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	<title>Comments on: The Origin of Power is the People</title>
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		<title>By: Ruth Ann Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruth Ann Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The origin of Power is the People&quot;, yes, I believe that is the intent of the Founders.
&quot;The true design of civil government is to protect men in the enjoyment of Liberty.&quot; Samuel West, A.M. Mass. Election Day Sermons, 1776

What is this &quot;monster creature&quot; called &quot;The office of the President.&quot;  From my observations, the growth of this &quot;creature&quot;, has produced a &quot;Kingship&quot; within the United States.  Our forefathers were vehemently opposed to a King and &quot;Divine of Rights of those kings&quot;.

I have noticed that both political parties, be they conservative or liberal, favor &quot;to grow&quot; this office.  What are all these &quot;unelected bureaus&quot; with multitudes that &quot;eat out our substance daily&quot;.  Most &quot;mischief&quot; perpetrated on the American people come from one or a collection of these &quot;agencies&quot;.  The way this &quot;Office&quot; has &quot;developed&quot;, the vast powers which it possesses, has destroyed much in this Beloved America and the Liberty of the people is it&#039;s prime destruction.

I have made the suggestion to the Senators&#039; offices to stop writing the &quot;paycheck&quot; to these hoards that destroy our Liberty.  I believe it is the Senate Finance Committee that writes the disbursement for the &quot;Office of the President.&quot;  I think if this &quot;Office of the President&quot; was &quot;reined in&quot; and the President was to retain, maybe, a small cabinet and a Secretary,(as George Washington had and he established the Country!!!) the President would not be retaining such &quot;Imperial Powers&quot; that were never envisioned by the Founders nor the Constitution.

Congress can do something about this.  They hold the &quot;purse strings&quot;.

For God &amp; Country

Ruth Ann Wilson
Ruth Ann Wilson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The origin of Power is the People&#8221;, yes, I believe that is the intent of the Founders.<br />
&#8220;The true design of civil government is to protect men in the enjoyment of Liberty.&#8221; Samuel West, A.M. Mass. Election Day Sermons, 1776</p>
<p>What is this &#8220;monster creature&#8221; called &#8220;The office of the President.&#8221;  From my observations, the growth of this &#8220;creature&#8221;, has produced a &#8220;Kingship&#8221; within the United States.  Our forefathers were vehemently opposed to a King and &#8220;Divine of Rights of those kings&#8221;.</p>
<p>I have noticed that both political parties, be they conservative or liberal, favor &#8220;to grow&#8221; this office.  What are all these &#8220;unelected bureaus&#8221; with multitudes that &#8220;eat out our substance daily&#8221;.  Most &#8220;mischief&#8221; perpetrated on the American people come from one or a collection of these &#8220;agencies&#8221;.  The way this &#8220;Office&#8221; has &#8220;developed&#8221;, the vast powers which it possesses, has destroyed much in this Beloved America and the Liberty of the people is it&#8217;s prime destruction.</p>
<p>I have made the suggestion to the Senators&#8217; offices to stop writing the &#8220;paycheck&#8221; to these hoards that destroy our Liberty.  I believe it is the Senate Finance Committee that writes the disbursement for the &#8220;Office of the President.&#8221;  I think if this &#8220;Office of the President&#8221; was &#8220;reined in&#8221; and the President was to retain, maybe, a small cabinet and a Secretary,(as George Washington had and he established the Country!!!) the President would not be retaining such &#8220;Imperial Powers&#8221; that were never envisioned by the Founders nor the Constitution.</p>
<p>Congress can do something about this.  They hold the &#8220;purse strings&#8221;.</p>
<p>For God &amp; Country</p>
<p>Ruth Ann Wilson<br />
Ruth Ann Wilson</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interestingly enough, the exchange between Pilate and Christ during the Passion speaks of power coming from someplace other than the people:

&quot;10 Pilate therefore said to him, &quot;You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?&quot; 11 Jesus answered him, &quot;You would have no power over me unless it had been given you from above; therefore he who delivered me to you has the greater sin.&quot;&quot;
John 19:10-11

This is extremely relevant because the Founding Fathers were Christians, and attempted to build a state that was Christian, or at least in continuity with Christianity.  To dispense with the principle that Christ, the Principal authority over all mankind, enumerated in this passage was a deadly and erroneous dispensation.

(1) Power comes from above, i.e., from God.  Even more specifically, from Christ Who is King.  All temporal powers are subordinate to Him.

(2) Moreover, it is not just power, but law, that comes from God.  We may choose our representatives and those who hold authority, but they have a responsibility TO GOD, from Whom they have received power, to govern by His law.

There is a consistent and thorough disconnect between Christian Faith and the social thought derived from Protestant Thought/Philosophy.  The repulsion of Luther, Calvin and the other reformers concerning corruption in the Church was admirable.  The first Protestants failed, however, to make the distinction between (1) the Church that was the Foundation and the Gift of God, and (2) the church that was fallible man.  (There is a difference.)  Corruption became the excuse to dispense with the God-given Sacraments, clerical authority (especially papal), and the authoritatively-approved Tradition in the name of stamping out corruption.  Because of this, the Protestant Schism did more than separate Western Christians, it separated the paths of thought Western Christians would take theologically, philosophically and socially.  Not for the sake of corrupt churchmen should the reformers have remained fully Catholic, but for the sake of their own wholeness and integrity.

So now, it is up to us to put things right.  The reason that conservatives have not triumphed decisively over liberal thought, despite the fact that conservatives â€“ on the whole â€“ are more religiously orthodox, is that BOTH liberal and conservative thought are materialistic and severed from the life-giving Gospel.  What the &quot;liberals&quot; (Atheistic Materialists) make forbidden, as in the Soviet Union, the &quot;conservatives (Protestant Classical Liberals) make optional, as in the United States.  In both cases, what SHOULD BE fails to gain acceptance.  Whether this is so because what ought to be is outlawed, or simply made optional in the name of freedom, makes no difference in the end.

We&#039;re only going to be whole again when we stop confusing the works of God with the works of men, acknowledge what God has given us in His Church and return to that Church, i.e., the Roman Catholic Church.  We will never be whole again until we are wholly Catholic again.  I say this from personal experience.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, the exchange between Pilate and Christ during the Passion speaks of power coming from someplace other than the people:</p>
<p>&#8220;10 Pilate therefore said to him, &#8220;You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?&#8221; 11 Jesus answered him, &#8220;You would have no power over me unless it had been given you from above; therefore he who delivered me to you has the greater sin.&#8221;"<br />
John 19:10-11</p>
<p>This is extremely relevant because the Founding Fathers were Christians, and attempted to build a state that was Christian, or at least in continuity with Christianity.  To dispense with the principle that Christ, the Principal authority over all mankind, enumerated in this passage was a deadly and erroneous dispensation.</p>
<p>(1) Power comes from above, i.e., from God.  Even more specifically, from Christ Who is King.  All temporal powers are subordinate to Him.</p>
<p>(2) Moreover, it is not just power, but law, that comes from God.  We may choose our representatives and those who hold authority, but they have a responsibility TO GOD, from Whom they have received power, to govern by His law.</p>
<p>There is a consistent and thorough disconnect between Christian Faith and the social thought derived from Protestant Thought/Philosophy.  The repulsion of Luther, Calvin and the other reformers concerning corruption in the Church was admirable.  The first Protestants failed, however, to make the distinction between (1) the Church that was the Foundation and the Gift of God, and (2) the church that was fallible man.  (There is a difference.)  Corruption became the excuse to dispense with the God-given Sacraments, clerical authority (especially papal), and the authoritatively-approved Tradition in the name of stamping out corruption.  Because of this, the Protestant Schism did more than separate Western Christians, it separated the paths of thought Western Christians would take theologically, philosophically and socially.  Not for the sake of corrupt churchmen should the reformers have remained fully Catholic, but for the sake of their own wholeness and integrity.</p>
<p>So now, it is up to us to put things right.  The reason that conservatives have not triumphed decisively over liberal thought, despite the fact that conservatives â€“ on the whole â€“ are more religiously orthodox, is that BOTH liberal and conservative thought are materialistic and severed from the life-giving Gospel.  What the &#8220;liberals&#8221; (Atheistic Materialists) make forbidden, as in the Soviet Union, the &#8220;conservatives (Protestant Classical Liberals) make optional, as in the United States.  In both cases, what SHOULD BE fails to gain acceptance.  Whether this is so because what ought to be is outlawed, or simply made optional in the name of freedom, makes no difference in the end.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re only going to be whole again when we stop confusing the works of God with the works of men, acknowledge what God has given us in His Church and return to that Church, i.e., the Roman Catholic Church.  We will never be whole again until we are wholly Catholic again.  I say this from personal experience.</p>
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		<title>By: The Right Side of Life &#187; States&#8217; Rights Update: FL and AK on Sovereignty; Firearms and the ATF</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Right Side of Life &#187; States&#8217; Rights Update: FL and AK on Sovereignty; Firearms and the ATF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amen to that Michael...I always thought that fighting to stay alive was an instinct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that Michael&#8230;I always thought that fighting to stay alive was an instinct.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[larry, no doubt tyranny has got a strong foothold.  i certainly don&#039;t think it&#039;s too late, though.  what I know for sure is this - if we do nothing, we can guarantee it&#039;s too late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larry, no doubt tyranny has got a strong foothold.  i certainly don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s too late, though.  what I know for sure is this &#8211; if we do nothing, we can guarantee it&#8217;s too late.</p>
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		<title>By: larry</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/07/17/origin-of-power-people/comment-page-1/#comment-267351</link>
		<dc:creator>larry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primÃ¦val principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny,....&quot;

I&#039;m thinking we are waay beyond those &quot;first approaches of tyranny&quot; And because we have waited so long to wake up, it may be to late to take back our Country]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Self defence is a primary law of nature, which no subsequent law of society can abolish; this primÃ¦val principle, the immediate gift of the Creator, obliges every one to remonstrate against the strides of ambition, and a wanton lust of domination, and to resist the first approaches of tyranny,&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking we are waay beyond those &#8220;first approaches of tyranny&#8221; And because we have waited so long to wake up, it may be to late to take back our Country</p>
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		<title>By: David Beardsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Beardsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...government is instituted for the protection, safety and happiness of the people, and not for the profit, honour, or private interest of any man, family, or class of men...&quot; 

So, our founding fathers were against the redistribution of wealth? I guess they were not as &quot;progressive&quot; as Obama.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;government is instituted for the protection, safety and happiness of the people, and not for the profit, honour, or private interest of any man, family, or class of men&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>So, our founding fathers were against the redistribution of wealth? I guess they were not as &#8220;progressive&#8221; as Obama.</p>
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