Yes, They DO Hate the Constitution!

“I would not look to the United States Constitution if I were drafting a Constitution in the year 2012”

Amazingly, these words are from United States Supreme Court Justice, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, in a New York Times article entitled ‘We the People’ Loses Appeal With People Around the World.

The article goes on to quote a number of “Law Scholars”, Professors, Foreign Judges and our own Supreme Court Justices, all lamenting that our Constitution is out of touch with the modern world.

One may dismiss the above quote coming from Ginsburg, a dedicated Socialist who worked for the A.C.L.U., has advocated the use of foreign law in shaping her opinions and has shown little respect for our Constitution throughout her career.

However, her  fellow Justice, the supposedly ultra-conservative and strict constructionist Antonin Scalia is quoted as saying “ The bill of rights of the former evil empire, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, was much better than ours…we guarantee freedom of speech and of the press, big deal. They guaranteed freedom of speech, of the press, of street demonstrations and protest, and anyone who is caught trying to suppress criticism of the government will be called to account. Whoa, that is wonderful stuff!”  All I can think of saying is, Holy C&@p!

It is very frightening that these “reputable” scholars and Justices do not understand the meaning and intent of the Constitution they have sworn to honor and uphold.  The drafters and ratifiers would be appalled at how the Supreme Court has “interpreted” a document meant to secure the rights of the people, not grant rights.

These scholars seem to forget that thirteen individual and sovereign entities declared independence and fought a long bloody war to secure that independence against a tyrannical central government.  These States created and then delegated certain limited and enumerated powers to their own central government in the hopes of securing the blessings of “Life, liberty and property (happiness)” to them and their posterity.

The contentious debates during the State ratifying conventions were replete with concerns that they were delegating too much power to the central government. It was only because a “Bill of Rights” was promised to allay those concerns and …”in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of the (federal governments) power that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added” that the Constitution was even ratified, and only by three votes in New York!

James Madison in Federalist number Forty-Five states: “The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government, are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.”

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Most scholars seem to forget that there were thirteen individual Constitutions already guaranteeing “freedom of press, religion, speech, fair trials, and the right to keep and bear arms” long before the United States Constitution came into being. It was these individual and sovereign states and their constitutions, created by the people that protected their individual rights and liberties, not the United States Constitution or Federal government because neither were yet created!

The United States Constitution was eventually adopted by the people of those States as a means to secure the liberties of the States united.  The “scholars” quoted in the article do not seem to understand that the created cannot be greater than the creator. The States created the Federal government and its Constitution to protect their interest, not the rest of the worlds as some may believe. In fact, who cares what they think anyway.

NOTE: The preceding was recorded at the close of Tenther Radio Episode 37 on February 29, 2012. The show airs live online every Wednesday at 5pm Pacific Time here. Find us on iTunes at this link.

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46 comments
v steve
v steve

No true USA American would say that about our constitutionI, I would say that United States supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg is probably a socialist, communist or a marxist. USA Americans have to stop voting for socialist, communist or marxist for our federal state and local governments, they will put other socialist, communist, marxist in other offices.  

Andrew Merrill
Andrew Merrill

I think it's nice and all that we're attempting to get back to our roots, by being a more States/Constitutional oriented government...but I just hope we don't see some kind of violent restructuring...as that is likely to only add more fuel/ammo to their perspective of justification...almost as if they're investing in that kind of scenario.

Andrew Merrill
Andrew Merrill

I think it's nice and all that we're attempting to get back to our roots, by being a more States/Constitutional oriented government...but I just hope we don't see some kind of violent restructuring...as that is likely to only add more fuel/ammo to their perspective of justification...almost as if they're investing in that kind of scenario.

Ed Warden
Ed Warden

It's time for that LIBERAL PIECE OF CRAP TO RETIRE and go live in KENYA with her lover boy O!

Charles Lewis
Charles Lewis

Ruthie should be impeached. If I remember, with hand on Bible, I swear to defend the US CONSTITUTION against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic................. NOW SHE IS TRASHING IT......... GET ANOTHER JOB YA COMMUNIST !!!! Has lived offf tax payers for most of her life...............................

Christine Cox
Christine Cox

@ Mark Kenyon your remark makes me think of the 10th amendment and how many states are using right now. Right On!

Christine Cox
Christine Cox

don't get me started on the fools who think they're "Supreme"

Mark Kenyon
Mark Kenyon

Since the Feds are refusing to abide by their Constitution, the States governments need to ( and some are ) protecting the citizens within their borders. If a compact/agreement is disregarded on one side,the other side cannot be expected to keep their side of the compact. It fall to the States to protect their citizens against a power crazy government. I just hope a majority of States ARE protecting the people.

Mark Tittle
Mark Tittle

Ruth, you're so smart- just go start your own country, then, bitch!

Christopher White
Christopher White

We have a generation of "law scholars" who have no idea what the document they purport to comment on means. Much like atheist "scholars" trying to understand the Middle Ages: if you don't understand Christianity, you won't understand why people thought and acted as they did in an age when Europe and "Christendom" were synonyms....

David Welsh
David Welsh

Supreme Court justices have, for the most part, been nothing more than puffed-up lawyers who learned zilch about the Constitution when in law school.

giglygiglee
giglygiglee like.author.displayName 1 Like

 

All the states have unconstitutional aristocratic courts, as their constitutions and/or unconstitutional legal systems require judges to be lawyers, creating a RULING CLASS, which is FORBIDDEN by Art. IV, Sec. 4, of the U.S. Constitution, "The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a REPUBLICAN FORM of government". Any other form of government is FORBIDDEN. No public office or branch of government can be limited to a RULING CLASS of any kind or the states become ARISTOCRACIES and NOT republics. Also, the lawyers have made ONLY themselves 1st class citizens, where all public offices and all three branches of government are open to lawyers only. All other people are limited to only 2 branches of government and to only certain offices in those 2 branches of government. ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NON-LAWYERS HAVE BEEN UNCONSTITUTIONALLY DEGRADED BY THE LAWYERS TO THE STATUS OF 2ND CLASS CITIZEN.

giglygiglee
giglygiglee

Who the hell do these people think they are?  Gods?  Better than you and me?  Above the law?  that their sh*t don't stink?  All the above?  Then it is time to take action.  Words are no longer enough.  The longer the people continue to use only talking or debate to save our liberties and country in this continual trashing of our freedoms by those wielding power, the sooner we all lose everything for ever.

WilliamSchooler
WilliamSchooler

@giglygiglee

This is very true, so which actions do you propose, and why are you taking the actions? One of the projects I am working on now to the get people involved in understanding them and how these ideas of A Republic directly apply to them personally and to include the supporting ideas of this way of life. This includes Liberty through the Constitution but first we must have sights of where we are going and exactly how we arrive and what that looks like.

 

To defy them we must ignore the ignorant ones and stop acknowledging they do a damn thing and focus our energies on what we do to correct it. We have the will and we have the power and the only thing we lack is clear direction. I am taking personal responsibility in this activity with the hopes people will facilitate its growth because of the experiences I allow them to live by my presentation, their understanding and the steps they personally take.

 

A Force to be reckoned with is an informed group with the ability to deliver the goods. No one has done what I am preparing to do and I not sure why because what I am doing is exactly how all things get done when working to achieve an idea. So it seems foolish to me no others have realized the very things they do every day in the acts of achieving.

 

But I am both clear in my direction and firmly set upon my foundation and people are discovering the impacts I am creating and their own arguments dissolving in their own midst. There is nothing more fun than watching someone with some old idea they have been carrying around all this time and all the sudden see it disappear and become something else. I help people question themselves, I cannot write it as well as I live it and when they get in my presence they even have fun. I can make you laugh and I can make you cry all by presentation and including you. Can you tell I have been practicing on people? I have my first ever public  event next week and I am ready. Its not big but I do hope because of their own excitement is grows. The evidence I have so far supports these hopes.

 

Maybe one day you will find yourself in one of my meetings scratching your head asking why you didn’t think of this, or you will be scared of having anything to do with me, LOL because I don’t lie and we know how truth can treat some people. RUN! LOL...

 

 

Melvin E Holliday
Melvin E Holliday

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a Liberal zealot that should be stripped of her robe and disbarred in front of all Americans so that they can see what happens to Justices that choose to not follow our Constitution and prefers that of Russia and others for her brand of Justice. The main job of the Supreme court is to rule on Constitutional issues so anyone that doesn't prescribe to those rules as just and fair cannot ever be counted on to make a fair and unbiased opinion on those same rules.  This Justice has publically stated her disdain for that very Constitution.

 

RemembertheAlamo
RemembertheAlamo

Why don't they just state in very specific words that "we just want to control the world--we are sick of all you little people below us that cause us trouble and get in our way complicating our superior lives.

Hell overfloweth....

JohnHouk
JohnHouk like.author.displayName 1 Like

I am certain Justice Scalia was taken out of context because he is no dummy. Perhaps Scalia was referring to the text of USSR Bill of Rights (or whatever it was called). The USSR was notorious for legal promises but either not fulfilling promises or abrogating a law with a new obscure law. The text is outstanding yet not enforced on the old Soviet Union. Besides I doubt Ginsburg would be on board with the text of the USSR Rights and would be closer to how the USSR enforced the text.

whoisjohngalt
whoisjohngalt

 @JohnHouk I also agree on Scalia. At worst, it sounds as if he was being facetious. It has to be sarcasm, after all, the Soviets certainly didn't protect anyone's right to criticize the government.

zacncat
zacncat

 @JohnHouk

 I agree with you on Scalia. We must be careful not to mis-quote or vilify our allies. We will lose credibility that way. Now....I'm not saying that Scalia is infalable, we need to keep our eye on our friends as well, but we must be sure not to take them out of context.

OleSarge
OleSarge like.author.displayName 1 Like

THis   confirms what I have said for some time. The real problem is that the  “Law Scholars”, Professors, Foreign Judges and our own Supreme Court Justices are out of touch with the Constitution!

 

WE The People still believe in the Constitution but all these scholars wanty to modify or destroy it becuse it doesnt fit their opinions.

 

If as much effort was placed in conforming to it as thetre is oppopsing nit, there wouldnt be a problem!

 

 I suggest that if the  “Law Scholars”, Professors, Foreign Judges and our own Supreme Court Justices,  dont approve of the Constition they should go back where they are better qualified and place an application with McDonalds!.

etnpatriot
etnpatriot like.author.displayName 1 Like

Scalia was using that comment in jest. "what our framers would have called a parchment garauntee"  is was rest of the Quote.

Gz7
Gz7 like.author.displayName 1 Like

So, if we can document Ruth's treasonous approach to the Supreme Court, why is there no action to remove her from the bench? This inactivity by our elected leaders is the real crime here.

Roberto Benitez
Roberto Benitez

 @Gz7 The only supreme Court justice to be impeached was Justice Chase and he was acquitted. He was impeached in 1804 when Jefferson tried to remove all Federalist judges despite lifetime appointments. The charges involved his rulings as a trial judge in lower circuit courts. Since then no supreme Court judge has been impeached.

 

In addition, even if impeachment charges were brought against Bader-Ginsberg, or even a Democratic president, no Democrat senator would vote for impeachment. It takes a 2/3rds majority to convict and remove from office. Remember that Pres. Clinton was impeached but not convicted.

TheEagleKeeper
TheEagleKeeper

So sad. The reason she is sitting where she is sitting is because of that Constitution

MichaelMcCarthy
MichaelMcCarthy like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @TheEagleKeeper

 No. The reasons she's sitting there is because a president nominated her knowing she didn't care about the constitution. Why else would a Democrat president nominate someone?

Roberto Benitez
Roberto Benitez

 @MichaelMcCarthy  @TheEagleKeeper Let's face it, presidents, be they conservative or liberal, nominate those they believe who will reflect their political views, not necessarily to rule on the constitutionality of a law according to a strict interpretation of the Constitution. 

WilliamSchooler
WilliamSchooler

None of these people understand Independence, they do not view themselves from the life perspective and are represented as law scholars when they are actually lawless creating false law.

 

The Union Soviet Socialist Republics from the definition of land mass and not of public. This very idea is corrupted by the scholarly intellects because of their insatiable appetite to rule, a philosophy that goes against the true definition of Republic.

 

Those intent on Rule will never be able to grasp the idea of the constitution because it goes directly against their way of life and is what we have personally chosen, to be free of them the Rule. But rule refuses to let anyone be free of them and their wrath as history has provided unlimited examples of such.

 

The limits to them created by the Public for the public by public in meetings and arguments is which way of life? And when we say, “way of life” which direction does this impose? And why a way for life, why does life get to choose? Who is life if not the public living it? Who decides for life, life or some other life pretending to be more than life is?

 

When I answer the simple question what is life? All I can find is a creator of ideas and a determination to decide, a force choosing a direction. A way of life is the direction and has ideas that support such a way, it has effort and actions to support such a way, but when the way is obscured, is unclear, is filled with falseness does it fall prey in becoming lost. Who rejuvenates this? Who rediscovers the why in the very first place? Was there a need for a Constitution to limit a Government who imposed itself on life? What makes us so sure? Our discovery of ourselves as life, as idea creators, as decision makers, as authority upon our own choices?

 

We in America became independent of old lies in our foundation of this country the Declaration of Independence plain and simple. This declared gave rise to a constitution in these 13 states to be free of any Government imposing upon them. Together there was a Constitution assimilated to create a very limited federal Government to support all these states. Other states were then added with agreement to have their own constitutions and to assure they would limit Federal Government.

 

But this was life, public, politics that did this and not Governments that did this. Governments in all of history always attempt to bring the idea to Rule over Republic and the constant fight is the people to rain in Government to live within the means of A Republic. This battle is constant throughout all of history and when we give up the fight, when we forget our foundation, when we refuse to stand up do we allow Government its total desire. And when all is said and done will it be found the direction became lost until their was no sight of it, no more ideas to support it, no more great decisions to support it, no more effort, no more fight until it is completely gone as History has reported and look here we are. Stuck between a choice, to recognize our basis, our reason and our foundation or to relent to the rule of Government once more expecting some different result. Yet history over the course of centuries reports back no good can ever come and we act as though we are not the decision makers of this land, in these states, with all this life blindly running the streets with no more direction at all.

 

I bet there are people that wish I would stop reminding us all the time about this history, but I fully refuse because I am sure of the way of life I choose. If you cannot choose it will be your own choice, but I do and refuse any and all who do not, I believe in a Republic way of life to mean Republics in every community participating in their own support and sustainable practices free of any government control. Supported by the Declaration of Independence and emphasized by the Constitution to be free from any of these obstructions, of these pathetic scholars pretending they know a thing, pretending to be the rule over me which it is them that has decided this act now isn’t it?

 

The only thing I feel today is alone, I feel alone about choosing this way of life. I don’t see anyone participating, I don’t see anyone adding ideas in support, I don’t see anyone deciding to rise up based upon what they know is true and the correct direction. I feel alone because so many pretend but never gather based upon our simple basics that created this country in its infancy. I feel alone because I am the only one consistent and I will not veer. I feel alone because the Government Rule is encroaching upon me and restricting what I may do. I feel alone because for some reason people think it is the Constitution that made this country when in fact is was the very life I described. The idea creators, the decision makers uniting in a common direction that allowed them to sustain as life and this way and away from Rule and their way.

 

No I cannot create it alone nor will I pretend to, but I will know when they take my life because I fought so bravely against them that I was entirely honest with myself while the rest lost sight of the way that was chosen in the very first place. Thank you Thomas Jefferson for having the guts to state it so clearly, now if only others had eyes to see it, ideas to grow it and decisions to see it becomes reality.

 

I see it but I am all alone with only the documents without the support of the life it was intended for.

 

RemembertheAlamo
RemembertheAlamo

 @WilliamSchooler

 Their are other US Citizens of Generations: you are not alone...just enter the US Constitution and see those who stand up to the EVIL vs One Nation Under GOD daily: Judicial Watch, Kris Kobach, Tea Party, Andrew Breitbart; Judge Napoitano(no relatives to fat butt dyke former Gov but now inbreed Traitor of Hoemland Insecurity where devout Muslims search for what we enter on-line...GOD BLESS their pea-picking black hearts: they will get what they put out...

  Seriously, you feel the presence of EVIL--you see it on TV, you hear the disgusting lies...and liars sitting as political lifers aka homosapien parasites: be thankful you have none of their unconscionable existence...HELL is eternal and they have chosen their Destiny.

  You will not be there with them: make certain you enjoy what you know GOD created...save your health...

WilliamSchooler
WilliamSchooler

@RemembertheAlamo

Thanks, yes there is evil but evil is not god, or gods and so none possess any more capability than I. I recognize there are others on my side but some not as passionate. I am far from clueless and because of all the energy I have received because of what I have located  becomes my strength and I say I am alone with this much strength because so many look at this as bigger than them. I am willing to take on the evil since I know they hold no secret powers at all.

 

Since nothing takes with out choice those choosing evil acts make poor choices and I have trained myself to make far better choices and for this reason I am alone. How many of you have trained yourselves to confront the evil decision makers? Thats what I thought. This is why I am going to start training classes to help others realize themselves as capable.

 

Bob Greenslade
Bob Greenslade

As you stated, the Constitution was adopted for and between a Union of States. It was not adopted for a nation of individuals, as comprising a single nation. Thus, the Constitution would not be a model for a consolidated national government like the ones she mentioned.

 

That being said, I seriously doubt that fact had any bearing on her comments because progressives have been working for a 100 years to transform the document from a federal constitution into a national constitution.

 

They attempt to attack the Constitution with straw man arguments. Their attacks are akin to claiming cars are defective because you cannot drive them under water.

 

 

Joanepfme
Joanepfme

 @Bob Greenslade Could you please explain the difference between a federal constitution and a national constititution? I'm old in age, but young in the constitution. Thanks, Joan

etnpatriot
etnpatriot like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @Joanepfme Nation: a large group of people organized under a single independent government. Federal: a group of independent states that have given certain powers to a centralized government while retaining certain powers for themselves. ie: Tenth Amendment

Roberto Benitez
Roberto Benitez like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @etnpatriot Thanks for giving an excellent differentiation between the two. A great way of putting it is instead of the United States of America would be to say the States United of America. Perhaps the problem is that many forget the meaning a federation.

 

But soon it will be the USSA, the United Socialist States of America or perhaps the USCA, the Untied Socialist Caliphate of America.

SamuelCavazos2
SamuelCavazos2

@RonPaul_2012 You'd do better with Democrats, doc. The GOP are all farblonjet. Rick Santorum pledges allegiance to the Pope and Church.

robinroberson
robinroberson

@RonPaul_2012 this isnt even funny. This is treason. She thinks she's all cool & trendy, but she should be tried for treason and guillotined

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