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		<title>By: Liberty, Have we Forgotten? &#171; Secession and Nullification â€” News &#38; Information</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty, Have we Forgotten? &#171; Secession and Nullification â€” News &#38; Information</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 20:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] article by Bernie LaForest on TenthAmendmentCenter.com. &#8230;Â We have been sinking under our own weight and ignoring events as our liberties have been [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Tom EE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom EE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 12:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is really destroying this country, is apathy!  Much of the blame for this is the news media, including the conservative leaning Fox news.  There are a few who talk about, Glen Beck most notably, is branded a wacko by the rank-and-file news.   
 
I&#039;m not sure whether I&#039;m more afraid of the apathy, or what future might hold....  Are we headed for a &quot;1984&quot; society?   
 
Who are the &quot;home grown terrorists&quot; that our &quot;beloved&quot; Department of Homeland Security talks about?  Are they radical Muslims, or are they Americans who see a hopelessly broken tyrannical federal government? 
 
Will the Federal government  come down hard on the states like Utah, Montana &amp; Arizona, or will other many other states join in this peaceful revolution?  Unless many other states join this fight, I really don&#039;t see this ending well for our great country....  I really don&#039;t! 
 
I also have begun to fear making posts like this...  Are Big Brother, Or Big Sis watching?  Will I hear a knock on my door sometimes soon?? 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is really destroying this country, is apathy!  Much of the blame for this is the news media, including the conservative leaning Fox news.  There are a few who talk about, Glen Beck most notably, is branded a wacko by the rank-and-file news.   </p>
<p>I&#039;m not sure whether I&#039;m more afraid of the apathy, or what future might hold&#8230;.  Are we headed for a &quot;1984&quot; society?   </p>
<p>Who are the &quot;home grown terrorists&quot; that our &quot;beloved&quot; Department of Homeland Security talks about?  Are they radical Muslims, or are they Americans who see a hopelessly broken tyrannical federal government? </p>
<p>Will the Federal government  come down hard on the states like Utah, Montana &amp; Arizona, or will other many other states join in this peaceful revolution?  Unless many other states join this fight, I really don&#039;t see this ending well for our great country&#8230;.  I really don&#039;t! </p>
<p>I also have begun to fear making posts like this&#8230;  Are Big Brother, Or Big Sis watching?  Will I hear a knock on my door sometimes soon?? </p>
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		<title>By: Liberty, Have We Forgotten? &#171; Top Cats Roar&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty, Have We Forgotten? &#171; Top Cats Roar&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 09:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Sabrina Lodrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina Lodrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 01:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David, as a history and government teacher, my nothing pains me more than the intelligence, foresight, and genius of our Founders being underestimated. The men who forged this nation were among the greatest minds of antiquity. 
 
Thomas Jefferson stated, &quot;I hope we shall take warning from the example of England and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our Government to trial, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.&quot;  
 
He also said, &quot;This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.&quot; 
 
While I cannot say with certainty that our Founding Fathers could or could not envision &quot;giant corporations&quot; achieving &quot;personhood,&quot; I can say for certain that what we are seeing now is not new to the world. It is simply mutated. The early monopolies and monarchs with special holdings in companies, cutting special deals and taxing the people for their own end, was very real to them.  
 
Our folly was that we did not heed the words of Jefferson more dearly. &quot;The way to have safe government is not to trust it all to the one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to everyone exactly the functions in which he is competent....To let the National Government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and its foreign and federal relations.....  The State Governments with the Civil Rights, Laws, Police and administration of what concerns the State generally. The Counties with the local concerns, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these Republics from the great national one down through all its subordinations until it ends in the administration of everyman&#039;s farm by himself, by placing under everyone what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best.&quot; 
 
In my humble, personal opinion, I believe the Founding Fathers had a very clear vision of what corruption lay ahead. Madison wrote to a colleague about his dream of America being a Republic of 300 million freemen. They new how vast this continent was, and they knew that what they created was unique and would be targeted for destruction. 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, as a history and government teacher, my nothing pains me more than the intelligence, foresight, and genius of our Founders being underestimated. The men who forged this nation were among the greatest minds of antiquity. </p>
<p>Thomas Jefferson stated, &quot;I hope we shall take warning from the example of England and crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations which dare already to challenge our Government to trial, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.&quot;  </p>
<p>He also said, &quot;This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering&#8230; And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression.&quot; </p>
<p>While I cannot say with certainty that our Founding Fathers could or could not envision &quot;giant corporations&quot; achieving &quot;personhood,&quot; I can say for certain that what we are seeing now is not new to the world. It is simply mutated. The early monopolies and monarchs with special holdings in companies, cutting special deals and taxing the people for their own end, was very real to them.  </p>
<p>Our folly was that we did not heed the words of Jefferson more dearly. &quot;The way to have safe government is not to trust it all to the one, but to divide it among the many, distributing to everyone exactly the functions in which he is competent&#8230;.To let the National Government be entrusted with the defense of the nation, and its foreign and federal relations&#8230;..  The State Governments with the Civil Rights, Laws, Police and administration of what concerns the State generally. The Counties with the local concerns, and each ward direct the interests within itself. It is by dividing and subdividing these Republics from the great national one down through all its subordinations until it ends in the administration of everyman&#039;s farm by himself, by placing under everyone what his own eye may superintend, that all will be done for the best.&quot; </p>
<p>In my humble, personal opinion, I believe the Founding Fathers had a very clear vision of what corruption lay ahead. Madison wrote to a colleague about his dream of America being a Republic of 300 million freemen. They new how vast this continent was, and they knew that what they created was unique and would be targeted for destruction. </p>
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		<title>By: Len</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree that corporations should not be granted personhood, but that certainly does not mean the answer is giving unions a positive right to be the only party negotiating with employers. It&#039;s also ridiculous to absolve those (unions) who have likewise contributed the mess by distorting the market with monopolies. Perhaps if these teachers had been doing there job and teaching students about true constitutionality, true federalism, what rights really are, as opposed to government granted privileges, how the federal reserve puts more power in the hands of corporations through the private control of fiat money, why the free market/competition is necessary (real economics), etc., etc. we wouldn&#039;t have this mess.  
 
 
So absolve union teachers? Absurd. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that corporations should not be granted personhood, but that certainly does not mean the answer is giving unions a positive right to be the only party negotiating with employers. It&#039;s also ridiculous to absolve those (unions) who have likewise contributed the mess by distorting the market with monopolies. Perhaps if these teachers had been doing there job and teaching students about true constitutionality, true federalism, what rights really are, as opposed to government granted privileges, how the federal reserve puts more power in the hands of corporations through the private control of fiat money, why the free market/competition is necessary (real economics), etc., etc. we wouldn&#039;t have this mess.  </p>
<p>So absolve union teachers? Absurd. </p>
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		<title>By: David Weihnacht</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Weihnacht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Times change! I doubt the framers of the constitution envisioned giant corporations would achieve personhood, and through their deep pockets be allowed to impact every aspect of our lives. We the &quot;real&quot; people need to keep a balance and the federal government for better or worse is our instrument. The current financial mess was caused by corporate and personal greed, which exacerbated the massive government debt on all levels, federal, state, and local. So teachers and government employees are being asked to pay for the mess? Ridiculous!  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Times change! I doubt the framers of the constitution envisioned giant corporations would achieve personhood, and through their deep pockets be allowed to impact every aspect of our lives. We the &quot;real&quot; people need to keep a balance and the federal government for better or worse is our instrument. The current financial mess was caused by corporate and personal greed, which exacerbated the massive government debt on all levels, federal, state, and local. So teachers and government employees are being asked to pay for the mess? Ridiculous!  </p>
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		<title>By: Sabrina Lodrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabrina Lodrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 21:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Mr. LaForest. Your words are inspirational, and echo my own sentiments. Our Founding Fathers did not delegate to Congress the power to restrict any part of our lives. The powers of Congress and the federal government are limited and enumerated for a reason.  
 
It is good to know that I am not alone in my distaste for the usurpation of power that has occurred over the past 100 years. We are NOT a democracy. We are a Republic, and in being such, the federal government has no power over our personal choices and our unalienable rights. While I understand that many in government believe their actions are serving the better good, I must respectfully point out to them that what they believe to be good is of no relevance. Our Constitution grants each and every American the right to self-governance, and not only protection from the tyrannic desires of the &quot;few,&quot; but also the forced oppression of the &quot;majority.&quot; 
 
I stand with anyone who stands for true liberty. It is time to reclaim our lives as our own. It is time to take responsibility for our actions, and tell the &quot;powers that be&quot; to leave us to our own success or demise.  
 
Sincerely, 
 
Sabrina Lodrick 
Utah ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr. LaForest. Your words are inspirational, and echo my own sentiments. Our Founding Fathers did not delegate to Congress the power to restrict any part of our lives. The powers of Congress and the federal government are limited and enumerated for a reason.  </p>
<p>It is good to know that I am not alone in my distaste for the usurpation of power that has occurred over the past 100 years. We are NOT a democracy. We are a Republic, and in being such, the federal government has no power over our personal choices and our unalienable rights. While I understand that many in government believe their actions are serving the better good, I must respectfully point out to them that what they believe to be good is of no relevance. Our Constitution grants each and every American the right to self-governance, and not only protection from the tyrannic desires of the &quot;few,&quot; but also the forced oppression of the &quot;majority.&quot; </p>
<p>I stand with anyone who stands for true liberty. It is time to reclaim our lives as our own. It is time to take responsibility for our actions, and tell the &quot;powers that be&quot; to leave us to our own success or demise.  </p>
<p>Sincerely, </p>
<p>Sabrina Lodrick<br />
Utah </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Maharrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Maharrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 20:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nicely said! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely said! </p>
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