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		<title>By: Repeal is Not Enough&#160;&#124;&#160;Tenth Amendment Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repeal is Not Enough&#160;&#124;&#160;Tenth Amendment Center</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Repeal is Not Enough&#160;&#124;&#160;Pennsylvania Tenth Amendment Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>Repeal is Not Enough&#160;&#124;&#160;Pennsylvania Tenth Amendment Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 02:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beware Of a Constitutional Convention &#124; DailySok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beware Of a Constitutional Convention &#124; DailySok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Susan Parker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are many excellent points that can be added to what I have said previously about the dangers of having a Constitutional Convention.   Being that the CONGRESS would be the one to call a Constitutional Convention, it would be like having a professional criminal to be the security guard at a bank!   We have all just witnessed how  this congress conducted itself in jamming Obamacare down our throats!  No,  it would be absolutely insane to hire Pelosi and Company to rewrite the Constitution, or select delegates to a convention.   
 
I mentioned previously that there are those who  ignore the Constitution because they do not like the one we have now.  They want to scrap the whole thing and write one that is more to their liking, similar to the soviet constitution, where they can dictate to us what restrictions we are to accept.  NO THANKS!   
 
I smell a rat when those who know better recommend that  two thirds of the state legislatures apply for a Constitutional Convention to &quot;fix&quot; the Constitution, instead of recommending the Amendment Process for  adjustments that can be made without putting the entire Constitution at risk.  Let&#039;s not give permission to a corrupt congress to tamper with this document! 
 
Sure, the Constitution is not perfect.  We all know that.  It was written by human beings just like we are, but it is the best we&#039;ve got and we better hold on to it for dear life!   We were very lucky,  in 1787, to get the Constitution we have.  It is an instruction manual to follow in order for us to protect ourselves from  tyranny.  If we know what the Constitution says, we will recognize what the federal government is doing wrong.  When we are armed with the facts, we can then take the necessary steps to correct the situation we find ourselves in.   
 
After Benjamin Franklin came out of the Constitutional Convention in 1787, he was approached by a woman who asked him, &quot;Sir, What have you given us?&quot;  He answered, &quot;A Republic Ma&#039;am, ........if you can keep it!&quot;  Let&#039;s reacquaint ourselves with this document and the Founders writings, so we can keep our Republic! 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are many excellent points that can be added to what I have said previously about the dangers of having a Constitutional Convention.   Being that the CONGRESS would be the one to call a Constitutional Convention, it would be like having a professional criminal to be the security guard at a bank!   We have all just witnessed how  this congress conducted itself in jamming Obamacare down our throats!  No,  it would be absolutely insane to hire Pelosi and Company to rewrite the Constitution, or select delegates to a convention.   </p>
<p>I mentioned previously that there are those who  ignore the Constitution because they do not like the one we have now.  They want to scrap the whole thing and write one that is more to their liking, similar to the soviet constitution, where they can dictate to us what restrictions we are to accept.  NO THANKS!   </p>
<p>I smell a rat when those who know better recommend that  two thirds of the state legislatures apply for a Constitutional Convention to &quot;fix&quot; the Constitution, instead of recommending the Amendment Process for  adjustments that can be made without putting the entire Constitution at risk.  Let&#039;s not give permission to a corrupt congress to tamper with this document! </p>
<p>Sure, the Constitution is not perfect.  We all know that.  It was written by human beings just like we are, but it is the best we&#039;ve got and we better hold on to it for dear life!   We were very lucky,  in 1787, to get the Constitution we have.  It is an instruction manual to follow in order for us to protect ourselves from  tyranny.  If we know what the Constitution says, we will recognize what the federal government is doing wrong.  When we are armed with the facts, we can then take the necessary steps to correct the situation we find ourselves in.   </p>
<p>After Benjamin Franklin came out of the Constitutional Convention in 1787, he was approached by a woman who asked him, &quot;Sir, What have you given us?&quot;  He answered, &quot;A Republic Ma&#039;am, &#8230;&#8230;..if you can keep it!&quot;  Let&#039;s reacquaint ourselves with this document and the Founders writings, so we can keep our Republic! </p>
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		<title>By: James Hancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People should really read the constitution and all of the works behind it. First there were two camps and they each got parts in. The second has won and designed.  
 
Second, the framers did not have a coherent value system, thus the constitution is flawed as a result. It is not our savior. It is a good start to a proper constitution based on real human freedom, but as it is written now, it protects such limited freedoms to be comical when people claim that such and such is against the constitution. 
 
And no, the 10th amendment doesn&#039;t protect us. Even if you could claim that something isn&#039;t under interstate commerce or that the current definition of &quot;regulate&quot; isn&#039;t what they meant, they would just use the welfare clause as their argument and then anything goes despite the 10th, because the 10th doesn&#039;t repeal the welfare clause. 
 
And even if you could get them to strictly ad hear to the 9th and 10th amendment, then you have the states, and even the local governments that are more than happy to put a gun to the backs of their neighbors head to pay for whatever they think is a good idea. 
 
This is only solved if we recognize the true meaning of freedom :You are free to do ANYTHING you want, NO MATTER WHAT, so long as you don&#039;t DIRECTLY PHYSICALLY HARM ANOTHER.  This is a value in and of itself. Freedom isn&#039;t a side effect or a good thing when possible, it&#039;s an absolute. You do not live in a free society unless your right to do whatever you want as per above is upheld.   
 
Further, if the product of your labor, both mentally and physically is not, without exception, your property for you to do as you see fit, then you are not free. Even if it&#039;s the government taking the money, you&#039;re still having your freedom stolen from you by the government. ALL trade MUST be voluntary without limitation including with the government. 
 
Only when the constitution is amended to contain these protections will we truly be free, and will we truly be protected from our government. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People should really read the constitution and all of the works behind it. First there were two camps and they each got parts in. The second has won and designed.  </p>
<p>Second, the framers did not have a coherent value system, thus the constitution is flawed as a result. It is not our savior. It is a good start to a proper constitution based on real human freedom, but as it is written now, it protects such limited freedoms to be comical when people claim that such and such is against the constitution. </p>
<p>And no, the 10th amendment doesn&#039;t protect us. Even if you could claim that something isn&#039;t under interstate commerce or that the current definition of &quot;regulate&quot; isn&#039;t what they meant, they would just use the welfare clause as their argument and then anything goes despite the 10th, because the 10th doesn&#039;t repeal the welfare clause. </p>
<p>And even if you could get them to strictly ad hear to the 9th and 10th amendment, then you have the states, and even the local governments that are more than happy to put a gun to the backs of their neighbors head to pay for whatever they think is a good idea. </p>
<p>This is only solved if we recognize the true meaning of freedom :You are free to do ANYTHING you want, NO MATTER WHAT, so long as you don&#039;t DIRECTLY PHYSICALLY HARM ANOTHER.  This is a value in and of itself. Freedom isn&#039;t a side effect or a good thing when possible, it&#039;s an absolute. You do not live in a free society unless your right to do whatever you want as per above is upheld.   </p>
<p>Further, if the product of your labor, both mentally and physically is not, without exception, your property for you to do as you see fit, then you are not free. Even if it&#039;s the government taking the money, you&#039;re still having your freedom stolen from you by the government. ALL trade MUST be voluntary without limitation including with the government. </p>
<p>Only when the constitution is amended to contain these protections will we truly be free, and will we truly be protected from our government. </p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/03/22/had-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-311703</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 07:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Susan is exactly correct! 
 
Break it down: 
 
DIAGRAM OF THE CON-CON CALL:     
 
Step 1: On the application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States - to call a Convention 
 
Step 2: The Congress...shall call a convention.  There is no legal precedent that specifies when or where a convention is held, how delegates are selected, how they are compensated...etc.)  Consequently, there is no certainty as to who the delegates would be.  Congress is given a free hand to determine the method of selecting delegates.   
 
Step 3: for proposing Amendments.  No provision in Article V limits the Constitutional Convention with regard to the actual amendment(s) considered or proposed.   
 
Step 4: which&#8230;shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.  Congress chooses the mode of ratification &#8211; or as in the case of the first Constitutional Convention in 1787, the delegates could change the mode of ratification. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan is exactly correct! </p>
<p>Break it down: </p>
<p>DIAGRAM OF THE CON-CON CALL:     </p>
<p>Step 1: On the application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States &#8211; to call a Convention </p>
<p>Step 2: The Congress&#8230;shall call a convention.  There is no legal precedent that specifies when or where a convention is held, how delegates are selected, how they are compensated&#8230;etc.)  Consequently, there is no certainty as to who the delegates would be.  Congress is given a free hand to determine the method of selecting delegates.   </p>
<p>Step 3: for proposing Amendments.  No provision in Article V limits the Constitutional Convention with regard to the actual amendment(s) considered or proposed.   </p>
<p>Step 4: which&hellip;shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress.  Congress chooses the mode of ratification &ndash; or as in the case of the first Constitutional Convention in 1787, the delegates could change the mode of ratification. </p>
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		<title>By: MoT</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/03/22/had-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-311718</link>
		<dc:creator>MoT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t get it.  The Constitution is the bastard child of elites who pent themselves up and secretly voted into being a creature their own legislatures didn&#039;t authorize them to create and we&#039;re somehow &quot;bothered&quot; that the vile spawn following in their forebears footsteps are not adhering to it?   It is what it is because it was fundamentally and deliberately flawed from the beginning.  The only saving grace was the Bill of Rights.  And what&#039;s with all the calls for Congress to do the &quot;right thing&quot;.  Hahahahahah!  (wiping tears of anguish from my eyes)....  Seriously now.  There is a time to put away childish things, and crack pipes, because that&#039;s pure fantasy talking.  These bastards in DC know full damn well that all your squaking is but the mewling noises of peasants.  Oh, it all sounds so glorious and high minded to babble to our collective navels, but they operate in a moral vacuum immune to the fantasy ravings about a long dead document.   You want action?  The States need to cut themselves off from the diseased Federal body once and for all and start anew.  Forget resurrecting the corpse of what was or could have been because its long dead and gone. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t get it.  The Constitution is the bastard child of elites who pent themselves up and secretly voted into being a creature their own legislatures didn&#039;t authorize them to create and we&#039;re somehow &quot;bothered&quot; that the vile spawn following in their forebears footsteps are not adhering to it?   It is what it is because it was fundamentally and deliberately flawed from the beginning.  The only saving grace was the Bill of Rights.  And what&#039;s with all the calls for Congress to do the &quot;right thing&quot;.  Hahahahahah!  (wiping tears of anguish from my eyes)&#8230;.  Seriously now.  There is a time to put away childish things, and crack pipes, because that&#039;s pure fantasy talking.  These bastards in DC know full damn well that all your squaking is but the mewling noises of peasants.  Oh, it all sounds so glorious and high minded to babble to our collective navels, but they operate in a moral vacuum immune to the fantasy ravings about a long dead document.   You want action?  The States need to cut themselves off from the diseased Federal body once and for all and start anew.  Forget resurrecting the corpse of what was or could have been because its long dead and gone. </p>
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		<title>By: Militant Libertarian &#187; A Constitutional Convention? Surely, You Jest!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Militant Libertarian &#187; A Constitutional Convention? Surely, You Jest!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 01:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: A Constitutional Convention? Surely, You Jest! &#171; DumpDC</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Constitutional Convention? Surely, You Jest! &#171; DumpDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 06:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Susan Parker</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2010/03/22/had-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-311621</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Parker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding a Constitutional Convention mentioned in this article are some comments I am going to make about the subject.  Do we really want to give the power to write a new constitution to the very people who have been ignoring usurping, and trying to destroy the constitution that we have now?  These people do not like the U.S. Constitution, and that is precisely why they disregard it most of the time.   YES, the Founding fathers saw a possibility of a situation, where a need might arise for COMPLETELY SCRAPPING THE CONSTITUTION.  But, that is NOT was has happened today in our situation!  The only thing that happened is that there is now a CABAL OF WOULD BE TYRANTS,  who are getting tired of OCCASIONALLY having to adhere to the Constitution.  These WOULD BE TYRANTS would like to con enough ignorant people into letting them GET THEIR HANDS ON THE CONSTITUTION AND DESTROY IT, so they can usher in totalitarianism.  The act of calling for a Constitutional Convention WILL BE PRESENTED AS PERMISSION OF THE PEOPLE.  How cunning!   THIS IS NOT A THEORY ABOUT THEIR PLANS!   IT COMES FROM THEIR ACTUAL STATEMENTS - &quot;REFORMING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT: THE BICENTENNIAL PAPERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM (PAPERBACK ) - DONALD ROBINSON.  In this book, those who want to destroy the American Constitution train their followers.  This is must reading material, as we will discover just what their plans are so we can stop them in their tracks.  Those offering a Convention as the solution to fix the Constitution is, like having a burglar who broke into your home, and told you what a nice gun you have, and then asks you if you would please let him clean it for you.  For Heaven&#039;s sake do not fall for it!  Let&#039;s not  put the whole Constitution at risk for some amendments. Use the amendment process ONLY.  I can&#039;t say that strongly enough!  A car that needs to have the brakes fixed doesn&#039;t need to go to the junkyard.  It&#039;s like saying your house needs to be burned down in the name of pest control.   
 
Our problem had nothing to do WITH the Constitution.  Our problem has to do with IGNORING the Constitution.  Those ignoring the Constitution would like nothing better than to make their usurpation LEGAL, by throwing out the Constitution, at a Constitutional Convention.  It was ILLEGAL usurpation that has enabled an &quot;elite&quot; class to hijack our nation.  It is that &quot;elite&quot; class who wants to con unknowledgable people into destroying the Constitution.  The Constitution is the BEST document for the protection of freedom that has EVER been written.  All we have to do is stick to it.  And fix things by repealing certain amendments and nullification at the State level. 
 
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION &quot;TO RETURN POWER TO THE STATES!  However, there is only ONE kind of Constitutional Convention, and that is one that can be convened to WRITE AN ENTIRELY NEW CONSTITUTION.   
 
Let&#039;s look at our history.  The last time we had a Constitutional Convention was in 1787.  Let&#039;s see what occurred.  When the Convention was convened, all this legislative body originally intended was to make SMALL changes in the Articles of Confederation.  That is all.  Well, guess what happened!  They ended up breaking their own rules and voila!  The U.S. Constitution we have now was created!  We were extremely lucky THAT time, as those who were at the 1787 Constitutional Convention were leaders OF A FREEDOM MOVEMENT which had just DEFEATED A TYRANNY.  Their thinking was completely OPPOSITE from those who want a Convention now! We were lucky that time, but we won&#039;t be the next time! ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding a Constitutional Convention mentioned in this article are some comments I am going to make about the subject.  Do we really want to give the power to write a new constitution to the very people who have been ignoring usurping, and trying to destroy the constitution that we have now?  These people do not like the U.S. Constitution, and that is precisely why they disregard it most of the time.   YES, the Founding fathers saw a possibility of a situation, where a need might arise for COMPLETELY SCRAPPING THE CONSTITUTION.  But, that is NOT was has happened today in our situation!  The only thing that happened is that there is now a CABAL OF WOULD BE TYRANTS,  who are getting tired of OCCASIONALLY having to adhere to the Constitution.  These WOULD BE TYRANTS would like to con enough ignorant people into letting them GET THEIR HANDS ON THE CONSTITUTION AND DESTROY IT, so they can usher in totalitarianism.  The act of calling for a Constitutional Convention WILL BE PRESENTED AS PERMISSION OF THE PEOPLE.  How cunning!   THIS IS NOT A THEORY ABOUT THEIR PLANS!   IT COMES FROM THEIR ACTUAL STATEMENTS &#8211; &quot;REFORMING AMERICAN GOVERNMENT: THE BICENTENNIAL PAPERS OF THE COMMITTEE ON THE CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM (PAPERBACK ) &#8211; DONALD ROBINSON.  In this book, those who want to destroy the American Constitution train their followers.  This is must reading material, as we will discover just what their plans are so we can stop them in their tracks.  Those offering a Convention as the solution to fix the Constitution is, like having a burglar who broke into your home, and told you what a nice gun you have, and then asks you if you would please let him clean it for you.  For Heaven&#039;s sake do not fall for it!  Let&#039;s not  put the whole Constitution at risk for some amendments. Use the amendment process ONLY.  I can&#039;t say that strongly enough!  A car that needs to have the brakes fixed doesn&#039;t need to go to the junkyard.  It&#039;s like saying your house needs to be burned down in the name of pest control.   </p>
<p>Our problem had nothing to do WITH the Constitution.  Our problem has to do with IGNORING the Constitution.  Those ignoring the Constitution would like nothing better than to make their usurpation LEGAL, by throwing out the Constitution, at a Constitutional Convention.  It was ILLEGAL usurpation that has enabled an &quot;elite&quot; class to hijack our nation.  It is that &quot;elite&quot; class who wants to con unknowledgable people into destroying the Constitution.  The Constitution is the BEST document for the protection of freedom that has EVER been written.  All we have to do is stick to it.  And fix things by repealing certain amendments and nullification at the State level. </p>
<p>THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION &quot;TO RETURN POWER TO THE STATES!  However, there is only ONE kind of Constitutional Convention, and that is one that can be convened to WRITE AN ENTIRELY NEW CONSTITUTION.   </p>
<p>Let&#039;s look at our history.  The last time we had a Constitutional Convention was in 1787.  Let&#039;s see what occurred.  When the Convention was convened, all this legislative body originally intended was to make SMALL changes in the Articles of Confederation.  That is all.  Well, guess what happened!  They ended up breaking their own rules and voila!  The U.S. Constitution we have now was created!  We were extremely lucky THAT time, as those who were at the 1787 Constitutional Convention were leaders OF A FREEDOM MOVEMENT which had just DEFEATED A TYRANNY.  Their thinking was completely OPPOSITE from those who want a Convention now! We were lucky that time, but we won&#039;t be the next time! </p>
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