Comments on: Decentralization for Freedom http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/ Concordia res Parvae Crescunt Wed, 23 May 2012 21:26:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: A Whiff of Secession and Nullification - WesternFront America : WesternFront America http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-860138 A Whiff of Secession and Nullification - WesternFront America : WesternFront America Sun, 16 Oct 2011 16:36:00 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-860138 [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number of [...] [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number of [...]

]]> By: A Whiff of Secession and Nullification – Texas Tenth Amendment Center http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-625384 A Whiff of Secession and Nullification – Texas Tenth Amendment Center Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:18:52 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-625384 [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number [...] [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number [...]

]]> By: John Zube http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-619481 John Zube Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:05:15 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-619481 The right and liberty to secede and to decentralize should be extended to all individuals and minorities which desire it for themselves, all their volunteers, not only against federal but also against State and local governments, comprehensively, against all territorial governments. The secessionists should thereby gain personal law righs and liberties or full exterritorial autonomy, as far as all their own affairs are concerned. See e.g. <a href="http://www.panarchy.org" rel="nofollow">www.panarchy.org</a> & <a href="http://www.panarchism.info" rel="nofollow">www.panarchism.info</a> on <a href="http://www.butterbach.net" rel="nofollow">www.butterbach.net</a> The right and liberty to secede and to decentralize should be extended to all individuals and minorities which desire it for themselves, all their volunteers, not only against federal but also against State and local governments, comprehensively, against all territorial governments. The secessionists should thereby gain personal law righs and liberties or full exterritorial autonomy, as far as all their own affairs are concerned. See e.g. http://www.panarchy.org & http://www.panarchism.info on http://www.butterbach.net

]]> By: Caruba: A Whiff of Secession and Nullification | The Federal Observer http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-619141 Caruba: A Whiff of Secession and Nullification | The Federal Observer Wed, 15 Jun 2011 04:12:15 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-619141 [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”,  by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing [...] [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”,  by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing [...]

]]> By: An Early Start on Secession « LewRockwell.com Blog http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-617444 An Early Start on Secession « LewRockwell.com Blog Tue, 14 Jun 2011 10:03:40 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-617444 [...] both sides. I hated the state even in the womb. See the heroic secessionist Donald Livingston on "Decentralizing for Freedom" on the Tenth Amendment Center website. Writes Livingston: To all of this it is often said that [...] [...] both sides. I hated the state even in the womb. See the heroic secessionist Donald Livingston on "Decentralizing for Freedom" on the Tenth Amendment Center website. Writes Livingston: To all of this it is often said that [...]

]]> By: Karen De Coster » An Early Start on Secession http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-616716 Karen De Coster » An Early Start on Secession Tue, 14 Jun 2011 02:06:44 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-616716 [...] sides. I hated the state even in the womb. See the heroic secessionist Donald Livingston on “Decentralizing for Freedom” on the Tenth Amendment Center website. Writes Livingston: To all of this it is often said [...] [...] sides. I hated the state even in the womb. See the heroic secessionist Donald Livingston on “Decentralizing for Freedom” on the Tenth Amendment Center website. Writes Livingston: To all of this it is often said [...]

]]> By: A Whiff of Secession and Nullification « PA Pundits – International http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-604740 A Whiff of Secession and Nullification « PA Pundits – International Wed, 08 Jun 2011 10:06:42 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-604740 [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number of [...] [...] an article, “Decentralization for Freedom”, by Prof. Livingston, he raises some issues that are increasingly troubling to a growing number of [...]

]]> By: Non-Standard Politics » Blog Archive » The American Ideal vs A New, National Third Party http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-349488 Non-Standard Politics » Blog Archive » The American Ideal vs A New, National Third Party Mon, 04 Oct 2010 06:36:43 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-349488 [...] assert the sovereignty of their citizens and of the state and actively resist Federal tyranny via Nullification and Interposition and even economic secession (which will be the topic of a future post). There are many gutsy [...] [...] assert the sovereignty of their citizens and of the state and actively resist Federal tyranny via Nullification and Interposition and even economic secession (which will be the topic of a future post). There are many gutsy [...]

]]> By: Icky Biker http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-282727 Icky Biker Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:00:30 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-282727 To All: I just ran across this great article by Brion McClanahan on LRC. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mcclanahan5.1.1.html Very interesting concept on how to make a stronger push for 10th amendment rights. Nothing will be painless, but this could get it over with soon. After reading this article, you might agree that we should personally thank all who voted for Obama! This might be the philosophical equivalent of ripping the band-aid off quick, as opposed to pulling it off slow. Dave To All:

I just ran across this great article by Brion McClanahan on LRC. http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig10/mcclanahan5.1.1.html

Very interesting concept on how to make a stronger push for 10th amendment rights. Nothing will be painless, but this could get it over with soon.

After reading this article, you might agree that we should personally thank all who voted for Obama!

This might be the philosophical equivalent of ripping the band-aid off quick, as opposed to pulling it off slow.

Dave

]]> By: Old Jim http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/08/27/decentralization-for-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-282411 Old Jim Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:06:57 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=2910#comment-282411 Jim Lorenz’s posting said to “Best find a way to ENFORCE the 10th today” and linked to a video entitled “Swine Flu, Martial law, and RFID Bracelets. Oh my!”. I initially wondered why he would bring this to the Decentralization for Freedom constitutional forum but after viewing it and some of the associated videos, it became clear that a huge insidious mistrust of big government is emerging from within the general population. If this type of governmental problem continues to grow, our state governments may indeed be the only recourse for citizens seeking trusted answers and direction. A new and interesting twist for the 10th amendment. The TV Series “The X-Files” posed a somewhat similar situation where FBI agent Mulder, not knowing who to trust, seeks the truth on his own with the help of his associates. When there is social distrust, conspiracy theories can abound and even the best-intentioned plans can appear most evil. Our Constitution by definition demands our leaders to be of impeccable character and of the highest morality. If this is lost or betrayed, either real or imagined, mistrust ensues and government congruence with the people becomes fractured just as we are seeing today. The video also indicated that Oklahoma had passed a law requiring all of its citizens to be vaccinated. I checked and could not find where this had been done. Oklahoma has been a strong supporter of the 10th Amendment so I find it a bit disturbing that an action resulting in certain death for some citizens (the vaccine itself will be responsible for a few deaths) would be undertaken by their legislators on a non-emergency basis. Check here: http://www.ok.gov/health/index.html Our system may take some time to right itself, but I have faith that it will because the next group to run for office will know that this is a problem and bring the solution to the people. Until then, those seeking truth and direction about the vaccines will have to use their own logic and follow their gut feelings but only after talking with real Doctors and state representatives about all these concerns. Also consider that local authorities “empowered” to carry out any sinister deed so ordered are people just like us and would have their own reservations. The challenge presented is simple: If I don’t take the vaccine and the epidemic is real I could die or wind up in a detention center. –or- If I do take the vaccine and it is in someway tainted, I could also die. Thus, the perfect conspiracy theory… As Mulder says: “Trust No 1” -and- “The truth is out there.” Jim Lorenz’s posting said to “Best find a way to ENFORCE the 10th today” and linked to a video entitled “Swine Flu, Martial law, and RFID Bracelets. Oh my!”. I initially wondered why he would bring this to the Decentralization for Freedom constitutional forum but after viewing it and some of the associated videos, it became clear that a huge insidious mistrust of big government is emerging from within the general population. If this type of governmental problem continues to grow, our state governments may indeed be the only recourse for citizens seeking trusted answers and direction. A new and interesting twist for the 10th amendment.

The TV Series “The X-Files” posed a somewhat similar situation where FBI agent Mulder, not knowing who to trust, seeks the truth on his own with the help of his associates. When there is social distrust, conspiracy theories can abound and even the best-intentioned plans can appear most evil. Our Constitution by definition demands our leaders to be of impeccable character and of the highest morality. If this is lost or betrayed, either real or imagined, mistrust ensues and government congruence with the people becomes fractured just as we are seeing today.

The video also indicated that Oklahoma had passed a law requiring all of its citizens to be vaccinated. I checked and could not find where this had been done. Oklahoma has been a strong supporter of the 10th Amendment so I find it a bit disturbing that an action resulting in certain death for some citizens (the vaccine itself will be responsible for a few deaths) would be undertaken by their legislators on a non-emergency basis.

Check here: http://www.ok.gov/health/index.html

Our system may take some time to right itself, but I have faith that it will because the next group to run for office will know that this is a problem and bring the solution to the people. Until then, those seeking truth and direction about the vaccines will have to use their own logic and follow their gut feelings but only after talking with real Doctors and state representatives about all these concerns. Also consider that local authorities “empowered” to carry out any sinister deed so ordered are people just like us and would have their own reservations. The challenge presented is simple: If I don’t take the vaccine and the epidemic is real I could die or wind up in a detention center. –or- If I do take the vaccine and it is in someway tainted, I could also die. Thus, the perfect conspiracy theory…

As Mulder says: “Trust No 1” -and- “The truth is out there.”

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