Comments on: Secession Is in Our Future?

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By: Bill Campbell

Bill Campbell — Mon, 11 Jan 2010 03:22:48 +0000

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By: Monorprise

Monorprise — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:59:08 +0000

This is mostly true, thou it doesn't really matter as Canada a separate nation shares the same grid as most of the Northern United States. I think any State could do it, all of them are larger than many of the independent nations of the world, and all of them already have pretty much all of the essential functions of government preexisting. From law enforcement to military(national guard), every State in the United States is equip to be its own nation if it saw that as necessary to restore and preserve its people's liberty.

Our Federation was founded to maintain that that capability just in case it were eventually needed, all the real problems would actually come as a result of political/military conflict between the new nation and the old Federation.

By: Monorprise

Monorprise — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:51:13 +0000

Taxes, spending, federal deficit, are not the issue, its what the same Federal government does with that money and power unconstitutional that is the issue.
That issue of usurping our rights and overthrowing the consented Constitution although is a matter of the most grave and fundamental important of lawlessness which does constitute grounds for the revolutionary actions of secession if the unconstitutional acts are being imposed by a hostile and now lawless majority.

I can think of no more ideal, no more legitimate grounds for the separation of one people from anther than to protect the rights of one from the other who refuses to follow the law(Constitution).

By: DaleCaruso

DaleCaruso — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:49:02 +0000

I have tried to be as pragmatic about all this as possible. For 20 years I was a journalist – and I am proud to say, a political atheist.
The American historian, Will Durant once observed;
"A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within."
I think one of the major reasons that "history tends to repeat" – is that we have yet to recognize the patterns. Instead we focus on the particular event and the characters on the stage at that moment.
To be very blunt, I think what we are witnessing is the collapse of the United States – of our society… of this “empire” – this nation/state – but this is not a unique event; it has happened before – to ancient societies/nations/empires from Egypt – to Greece – to Rome – and the list goes on and on and indeed it is a long and notable one. It is part of the cycle of existence – however, the outcome of the collapse is and can be varied – especially when it is based on the awareness of the people involved … not the governments.
So I would agree with Paul Starobin's remark;
"Still, the precedent for any breakup of today’s America is not necessarily the one set by the musket-bearing colonists’ demanded departure from the British crown in the late 18th century or by the crisis-ridden dissolution of the U.S.S.R. at the end of the 20th century. Every empire, every too-big thing, fragments or shrinks according to its own unique character and to the age of history to which it belongs."
All around us – even to the extent of life itself – is a condition of illusion and perception (and I don’t mean that in a negative way) – in our particular situation, it is the illusion or perception that Central or Federal government is indispensable – to demonstrate that, it attempts to provide more and more for its people – then to prolong its usefulness, it begins to MANDATE its usefulness – if not held in check, as is our case – it then begins to develop an air of infallibility. (and boy oh boy have we seen this lately – Was up in Washington this past week – It has come to be a place that I DESPISE visiting – For nearly 35 years I have dealt with these folks – both Dems and Republicans – and many from both camps I consider friends (even "Charlie" Rangel -love him dearly – DON'T TRUST HIM – but one knows that from the onset) They have always been out of touch (bless their hearts) but NOW, the atmosphere of CONCEIT AND ARROGANCE is so thick it makes one sick.)

By: MichaelBoldin

MichaelBoldin — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 17:12:33 +0000

Dale, I read that article as well – definitely some interesting things to consider. The country is in the crapper, to say the least, and I don't think it's odd that people are talking about such issues.

By: DaleCaruso

DaleCaruso — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:13:50 +0000

This is a very interesting op-ed that appeared in the Wall Street Journal –
"Divided We Stand
What would California look like broken in three? Or a Republic of New England? With the federal government reaching for ever more power, redrawing the map is enticing, says Paul Starobin"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204…

Would love to see what kind of discussion this might generate

By: Kaelieh

Kaelieh — Sun, 17 May 2009 06:12:54 +0000

“For me, our secession and new declaration of independence would have to exclude us from the UN and its authorities.”

For me that’s a given.

NATO, UN, WHO, IMF, WTO, etc. All of ‘em. They’ve gotta go.

By: JMH

JMH — Sun, 17 May 2009 00:02:08 +0000

I do believe secession is our only way out of the current course being dictated. As pointed out in previous comments, it is an issue where both parties have contributed. The love of and devotion to money corrupts our entire democratic system. Simply put, it is a greed thing that is corrupting DC.

I do have concerns of taking the same path as done in the Czech and Slovak Republics. The bigger threat to our freedoms and liberties today comes from our unconstitutional relationship with the UN. The threat of loosing our 2nd amendment rights is on the table now in the UN under the disguise of Childrenâ€™s Rights. For me, our secession and new declaration of independence would have to exclude us from the UN and its authorities.

By: KWM

KWM — Sat, 16 May 2009 02:32:45 +0000

God willing there is a peaceful resolution to be found. While I encourage everyone to do their best to ensure a peaceful resolution is reached, I urge everyone to be aware that a peaceful resolution is not as likely as we might desire to believe. I encourage everyone to prepare as if they know it will end in violence and bloodshed so that they may make preparations for the safety of their families. In the end, we can only go at this one way: Peacefully if possible, by force if necessary.