Kirk Wood: Nullification, A Constitutional History

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Walter Kirk Wood, professor of history at Alabama State University and expert on the principle of nullification, explains the history of nullification in the American Constitutional tradition, a federal system as a check on arbitrary, centralized power, Imperium in Imperio and the American colonies, the three prominent nullification movements in early American history, James Madison’s “report of 1800,” Madison as the father of nullification and his notes on the Constitutional Convention, the extended-republic of the anti-federalists, how nullification acts as a check on central power and is inherent in a federal system, how nullification was virtually lost for over a century, its return in recent history, America’s first freedom as freedom from government, and more.

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Nullification: A Constitutional History (vol 1)

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Virginia Resolution of 1798

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Current Nullification Efforts

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11 comments
Tim
Tim

I really think that there is going to have to be a wedge issue that either the left or the right cares deeply about in order for either side to fight for nullification. A good wedge issue for the conservatives is national health care and if we can successfully win at nullifying such a strong issue then nullification would be cemented permanantly into the legal system.

Monorprise
Monorprise

We got a lot of good wedge issues for conservative,
1: national health care
2: Gun laws.(big deal as we have already seen)
3: The Abortion issue(nuclear)

Unfortunately I'm not a liberal and never really understood what was important to them, so we do need a list of wedge issue for liberals to drive them on theses things.

Tim
Tim

Drugs would be good and so would the patriot act itself because why can't a state nullify any enforcement of the patriot act.

Monorprise
Monorprise

It could in many ways domestically, i remember reading an article about a north Carolina boy who was kidnapped by the Federal government in the middle of the night. Apparently with the assistance of the North Carolina police.
Here is a link to the news story: http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/

I think it would be a good practice to at least make sure local police and sheriffs always double check on the Federal warrants before allowing them to kidnap someone. This may cause a bit of a slow down, as well as a possible minor security leak if their reason for kidnapping someone is "secrete" but i think it may be important that we have more then 1 body check on theses things, particularly if the would be victim is a citizen of the state much less an american, such as clearly the case in this case. I'm not sure I would care if their a foreigner, as thats generally the federal department anyway. But still as a practice the feds should notify and check with the local and state official before removing them from the bounds of their state much less kidnapping them. Variety that their a foreigner, and if you like go further in varnishing their justification as being honest.
This is a responsibility that should be put on both State and local governments and directly on the county Sheriff.

Monorprise
Monorprise

Our main challenge will be getting every last one of our State Governess and legislators to learn of this and start using it again, We all clearly got political agendas we want done in our own states and each and everyone one of them will serve to weaken the federal government and restore our rights rether we personal happen to agree with that particular agenda in our state or not.

The key to victory education, our legislators and governors need to know about what is perhaps one of the signal most important aspects of their job.

Then it is simply a matter of bring up the key passionate issues which are unconstitutional. Gun rights, drug rights, abortion, health-care, ect..

Derek Sheriff
Derek Sheriff

According to Tom Woods, a few scholars have actually spent the better part of their academic careers trying to explain Madison's dithering. "..that's one way to spend your career, I guess."
:-D

MichaelBoldin
MichaelBoldin

Hard not to love Tom Woods!! I hadn't heard him on that one, though..

Matt Shannon
Matt Shannon

Hey Micheal I think Tom discusses that in his PIG to Am Hist. It's a good read along with his 33 questions.

Gutzman's work - Virginia's American Revolution: From Dominion to Republic, 1776-1840 is a great book that touches on many details rarely covered.

MichaelBoldin
MichaelBoldin

Great recommendations, Matt - thanks for the feedback!

Allan Tran
Allan Tran

Really interesting stuff, thanksfor doing this interview! I never heard of madison as a fip-flopper, I guess they have those in every generation.

MichaelBoldin
MichaelBoldin

I only learned of it more recently - and as the Professor mentioned briefly, this was covered quite well by Kevin Gutzman in his writings.

More importantly, it's essential to understand these principles and see how they apply in current times.

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