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		<title>By: BrianMcCandliss</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianMcCandliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 04:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Congress has no authority to delegate (further) the authority delegated to them in Article I of the Constitution.&quot;

 

As always, the term &quot;delelegate&quot; is often confused with SURRENDER-- just as with the People of the states delegating powers to the federal government, is taken as a permanent  surrender of those powers, as when the Jackson administration authorized the use of military force against the individual states, and the Lincoln Administration carried out such.

 

However in reality, &quot;delegation&quot; in the Constitution refers to authorizing a subordinate to carry out orderso-- not not giving away the power to an independent or superior body. For example, a manager may delegate authority to an employee, but it always subject to oversight by the manager or a superior.

 

Here, the federal government  SURRENDERED power to an independent body over which is not directly subordinate to any branch of government-- and did so through normal legislative process, and not by Constitutional Amndment.

 

This not only breaches separation of powers, but breaches the Constitution altogether by usurpation of clearly extra-constitutional authority, exercising congressional power without direct congressional oversight.

 

However once the federal government usurped the power to coerce the states through military invasion, it suppressed their power of sovereign recourse; and as Madison and Jefferson warned, this made the federal government into the supreme and final  judge ot its own powers-- since no other power could stand against it.

So essentially the die was cast under the Lincoln Administration; and the Federal Reserve was simply a matter of  time and tide-- as with all other federal abuses, i.e. since the states have no recourse against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Congress has no authority to delegate (further) the authority delegated to them in Article I of the Constitution.&#8221;</p>
<p>As always, the term &#8220;delelegate&#8221; is often confused with SURRENDER&#8211; just as with the People of the states delegating powers to the federal government, is taken as a permanent  surrender of those powers, as when the Jackson administration authorized the use of military force against the individual states, and the Lincoln Administration carried out such.</p>
<p>However in reality, &#8220;delegation&#8221; in the Constitution refers to authorizing a subordinate to carry out orderso&#8211; not not giving away the power to an independent or superior body. For example, a manager may delegate authority to an employee, but it always subject to oversight by the manager or a superior.</p>
<p>Here, the federal government  SURRENDERED power to an independent body over which is not directly subordinate to any branch of government&#8211; and did so through normal legislative process, and not by Constitutional Amndment.</p>
<p>This not only breaches separation of powers, but breaches the Constitution altogether by usurpation of clearly extra-constitutional authority, exercising congressional power without direct congressional oversight.</p>
<p>However once the federal government usurped the power to coerce the states through military invasion, it suppressed their power of sovereign recourse; and as Madison and Jefferson warned, this made the federal government into the supreme and final  judge ot its own powers&#8211; since no other power could stand against it.</p>
<p>So essentially the die was cast under the Lincoln Administration; and the Federal Reserve was simply a matter of  time and tide&#8211; as with all other federal abuses, i.e. since the states have no recourse against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Occupy Wall Street - Page 370 - Grasscity.com Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occupy Wall Street - Page 370 - Grasscity.com Forums</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: The US is a good example of how well multiculturalism and immigration works - Page 5 - Stormfront</title>
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		<dc:creator>The US is a good example of how well multiculturalism and immigration works - Page 5 - Stormfront</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] of having the dollar as the world reserve currency being controlled by a private and arguably unconstitutional entity, e.g. The Federal Reserve.   Be that as it may, do you really expect anything better of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: olde reb</title>
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		<dc:creator>olde reb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The national economy, since 1913, is based upon a Ponzi scheme. 
 
Every &#8220;dollar&#8221; in circulation is created based upon debt.  Congress gives T-securities (bills, bonds, or notes) to the Federal Reserve, and the Fed credits the Treasury&#8217;s account with the value of the securities. Voila !!! New fiat money.  Congress can spend up to the limit of the account and the Fed will honor the checks. 
 
The problem is that the arrangement obligates the US to pay interest on the principal thus generated.  The interest has never been generated.  It does not exist. It is impossible to culminate the agreement. The only way the interest can be paid is to generate more principal and pay the interest on the initial securities from the principal on the later securities. It is the classic Ponzi, par excellence.  
 
Mathematical details on the rip-off by the Fed, including how the Fed obtains the ENTIRE VALUE of ALL issued securities (off of the accounting records) is posted at    &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/43482648/rip-off-by-the-FR&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scribd.com/doc/43482648/rip-off-by-the...&lt;/a&gt;  
and  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scribd.com/doc/43465593/QE2-Rational-Course-of-Action&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.scribd.com/doc/43465593/QE2-Rational-C...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The national economy, since 1913, is based upon a Ponzi scheme. </p>
<p>Every &ldquo;dollar&rdquo; in circulation is created based upon debt.  Congress gives T-securities (bills, bonds, or notes) to the Federal Reserve, and the Fed credits the Treasury&rsquo;s account with the value of the securities. Voila !!! New fiat money.  Congress can spend up to the limit of the account and the Fed will honor the checks. </p>
<p>The problem is that the arrangement obligates the US to pay interest on the principal thus generated.  The interest has never been generated.  It does not exist. It is impossible to culminate the agreement. The only way the interest can be paid is to generate more principal and pay the interest on the initial securities from the principal on the later securities. It is the classic Ponzi, par excellence.  </p>
<p>Mathematical details on the rip-off by the Fed, including how the Fed obtains the ENTIRE VALUE of ALL issued securities (off of the accounting records) is posted at    <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/43482648/rip-off-by-the-FR" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/43482648/rip-off-by-the&#8230;</a><br />
and  <a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/43465593/QE2-Rational-Course-of-Action" rel="nofollow">http://www.scribd.com/doc/43465593/QE2-Rational-C&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 23:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is due to we the people not standing up for our rights, not lack of religious leaders.  Power...by its very nature...will always attract the most evil.  It&#039;s up to us to limit that power to limit the damages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is due to we the people not standing up for our rights, not lack of religious leaders.  Power&#8230;by its very nature&#8230;will always attract the most evil.  It&#8217;s up to us to limit that power to limit the damages</p>
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		<title>By: No God? GOOD!</title>
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		<dc:creator>No God? GOOD!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t say that not believing in God is the cause of all this. What we need is a government with rational leaders, not religious ones. So far, religion has been a device used to manipulate the people, wage war, and spread discrimination. A &#039;God&#039;-less country would be the better decision. We don&#039;t need &#039;God&#039; as a reason for our better morals. What people need to do is WAKE UP and realize that everything we do, say, and watch is being controlled, only to ensure that the end result is manipulation. As human beings, we have to realize what our people need, and fight for the right given to us at birth: TO LIVE FREE! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#039;t say that not believing in God is the cause of all this. What we need is a government with rational leaders, not religious ones. So far, religion has been a device used to manipulate the people, wage war, and spread discrimination. A &#039;God&#039;-less country would be the better decision. We don&#039;t need &#039;God&#039; as a reason for our better morals. What people need to do is WAKE UP and realize that everything we do, say, and watch is being controlled, only to ensure that the end result is manipulation. As human beings, we have to realize what our people need, and fight for the right given to us at birth: TO LIVE FREE!</p>
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		<title>By: CrossFit 1776 &#124; CrossFit in Williamsburg, VA &#124; Williamsburg Strength and Conditioning &#124; Speed, Strength and Agility Training for Football, Wrestling and Mixed Martial Arts in Williamsburg &#187; You vs the Sandbag, Fructose vs. Glucose and The Federal Re</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrossFit 1776 &#124; CrossFit in Williamsburg, VA &#124; Williamsburg Strength and Conditioning &#124; Speed, Strength and Agility Training for Football, Wrestling and Mixed Martial Arts in Williamsburg &#187; You vs the Sandbag, Fructose vs. Glucose and The Federal Re</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 01:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B. Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>B. Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that when Federal Reserve v the Constitution issues were raised that people would reference the following excerpt from Jefferson&#039;s writings.  Although people can read into 1913 anything that they want to, Jefferson had reminded George Washington that the Founding states had REJECTED the idea of giving banking powers to the federal government.

&quot;It is known that the very power now proposed as a means was rejected as an end by the Convention which formed the Constitution. A proposition was made to them to authorize Congress to open canals, and an amendatory one to empower them to incorporate. But the whole was rejected, and one of the reasons for rejection urged in debate was, that then they would have a power to erect a bank, which would render the great cities, where there were prejudices and jealousies on the subject, adverse to the reception of the Constitution.&quot; --Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson&#039;s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791 http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp

So with all due respect to Ron Paul, the following statement really has no meaning, IMO.

&quot;Congress, although not by law, essentially has given up all its oversight responsibility over the Federal Reserve.&quot;

After all, how do you make laws regulating anything without some kind of oversight responsibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that when Federal Reserve v the Constitution issues were raised that people would reference the following excerpt from Jefferson&#8217;s writings.  Although people can read into 1913 anything that they want to, Jefferson had reminded George Washington that the Founding states had REJECTED the idea of giving banking powers to the federal government.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is known that the very power now proposed as a means was rejected as an end by the Convention which formed the Constitution. A proposition was made to them to authorize Congress to open canals, and an amendatory one to empower them to incorporate. But the whole was rejected, and one of the reasons for rejection urged in debate was, that then they would have a power to erect a bank, which would render the great cities, where there were prejudices and jealousies on the subject, adverse to the reception of the Constitution.&#8221; &#8211;Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson&#8217;s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank : 1791 <a href="http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp" rel="nofollow">http://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bank-tj.asp</a></p>
<p>So with all due respect to Ron Paul, the following statement really has no meaning, IMO.</p>
<p>&#8220;Congress, although not by law, essentially has given up all its oversight responsibility over the Federal Reserve.&#8221;</p>
<p>After all, how do you make laws regulating anything without some kind of oversight responsibility?</p>
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		<title>By: CrossFit 1776 - Determination, Dedication &#38; Discipline &#187; September 27 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrossFit 1776 - Determination, Dedication &#38; Discipline &#187; September 27 2009</dc:creator>
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