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By: WilliamSchooler

WilliamSchooler — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:10:51 +0000

I agree with this article to the degree it supports all life within all states. Life being the unalienable or the reason for any of it.

Lets look at how we have arrived to this wealth of federal power, through corrupt states? As well through some corrupt in Federal Government.

It is not the symbols upon these doctrine that make them valid in any form, it is the activities the symbols represent showing us any such cause. When symbols dictate our lives and not our actions in support of ourselves as sovereign do we loose sight of the original intent.

Lets be real here, the Declaration of Independence is directly tied at the hip and one document must support the other or neither hold value in supporting activities. The activities showing and verifying any such concept.

Let us not become entirely stuck on the symbols and decide based upon the activity and the results now described by such symbols. Yes some scholarly did put these words together based on findings of activities but some had opposing intent to corrupt or we would have never arrived at interpretation. This only comes about when we refuse the actions and pride ourselves on the symbol as all mighty which they are not.

The ideal concept is to support life and to do this Liberty must be in place to allow life to pursue its ideas and dreams. To stop governments from intruding into this activity and allow it. People keep forgetting why we have a constitution at all. It only becomes clear when you become independent (free of the corrupt) Same as LIberty only not as well constructed as it is in the constitution as a clear form or clear line of distinction. The clarity is LIMITED Governments especially Federal but many states adopted this in their own constitutions because Republics do not survive by big Government period. This answer does not need to be located more than once but has many times over throughout all histories.

It is time we stop the arguing and stick to the points that truly matter, are the activities these symbols describe taking place or aren’t they? NO! what is the correction to make this possible? the review and clarity of activities and the symbols that support this activity by representation.
The action is to Limit both Federal Government as well state Government because both have gone rogue do to the intrusiveness of banking cartels who have corrupted previous Governments as was documented in the Declaration of Independence, leaving it out is like leaving out the heart of the body.

Remember in this land there has been a large emphasis on words themselves and not activities and the results of these. All successes seem to be measured in dollars and cents which does not constitute success in governing does it?
The word achievement needs a closer consideration in that we do actions to be successful at Republics where Life is allowed to roam and test ideas. To create exchanges for these ideas and to have this ability Governments must be limited because they produce no good ideas, they are asked to support our ideas which in essence shall be in the support of life, not limited to only a few lives but for all life within these republics and beyond without limit. Because Life by activity has no such limits, we are capable of generating limitless ideas, we are able to test these, verify these and display these. We are all able to decide on the usefulness as well of the support of us and in these activities no limits exists because all limits are ideas to only limit by some who THINK they should control what life does. This activity has been repeated more times than I can count. These are all lessons to LEARN from not to be BOUND by.

Lessons are brought on by experiences not by symbols period. Let us use our capabilities over our own ignorances.
There is no such thing as I am right and you are wrong, there is actions that show support for life or there is activity showing no support what so ever. These viewed are the results of such activities, now take some symbols and represent these actions and results. Do these sound familiar? If you do not believe me I request you go to a Library and browse some good unabridged dictionaries and prove to me without question you have completely got all these ideas passed on to you, what, to mammoth is it? Let us stop pretending we are the masters of symbolization and become the masters of our own activities by our own choices in support of documents meant to support us as life by such activities and stop playing the scholarly word game to no where because it too has history should you dare take that walk.

WE are to be A Republic which by the original definition meant to be life, people, public in communities providing each other with ideas and activities that support us, sustain us and allow us to grow without limits placed upon us by others. These Republics are empowered by a clear Constitution which clearly states those put in the governing bodies are limited to what we give and allow them. That Financial institutions have no place in our Governing bodies in any form for reasons beyond verification or without question. That we are supposed to be allowed to experience ideas here across this land because as life this is what we do BY SUCH ACTIVITIES. That we be allowed to review all and make our own determinations and decisions in all such communities and that these be regulated by rule of law which is in support of life and not the control of it, the destruction of it or any other stupid idea of history to decline life itself. Let us stop acting like we are not the deciding force of what goes on in this life, because as sure as I sit here we are this capable should we DECIDE to be period.

By: Bob Greenslade

Bob Greenslade — Sat, 31 Mar 2012 03:52:36 +0000

I am elated to see the words “compact between the States” and “agent of the States” on the Tenth Amendment Center. When I made these points several years ago it triggered some heated discussions. Way to go Mr. Lyons!

That being said, I think Mr. Lyons could have sealed the deal if he had incorporated Article V into the “let’s review” part of his essay.

Pursuant to that Article, the Constitution can only be amended by a vote of the States. Neither Congress, nor a majority of the American people, as comprising one nation, can amend the Constitution. In fact, the American people, as comprising one nation, cannot propose changes to the Constitution. Likewise, neither the federal government, nor the whole people, can intercede and nullify a vote of the States on constitutional changes (Constitutional Convention). The amendment immediately becomes part of the Constitution irrespective of whether Congress approves or disapproves. That body is constitutionally bound by the actions of the States because the Constitution is a compact between the States and the federal government is simply their agent or representative.

Through the amendment process, the 38 (three-fourths) smallest States, with a minority of the population, can bind the remaining 12 States with a majority of the population. By way of the amendment process, the States have the authority to restrict or enlarge the powers of the federal government but that government lacks the authority restrict or enlarge the powers of the States. In fact, the States have the constitutional authority to abolish the powers of their federal government but that government lacks the constitutional authority to abolish the powers of the States.

This proves conclusively that the federal government exists at the pleasure of the States, not vice versa. It also confirms that the parties to the Constitution are the States because they are the only parties that can amend the document.

By: KG120

KG120 — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:54:45 +0000

What About the Individual? What about the Person? Rather than “States Rights”, what about the rights of individuals? People got together and protested and help pass the Civil Rights Act. Not states, Individuals.

People who advocate “States Rights” Should understand that your arguement became null and void at Appromatox Court House!

By: ScottStr

ScottStr — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:40:28 +0000

Spot on brother. Spot on. Too many people either think the BOR applies to both the states and the federal govt, or the states only. That misconception forms the basis for improper constitutional construction. We have a lot of work to do to educate the masses that have been indoctrinated through public schools, dishonorable elected officials, ideologues, tyrants, and the main stream media.