Comments on: Tenth Amendment Showdown

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 02:39:45 +0000

Although I have not had the time or interest to read all the posts on this site, after scanning the majority of them, it seem that one fundamental point has been overlooked.

The Federal Goverment…at the fundamental level…consists of Representatives and Senators and a President all elected by the people of the various states. I agree with all the arguments invoking the Tenth Amendment. But why do we have an Imperial Federal Government in the first place? It’s because the people in the various states have elected Representatives, Senators, and a President most of whom have promised such a government to those people.

In my own State of Colorado, I have consistently written to my two Senators pointing out that they continue to ignore the Constitution of the United States as they “work to support the agenda of President Obama”, as proudly reported by one of those Senators.

Until the majority of states stop sending such politicians to Washington, and instead send people dedicated to restoring a Constitutional Federal Government, the real disease will not be cured. It makes no sense to me to send such politicians as my two Senators to Washington, and then invoke the Tenth Amendment and refuse to obey their collective edicts. The people of this nation need to understand the Constitution and insist that the Federal Government uphold it through the actions of the politicians. Until that happens, all the talk about secession and invoking the Tenth Amendment seems like circular logic to me.

In the meantime, such sites at this one are providing an extremely valuable service to our nation. If only it were read by everyone who has a personal computer.

By: Michael Boldin

Michael Boldin — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:39:28 +0000

Roy, a war and mass death is the last thing that anyone should want. I sure hope you don’t. I don’t, and this site has no interest in calling for such action or giving even veiled threats of it.

By: Roy from Texas

Roy from Texas — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:17:46 +0000

All the legal thoughts, high sounding arguments and posturing for other men will come to a halt when the ordinary, unwashed, unsophisticated American says, “Aw Crap, this ain’t right.” At that time there will be a civil war and win, lose or draw, those Americans will make sure everyone knows they’ve been in a fight. This will happen unless the social engineers realize what they’re stepping in and back off.

By: JMB

JMB — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 12:20:21 +0000

The fact that this federal government is setting aside our United States Constitution, for any damn purpose it can fathom.
Is what is illegal.
This federal government itself, is what has become, the national emergency.

By: Allan A. Campbell

Allan A. Campbell — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 05:19:39 +0000

Re; my 09:46 post its important to clarify its one idea which could empower the State. It isn’t an absolute or the only way. The thought behind it was to take everything outside of powers delegated away from Federal govt. Such endeavor would have to be nondestabilizing. Can’t give Federal govt. cause and necessity justification to counter a mass exodus out. Thus one must consider those on welfare,SSN,receiving grants,farm subsidies,medicare,veterans pay/benefits,i.e.,all what Federal govt. does Counties and States can replicate. The premise being its a gradual process to undo Federal expanionism. Best form of governance is that which is closest to oneself. Effect would be to subject Federal govt. to more reasonable limitations and constraints. Over time the State adopted programs can be reduced eventually to minimal intrusion and be what best serves the people collectively. Federal govt. now can’t justify having all personal income tax money routed to U.S. treasury. Thus States and ultimately the Counties should be recipients of at least 80% of all money presently routed through Federal govt. Again, this is a what could be scenario. If States won’t create the remedy,then its incumbent upon all American born to learn the process to exit oneself out from under the 14th Ammendment to be free and clear to effect change outside. Likewise a remedy needs to be created for naturalized citizens as they’d be aliens without rights were they to seperate. It is beyond the scope herein to consider all variables and complexities. Purpose was to get others to consider how people can reserve rights under the 10th Ammendment to do whats never been done. Ask oneself, if only States can reserve rights under the 10th Ammendment,why are people even mentioned?

By: Allan A. Campbell

Allan A. Campbell — Mon, 01 Jun 2009 17:32:42 +0000

Now thats the way to think re: change. Learning everything necessary to get out of 14th Ammendment is the true path to American born freedom and liberty. Founding Fathers never existed under it. They would not be recognized today as being a U.S. citizen. Exiting the 14th Ammendment is where to access and command original full power of People and update 10th Ammendment by reserving new rights and powers not known. Like voting an all inclusive process for aliens/naturalized to join in crossing the bridge to the 10th Ammendment. It repopulates the Republic reducing Federal power by no one except illegal aliens living within it. Let them be the U.S. citizen accepting the burden of all debts,obligations, and Federal income tax. May dissuaude them from entering. Amen, 14th Ammendment stickage where sun don’t shine.

By: JMB

JMB — Sun, 31 May 2009 22:04:45 +0000

Now thatâ€™s the kind of letter, only a true patriot of our republican form of government would dare sign.

You can put that national parliament,and that opinion of the 14th, were the sun never shines. Lol

By: Richard Brodie

Richard Brodie — Sun, 31 May 2009 20:46:14 +0000

Dear Federal government, you can take your 14th Ammendment, at least insofar as it pertains to “depriving” ME of any of your supposed “benefits” and, with all due respect, shove it. I don’t have to accept your “protection” if I don’t want it, anymore than I would have to agree to be covered by a life insurance policy if I should choose not to be. I prefer to be regarded as one of those people within the State of ___________ that you can regard as wearing the mantle of its sovereingty, thank you very much, and good bye.

By: Allan A. Campbell

Allan A. Campbell — Sun, 31 May 2009 16:46:29 +0000

Attn: Richard Brodie. What could empower State’s with right to create remedy for “all” people to be declared “part” of the State is : 1.] State creating identical Federal programs all federal citizens presently connected to,then informing all citizens about documentation process out of 14th Ammendment citizen recognition. Whatever class of citizen the Founding Fathers were thats the citizenship State’s create a process for all to obtain. It could be a graduating process. Aliens in good standing can become the highest form of citizenship after set qualification period. It must be an all inclusive process to counter Federal govt. claim of protecting anyone not included. Thus will of the people is evidenced by signature consent to depopulate the federal democracy sourced in foreign nation District of Columbia. Welcome to the Republic. Don’t see any state truly interested in People’s rights or creating such remedy. 2.] People themselves have to create the 10th Ammendment process to reserve rights under the 10th Ammendment[ an uncharted territory]. Whats known is that its inaccessable to any under the 14th Ammendment. Since American born become 14th Ammendment by application documents like birth certificate,SSN,etc.,ad nauseum, only remedy left is to undo everything one did to get into the 14th Ammendment. Sad part is State’s only create/circulate 14th Ammendment federal citizen recognition documents. Again State’s aren’t being forthright in good faith full disclosure. Too many, cheer the State/Federal rights battle. Whatever the outcome, People’s rights are being relegated to being a mere footnote in history.

By: Terry Morris

Terry Morris — Sun, 31 May 2009 05:56:08 +0000

It’s true that the fourteenth amendment created a U.S. citizenship. It’s also true that the central government would look on secession by any State/States as an act of war, and would respond accordingly. Secession does mean war, let’s not kid ourselves.