

Secondly, the 16 amendment does need to be repealed. Look and see where the bulk of the money comes from and where it goes. Of course with the federal government borrowing 50 cents of every dollar it spends, it does get interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is wishful thinking that the feds and the blue states will give up their free ride without a fight. When they are forced to support themselves, they won&#8217;t be able to do so. It will be interesting to see how the liberal leaders will motivate the welfare masses to tight.</p>
<p>Secondly, the 16 amendment does need to be repealed. Look and see where the bulk of the money comes from and where it goes. Of course with the federal government borrowing 50 cents of every dollar it spends, it does get interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: B. Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no question in my mind that Sen. Brogdon is leading the states in the right direction.  But I recently ran across a post that claims that a Texas state congressman is against the idea of state sovereignty because the states derive their powers from the federal government, right? =^O So some of our state and federal government &quot;leaders,&quot; including Obama, will need to be reconnected with Founder&#039;s intentions as reflected by the Constitution and its history in order for the restoration of state sovereignty to really gain momentum, in my opinion, not that misguided people like Obama would support the movement.

And to really put some fangs into the state sovereignty movement, I think that the states ultimately need to repeal the 16th A., the amendment that gives the feds the power to tax citizens directly.  The problem with that amendment is that it has made it too easy for the corrupt federal government to lay constitutionally unauthorized taxes.  In fact, the feds are wrongly ignoring the following case precedent established by Chief Justice Marshall which limits the power of the feds to lay taxes.

&quot;Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.&quot; --Chief Justice Marshall, GIBBONS V. OGDEN (1824) http://supreme.justia.com/us/22/1/case.html

And once the 16th A. has been repealed and the federal income tax eliminated, the state governments can finance the feds with higher state taxes.  The reason for this is as follows.  The states can use their greater constitutional powers to serve the people to fight a downhill battle with the feds, eliminating constitutionally unauthorized federal taxes, keeping as many tax dollars in a given state as possible. (Did you hear that California?)

And when state government &quot;leaders&quot; show their voters that they are more interested in protecting the welfare of the federal government more than that of their own state, then they can look for another job.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no question in my mind that Sen. Brogdon is leading the states in the right direction.  But I recently ran across a post that claims that a Texas state congressman is against the idea of state sovereignty because the states derive their powers from the federal government, right? =^O So some of our state and federal government &#8220;leaders,&#8221; including Obama, will need to be reconnected with Founder&#8217;s intentions as reflected by the Constitution and its history in order for the restoration of state sovereignty to really gain momentum, in my opinion, not that misguided people like Obama would support the movement.</p>
<p>And to really put some fangs into the state sovereignty movement, I think that the states ultimately need to repeal the 16th A., the amendment that gives the feds the power to tax citizens directly.  The problem with that amendment is that it has made it too easy for the corrupt federal government to lay constitutionally unauthorized taxes.  In fact, the feds are wrongly ignoring the following case precedent established by Chief Justice Marshall which limits the power of the feds to lay taxes.</p>
<p>&#8220;Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States.&#8221; &#8211;Chief Justice Marshall, GIBBONS V. OGDEN (1824) <a href="http://supreme.justia.com/us/22/1/case.html" rel="nofollow">http://supreme.justia.com/us/22/1/case.html</a></p>
<p>And once the 16th A. has been repealed and the federal income tax eliminated, the state governments can finance the feds with higher state taxes.  The reason for this is as follows.  The states can use their greater constitutional powers to serve the people to fight a downhill battle with the feds, eliminating constitutionally unauthorized federal taxes, keeping as many tax dollars in a given state as possible. (Did you hear that California?)</p>
<p>And when state government &#8220;leaders&#8221; show their voters that they are more interested in protecting the welfare of the federal government more than that of their own state, then they can look for another job.</p>
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		<title>By: Trouble</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trouble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think we may be seeing the next step in the form of the Firearms Freedom Acts currently beginning to appear.  It&#039;s rather as if the Resolutions say &quot;Here&#039;s your warning&quot; and the FFAs are saying, &quot;This is our first action&quot;.

I rather like Glenn Beck&#039;s remark on this as the &quot;Civilest War&quot;.  His approach being that the battle is fought in the State legislatures and not on the battlefield.  Quite frankly, that would be the best route if we are allowed to take it.  However, those in power rarely relinquish it without a fight, so secession will have to remain an option for the future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we may be seeing the next step in the form of the Firearms Freedom Acts currently beginning to appear.  It&#8217;s rather as if the Resolutions say &#8220;Here&#8217;s your warning&#8221; and the FFAs are saying, &#8220;This is our first action&#8221;.</p>
<p>I rather like Glenn Beck&#8217;s remark on this as the &#8220;Civilest War&#8221;.  His approach being that the battle is fought in the State legislatures and not on the battlefield.  Quite frankly, that would be the best route if we are allowed to take it.  However, those in power rarely relinquish it without a fight, so secession will have to remain an option for the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Air Force Brat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Air Force Brat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 23:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Patrick Henry Lives -- no, we&#039;re not &quot;just fooling ourselves&quot;, not by any stretch of the imagination.  Technically states don&#039;t need sovereignty resolutions, but for most people there&#039;s just something about having things &quot;formalized&quot; in writing that makes them more willing to act, should the need arise.

The next step will be determined by Washington&#039;s response to the various states&#039; reassertion of their sovereignty.  Secession would be unwise except as a last resort, and would almost certainly result in martial law being declared, which in turn would bring about a full-scale civil war.

Take heart -- Americans don&#039;t HAVE masters; and though a usurper occupies the White House, the curtain will be pulled aside and it&#039;ll be just like in the Wizard of Oz, only a whole lot more satisfying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Henry Lives &#8212; no, we&#8217;re not &#8220;just fooling ourselves&#8221;, not by any stretch of the imagination.  Technically states don&#8217;t need sovereignty resolutions, but for most people there&#8217;s just something about having things &#8220;formalized&#8221; in writing that makes them more willing to act, should the need arise.</p>
<p>The next step will be determined by Washington&#8217;s response to the various states&#8217; reassertion of their sovereignty.  Secession would be unwise except as a last resort, and would almost certainly result in martial law being declared, which in turn would bring about a full-scale civil war.</p>
<p>Take heart &#8212; Americans don&#8217;t HAVE masters; and though a usurper occupies the White House, the curtain will be pulled aside and it&#8217;ll be just like in the Wizard of Oz, only a whole lot more satisfying.</p>
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