Comments on: Free Health Care, Treaties and a Fictitious History

By: redgyrl

redgyrl — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:12:28 +0000

actually health care in an IHS facility rendered to Native Americans, is not entirely free, that's a false statement and but beleived my many. Nor is there free education, there are public school just like in any community. There are imposed taxes — the issue with the word "free" is a deception — the word was created merely to "sucker" us into believing that the govt really wants to help us, when indeed, they fed us horrible foot, rallied us to lands where agriculture was not viable, for us to fend for ourselves — in hindsight, it was genocide, unsuccessful, nonetheless — Native Americans lives for longer than the governemnt expected —even now, there is no such thing as free health care. The IHS does however seek monies from external resources to offset the costs, so my advice is that, if you're employed take advantage of the company's health insurance, it does pay off in the long run — and if you are not, take care of yourself to the best of your ability —

By: Sterling

Sterling — Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:45:46 +0000

Elk, excuse me for being 1/3 Cherokee. I guess you’re more Indian than me. WOW I’m impressed. NOT!!!!

I really don’t give a rats *&^ if you believe me or not.

I guess you have a big “Victim” t-shirt on as well.

The disgraceful service you get at the IHS is what socialized medicine is all about. Imagine a post office experience every time you want to see a doctor. That’s what this Marxist regime plans on doing.

By: Terry Morris

Terry Morris — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:29:08 +0000

Ha, ha.

The illegitimate “federal authority” has no influence on me. If the rest of you think so, that is your own problem. Hang yourselves by your own rope. I’ll not be involved.

By: larry

larry — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:04:57 +0000

Terry,
Of coarse not,
But you are arguing this with the assumption that Health care is a personal Issue. Allow me to play devils advocate here.

Health care as it is being argued,has less to do with the individual health and well being of you and your family, and has everything to do with the health and well being of the community. When statistics come out that 2/3rds of Americans are obese, the issue of health is no longer about the individual, it now becomes a social issue. Who can deny that the majority of Americans are at an unhealthy weight?, who can deny that the majority of Americans do not have Health insurance.. ( prob because they are healthy ).. who can deny that because the majority of Americans do not have coverage that this now becomes a national issue?

Now on to your punishment!
You will comply, if not you will be fined, up to one thousand dollars..But don’t worry we will make sure that paying your health insurance is efficient, easy and quick, we will attach it to your income tax, it will just be another withholding.. of coarse, if you fail to file your income tax with the proper with holdings, you will be audited by the IRS and we all know whats down that road!..
there will of coarse be those who resist, much like the the folks who claim income tax is unconstitutional, but they will be seen as radical extremists.. and will be dealt with appropriately.
Now Mr. Morris, please get back in line, hold out your right hand, for your bar code…

By: Terry Morris

Terry Morris — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 14:57:24 +0000

Let me ask everyone, including the Indianz, involved in this 'conversation' a fundamentally important question: Do you think that I, as an individual and a family man, am in any way obliged to provide for your healthcare at the expense of my own wife and children? By extension, do you think that I owe you healthcare assistance above my obligation to my local community? If so, what do you think ought to be done with people like me who absolutely disagree and will not comply with your demands?

By: Terry Morris

Terry Morris — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:22:09 +0000

Bonz wrote:

I work at an IHS facility and also a member of a federally recognized Tribe. [...]

Witness excused. Conflict of interests.

By: Terry Morris

Terry Morris — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:18:26 +0000

The health care that is provided through IHS is whatâ€™s disgraceful.

Of course it’s disgraceful, it’s social medicine. What else do you expect?

By: Elk Nation

Elk Nation — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:58:33 +0000

Sterling:

Everyone who wants to say “I’m native american” says they’re part cherokee. The jokes on you.

Keep your panties on.

The health care that is provided through IHS is what’s disgraceful.

Also, we own real estate and etc. We don’t all live in one big teepee or anything. Lol.

later – gater

By: larry

larry — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 21:25:01 +0000

Bonz,
This just goes to show that Government should not be in the health care business, if toes,feet and legs are missing, people are unhappy with the level of care they receive, and the general opinion is that the level of care is poor. It only serves to prove the obvious point.

By: Bonz

Bonz — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:10:34 +0000

Wow, so much to cover here. I work at an IHS facility and also a member of a federally recognized Tribe. My viewpoint comes from being a patient as well as a caregiver. It appears to me that Rob N. is upset with Indian people for recieving ‘free’ healthcare and that said healthcare is not warranted. Hey Rob come sit in the waiting area of any IHS facility for a week and perhaps your view will soften. We are after all talking about people with a huge array of health needs that at best are being met at the most basic level. I’ve seen people slowly dissappear, first a toe, then a foot, then a leg, soon a funeral. Anger over perceived injustices amount to misspent energy. It is sad that you can look up your facts but fail to mention that prisoners have more spent annually on their care than any Indian being ‘given free’ healthcare.