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		<title>Nancy, Are You Serious?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Natelson</dc:creator>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>by Jake Towne</em></p>
<p>Recently, the U.S. Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi,Â <a href="http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/55971">responding to a reporter&#8217;s question</a> of whether the Constitution gave Congress the authority to enact individual health insurance mandate, kept repeating, &#8220;Are you serious?&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://towneforcongress.com/uploads/image/Nancy_Pelosi.jpeg" alt="" hspace="10" vspace="10" align="right" />Now, let&#8217;s give Speaker Pelosi the benefit of the doubt and attribute her impolite reply to simple disbelief. In fact, from her point of view her authority is unchallenged per a September press release, and many others such asÂ <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28620.html">Politico&#8217;s Erwin Chemerinsky</a> and even the contemporary Supreme Court agree.Â <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/09/17/pelosis-misleading-statement-on-the-constitutionality-of-government-health-care/">From her press release</a>, Pelosi states:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Constitution gives Congress broad power to regulate activities that have an effect on interstate commerce. Congress has used this authority to regulate many aspects of American life, from labor relations to education to health care to agricultural production.Â <strong>Since virtually every aspect of the heath care system has an effect on interstate commerce, the power of Congress to regulate health care isÂ <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">essentially unlimited</span></em>.</strong>&#8220;<span id="more-3593"></span></p>
<p>The Speaker is certainly correct that federal Congress has certainly legislated on &#8220;many aspects of American life.&#8221;Â  In fact, there is a lot more at stake with the Commerce Clause than &#8220;just&#8221; our health care â€” the entire authority for economic central planning rests on this single clause. I strongly disagree with Pelosi that the Constitution allows Congress broad power in this respect. First, the exact language fromÂ <a href="http://towneforcongress.com/economy/jakes-job-description-for-2011-2012-1">my job description</a> in Powers of Congress,Â <a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html">Article I, Section 8, Clause 3</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>The Congress shall have Power&#8230; to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States</strong>, and with the Indian Tribes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Pelosi believes that she has the power to &#8220;regulate Commerce&#8230; among the several States&#8221; and I suggest that in blunt language she instead literally means to &#8220;control the economy&#8230; of the States.&#8221;Â  Pelosi and her ilk accomplish this by confusing the modern meanings with the legal meaning and contemporary context of the founders.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/regulation">Regulation</a>, in today&#8217;s dictionaries, means &#8220;a governmental order having the force of law.&#8221; However, this is not the historical definition.Â  The founders believed &#8220;regulate&#8221; to literally mean &#8216;to make more regular&#8217; or, perÂ <a href="http://www.constitution.org/cs_legal.htm">Black&#8217;s Law Dictionary at the time</a>, &#8220;a rule or order prescribed for management or government; a regulating principle; a precept.&#8221; In other words, regulate meant that Congress should in principle assist with Commerce disputes between the States, but did not grant Congress the power of law to inflict criminal penalties. This is most clearly seen inÂ <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/kentucky-resolutions-of-1798/">Article 2 of the Kentucky Resolutions of 1798</a> written by Thomas Jefferson.</p>
<p>Next, although the Federalist Papers are not legal documents, they do serve as public demonstrations of the founders&#8217; intentions as they were part of a series of essays published to explain the Constitution to the public before its&#8217; ratification. James Madison<a href="http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/poldocs/fed-papers.pdf"> in Federalist #42 wrote</a>:</p>
<p>&#8220;The defect[s] of power in the existing Confederacy to regulate the commerce between its several members&#8230; [has] been clearly pointed out by experience&#8230; It may be added that without this supplemental provision, the great and essential power of regulating foreign commerce would have been incomplete and ineffectual.Â <strong>A very material object of this power was the relief of the States which import and export through other States, from the improper contributions levied on them by the latter.</strong> Were these at liberty to regulate the trade between State and State, it must be foreseen that ways would be found out to load the articles of import and export, during the passage through their jurisdiction, with duties which would fall on the makers of the latter and the consumers of the former. We may be assured by past experience, that such a practice would be introduced by future contrivances; and both by that and a common knowledge of human affairs, that it would nourish unceasing animosities, and not improbably terminate in serious interruptions of the public tranquillity&#8230;Â <strong>it would stimulate the injured party, by resentment as well as interest, to resort to less convenient channels for their foreign trade</strong>&#8230; The necessity of a superintending authority over the reciprocal trade of confederated States, has been illustrated by other examples as well as our own. In Switzerland, where the Union is so very slight, each canton is obliged to allow to merchandises a passage through its jurisdiction into other cantons, without an augmentation of the tolls.&#8221;</p>
<p>A modern example of &#8220;unregulated&#8221; Commerce by the founder&#8217;s meaning would be manufacturing companies in the interior of India, which has 28 states. As goods move by rail or truck from interior states to a seaport in a coastal state, each state assesses its own tariff at its border which rightly leads to &#8220;animosities&#8221; and a &#8220;less convenient channel&#8221; for foreign trade. But what did the founders mean by &#8216;Commerce&#8217;?</p>
<p>Within the last century, several American lawyers have claimed the founder&#8217;s definition of commerce was &#8220;all gainful activities&#8221; or &#8220;all human interactions.&#8221; This has been taken by the leviathan federal Government as authority to control not just health care, but the minimum wage, manufacturing, agriculture, the mining, oil and lumber industries, possession of firearms, land use, criminal law such as federal drug laws, and environmental protection, in most cases usurping states&#8217; rightsÂ <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com">per the 10th Amendment</a> and in some cases even inventing jurisdictions.</p>
<p>Fortunately, Dr. Robert Natelson wrote a well-documented paperÂ <a href="http://www.umt.edu/law/faculty/natelson/articles/Commerce%20Clause.pdf">&#8220;The Legal Meaning of &#8216;Commerce&#8217; in the Commerce Clause&#8221;</a> in 1996. After examining thousands of instances of &#8216;Commerce&#8217; used in contemporary legal documents, Natelson concluded that commerce simply and exclusively meant &#8220;exchange&#8221; or &#8220;traffic&#8221; and its associated activities, such as navigation, to the founders. In simple English, commerce benefits agriculture or manufacturing, butÂ <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><em>does not</em></span><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> <em>include</em></span><em> </em>either agriculture or manufacturing. Furthermore, Natelson notes:</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>If we read &#8220;Commerce among the several States&#8221; to mean &#8220;all gainful economic activity among the several States,&#8221; then the clauses by which Congress is empowered to regulate commerce with &#8220;foreign Nations&#8221; and the &#8220;Indian Tribes&#8221; become </strong>either<strong> largely redundant</strong> or nonsensical. Even more seriously,Â <strong>if the Commerce Clause grants Congress power to regulate all economic activities, then some of Congressâ€™ other economic powers become surplus.</strong>&#8221;</p>
<p>So, if the Commerce Clause gave Congress economic central planning authority, many of the powers listed inÂ <a href="http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html">the Constitution</a>would be redundant. The powers of Congress over postal roads and offices, dockyards, intellectual property, and more would be repetitive if the power was already enumerated in the Commerce Clause. During the Federalist Papers debate, one would have expected the Commerce Clause to have been hotly debated by the anti-Federalists if it had been truly intended to give unlimited power over all gainful economic activities to the federal government.Â <a href="http://www2.hn.psu.edu/faculty/jmanis/poldocs/fed-papers.pdf">Federalist #42</a> would not have been able to dodge such a huge stripping of power from the States. What do we hear from the historical record? Silence, which indicates that this was a non-issue.</p>
<p>Natelson goes into a lot more detail than I have, and it is much easier to shred the other constitutional references given to support government infringement into health care. Â Please read myÂ <a href="http://towneforcongress.com/platform-issues/health-care">Health Care plank</a> which also links to the Constitution of the USSR (whichÂ <strong>DOES</strong> authorize government involvement in health care) and thisÂ <a href="http://towneforcongress.com/economy/health-care-and-the-constitution">great discussion on the &#8220;General Welfare&#8221; clause</a>.</p>
<p>The &#8220;Necessary and Proper&#8221; clause is briefly dismissed by the referenced Natelson paper, but more strongly in his other papers. In short, Pelosi and the rest of CongressÂ <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>simply MUST have a constitutional amendment passed before legislating on health care</strong></span>. Their actions in Congress are highly illegal, and is one of many unconstitutional and illegal acts committed against the American people by Congress.Â  Since no help can be expected from the appointed-for-life Supreme Court, the last defense, really the only defense, is that of We the People ourselves.</p>
<p>So in formal reply to Speaker Pelosi, even the notion of federal government authority over the health care of the American people is completely absurd. My reply is: &#8220;Madame Speaker, areÂ <em><strong>YOU</strong></em> serious?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.towneforcongress.com/" target="_blank"><em>Jake Towne</em></a><em>, â€œThe Champion of the Constitution,â€Â isÂ running for U.S. CongressÂ in Pennsylvaniaâ€™s 15th District in the 2010 election as a citizen unaffiliated with any political parties.Â  Jake is a columnist at </em><a href="http://www.nolanchart.com/author481.html"><em>NolanChart</em></a><em>, and also contributes to </em><a href="http://www.libertymaven.com/" target="_blank"><em>LibertyMaven</em></a><em> and </em><a href="http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?author=3" target="_blank"><em>CampaignForLiberty</em></a><em>.</em></p>
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		<title>Nancy Pelosi: Wrong on Health Care</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Natelson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[by Rob Natelson &#8211; original article posted 09-17-09 Speaker Nancy Pelosi has issued a press release in which she purports to rebut those of us who have expressed doubts about the constitutionality of some health care reform plans. Pelosi (or her ghostwriter) claims: &#8220;The 10th amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that the powers not [...]]]></description>
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<p><em>by Rob Natelson &#8211; </em><em><a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/09/17/pelosis-misleading-statement-on-the-constitutionality-of-government-health-care/">original article posted 09-17-09</a></em></p>
<p>Speaker Nancy Pelosi has issued a <a href="http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/09-16-2009/0005095601&amp;EDATE=" target="_blank">press release</a> in which she purports to rebut those of us who have expressed doubts about the constitutionality of some health care reform plans.</p>
<p>Pelosi (or her ghostwriter) claims:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com">10th amendment</a></em><em> to the U.S. Constitution states that the powers not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states&#8230; or to the people. But the Constitution gives Congress broad power to regulate activities that have an effect on interstate commerce. Congress has used this authority to regulate many aspects of American life, from labor relations to education to health care to agricultural production. <strong>Since virtually every aspect of the heath care system has an effect on interstate commerce, the power of Congress to regulate health care is essentially unlimited. </strong>(bolded in original).</em></p>
<p>For several reasons, this is a <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/18/is-obamacare-constitutional/">highly misleading statement</a>.</p>
<p>First, it fails to mention a concern expressed by many constitutional scholars, including those on the Left: Substantive due process.</p>
<p>&#8220;Substantive due process&#8221; is the doctrine by which the Supreme Court strikes down laws it deems unacceptably interfere with personal privacy or autonomy. Health care laws that, for example, limit oneâ€™s ability to fund and control oneâ€™s own health care could well run afoul of substantive due process rules.</p>
<p>Second, the statement fails to mention that, while the Supreme Court has upheld many delegations of power from Congress to executive branch agencies, the Court has affirmed repeatedly that there are limits. Some health care proposals involve wider delegations of authority than any since the New Dealâ€™s National Reconstruction Adminisration (NRA) &#8212; which was invalidated by a unanimous Court.</p>
<p>Third, the Pelosi release disregards the fact that on several occasions the modern Supreme Court has struck down overreaching federal legislation, supposedly adopted under the Commerce Power. Also, on several occasions, the Court has interpreted congressional acts narrowly to avoid constitutional conflicts.</p>
<p>Fourth: Pelosi (or her speechwriter) clearly misstate the current Supreme Courtâ€™s test for laws under the Constitutionâ€™s <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/20/claiming-almost-everything-is-commerce/">Commerce Power</a>. The statement that Congress can regulate &#8220;activities that have an effect on interstate commerce&#8221; should be that Congress can regulate &#8220;economic activities that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce.&#8221; Non-economic activities, such as some health care decisions, would have to meet a much stricter test. This may seem to be a minor mistake, but for legal purposes it is an important one, and one that, for the Speaker of the House of Representatives, is not easily excusable.</p>
<p>Finally, Pelosi (or her ghostwriter) commits the mistake of failing to look at wider judicial trends. One of these trends is the long-term movement by the Supreme Court toward interpreting the Constitution according to its real meaning â€“ the original understanding of the Founders and Ratifiers.</p>
<p>And virtually no knowledgeable person thinks government health care is constitutional under that standard.</p>
<p><em>Rob Natelson is Professor of Law at The University of Montana, and a leading constitutional scholar.  (See </em><a href="http://www.umt.edu/law/faculty/natelson.htm" target="_blank"><em>www.umt.edu/law/faculty/natelson.htm</em></a><em>.) His opinions are his own, and should not be attributed to any other person or institution.</em></div>
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		<title>Pelosi&#8217;s Misleading Statement on the Constitutionality of Government Health Care</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rob Natelson</dc:creator>
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<p><em>by Rob Natelson</em></p>
<p>Speaker Nancy Pelosi has issued aÂ <a href="http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/09-16-2009/0005095601&amp;EDATE=" target="_blank">press release</a> in which she purports to rebut those of us who have expressed doubts about the constitutionality of some health care reform plans.</p>
<p>Pelosi (or her ghostwriter) claims:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><em>&#8220;The <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com">10th amendment</a></em><em> to the U.S. Constitution states that the powers not delegated to the federal government by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states&#8230; or to the people. But the Constitution gives Congress broad power to regulate activities that have an effect on interstate commerce. Congress has used this authority to regulate many aspects of American life, from labor relations to education to health care to agricultural production.Â <strong>Since virtually every aspect of the heath care system has an effect on interstate commerce, the power of Congress to regulate health care is essentially unlimited. </strong>(bolded in original).</em></p>
<p>For several reasons, this is a <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/18/is-obamacare-constitutional/">highly misleading statement</a>.<span id="more-3061"></span></p>
<p>First, it fails to mention a concern expressed by many constitutional scholars, including those on the Left: Substantive due process.</p>
<p>&#8220;Substantive due process&#8221; is the doctrine by which the Supreme Court strikes down laws it deems unacceptably interfere with personal privacy or autonomy. Health care laws that, for example, limit oneâ€™s ability to fund and control oneâ€™s own health care could well run afoul of substantive due process rules.</p>
<p>Second, the statement fails to mention that, while the Supreme Court has upheld many delegations of power from Congress to executive branch agencies, the Court has affirmed repeatedly that there are limits. Some health care proposals involve wider delegations of authority than any since the New Dealâ€™s National Reconstruction Adminisration (NRA) &#8212; which was invalidated by a unanimous Court.</p>
<p>Third, the Pelosi release disregards the fact that on several occasions the modern Supreme Court has struck down overreaching federal legislation, supposedly adopted under the Commerce Power. Also, on several occasions, the Court has interpreted congressional acts narrowly to avoid constitutional conflicts.</p>
<p>Fourth: Pelosi (or her speechwriter) clearly misstate the current Supreme Courtâ€™s test for laws under the Constitutionâ€™s <a href="http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/20/claiming-almost-everything-is-commerce/">Commerce Power</a>. The statement that Congress can regulate &#8220;activities that have an effect on interstate commerce&#8221; should be that Congress can regulate &#8220;economic activities that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce.&#8221;Â Non-economic activities, such as some health care decisions, would have to meet a much stricter test. This may seem to be a minor mistake, but for legal purposes it is an important one, and one that, for the Speaker of the House of Representatives, is not easily excusable.</p>
<p>Finally, Pelosi (or her ghostwriter) commits the mistake of failing to look at wider judicial trends. One of these trends is the long-term movement by the Supreme Court toward interpreting the Constitution according to its real meaning â€“ the original understanding of the Founders and Ratifiers.</p>
<p>And virtually no knowledgeable person thinks government health care is constitutional under that standard.</p>
<p><em>Rob Natelson is Professor of Law at The University of Montana, and a leading constitutional scholar.Â  (See </em><a href="http://www.umt.edu/law/faculty/natelson.htm" target="_blank"><em>www.umt.edu/law/faculty/natelson.htm</em></a><em>.) His opinions are his own, and should not be attributed to any other person or institution.</em></div>
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		<title>Turn off those lights! Or else</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 17:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Politicians already exercise the (unconstitutional) power to tell us what we can drink, what we can smoke, how much we should earn, what many products should cost and much more. Now, they want to tell us what kind of light bulb we should be &#8220;allowed&#8221; to use in the privacy of our own homes. EagleAg [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Politicians already exercise the (unconstitutional) power to tell us what we can drink, what we can smoke, how much we should earn, what many products should cost and much more.</p>
<p>Now, they want to tell us what kind of light bulb we should be &#8220;allowed&#8221; to use in the privacy of our own homes.<span id="more-94"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://1declaration.blogspot.com/2008/06/ted-poe-r-tx-brings-out-consitution.html" target="_blank">EagleAg at the 1Declaration Blog</a> gives a good overview and analysis:</p>
<p align="left"><em>Republican House Member Ted Poe from Texas has brought out his Constitution and asks Speaker Pelosi where in the Constitution it says that the federal government has the authority to make us use a certain type of light bulb, the compact fluorescent (CFL). They don&#8217;t!</em></p>
<p><em>Where will it stop?  If you have not read the Constitution in a long time, try reading it. Take special note of the 10th Amendment, which delegates any authority not specifically granted the federal government to the states. Tell me where it says the federal government can tell me what type of light bulb I can use.</em><br />
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Bring back the Constitution!</em></p>
<p>Watch the Video:</p>
<p>httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LOtKIIKcg</p>
<p>Unfortunately, not many people in this country have actually read the Constitution.  But if they did, the only way they could find anything about &#8220;light bulbs&#8221; would be to completely make it up  &#8211; like the Congress and Supreme Court have routinely done over the years.</p>
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