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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/03/25/asserting-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-257990</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Monorprise - some great perspective on local vs distant tyranny.  Thanks for taking the time to post this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monorprise &#8211; some great perspective on local vs distant tyranny.  Thanks for taking the time to post this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Monorprise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monorprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 07:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference between the local tyranny in the state or local government and that of the distant tyranny in Washington DC is simply a matter of your ability to escape and deal with their tyranny.

In short you will find the local tyranny far more manageable for you than that of the distant tyrant which deny you any place to run to escape them.

Casting my lot with the state even one I don&#039;t like in federation with other states among which I can freely move and trade is a vastly more secure able stance in the cause of liberty.

The argument for substituting one tyranny a 1000 miles away for 1000 tyrants 1 mile a way is only valid when we are speaking of leaving a union, which is not the case.  But even if it were the deal was good enough for our founding fathers when they did it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between the local tyranny in the state or local government and that of the distant tyranny in Washington DC is simply a matter of your ability to escape and deal with their tyranny.</p>
<p>In short you will find the local tyranny far more manageable for you than that of the distant tyrant which deny you any place to run to escape them.</p>
<p>Casting my lot with the state even one I don&#8217;t like in federation with other states among which I can freely move and trade is a vastly more secure able stance in the cause of liberty.</p>
<p>The argument for substituting one tyranny a 1000 miles away for 1000 tyrants 1 mile a way is only valid when we are speaking of leaving a union, which is not the case.  But even if it were the deal was good enough for our founding fathers when they did it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kitten James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kitten James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 00:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ashamed of Arkansas, I can&#039;t believe they failed this bill!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ashamed of Arkansas, I can&#8217;t believe they failed this bill!!</p>
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		<title>By: DM Zuniga</title>
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		<dc:creator>DM Zuniga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

Exactly.  That&#039;s what I&#039;ve done.  I&#039;m a law-abiding Nontaxpayer so I already got &quot;results&quot; for my own engineering practice and for my own family.  The pressure&#039;s off, and I can watch the crooks in D.C. rape you guys for 1/3 of all you make...and I don&#039;t have to worry.  Those are my short-term results and I love it.

But longer-term, I know that playing defense isn&#039;t enough; I also know that the State legislatures are just coming to grips with the imminent (5-10 years) loss of our Rule of Law.  It really, seriously will be beyond recovery in just a few more years; we must start taking action now, to see results in 10-15 years or more.

That&#039;s what the AmericaAgain! project is: a neighborhood-level plan of ACTION, just like a Neighborhood Watch program, coupled with a Homeowners&#039; Association, but aimed at civil and criminal indictments for each member of Congress.

I know it sounds lofty, but if you read the website, I hope you&#039;ll agree that it&#039;s exactly what Jefferson and Madison proposed in 1798, but never followed through.

Without these State Resolutions, we&#039;re dead in the water, though.  Local vigilante groups can&#039;t enforce the US Constitution (lawfully); only State Legislatures can.  So the CHSAs (local groups) are intended to apply the necessary pressure on legislatures in the States, so we can go after criminals in Congress, at home, one by one.

Hey, it&#039;s better than any other plan I&#039;ve seen proposed, and it follows Jefferson and Madison, to a tee.

www.america-again.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Exactly.  That&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve done.  I&#8217;m a law-abiding Nontaxpayer so I already got &#8220;results&#8221; for my own engineering practice and for my own family.  The pressure&#8217;s off, and I can watch the crooks in D.C. rape you guys for 1/3 of all you make&#8230;and I don&#8217;t have to worry.  Those are my short-term results and I love it.</p>
<p>But longer-term, I know that playing defense isn&#8217;t enough; I also know that the State legislatures are just coming to grips with the imminent (5-10 years) loss of our Rule of Law.  It really, seriously will be beyond recovery in just a few more years; we must start taking action now, to see results in 10-15 years or more.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the AmericaAgain! project is: a neighborhood-level plan of ACTION, just like a Neighborhood Watch program, coupled with a Homeowners&#8217; Association, but aimed at civil and criminal indictments for each member of Congress.</p>
<p>I know it sounds lofty, but if you read the website, I hope you&#8217;ll agree that it&#8217;s exactly what Jefferson and Madison proposed in 1798, but never followed through.</p>
<p>Without these State Resolutions, we&#8217;re dead in the water, though.  Local vigilante groups can&#8217;t enforce the US Constitution (lawfully); only State Legislatures can.  So the CHSAs (local groups) are intended to apply the necessary pressure on legislatures in the States, so we can go after criminals in Congress, at home, one by one.</p>
<p>Hey, it&#8217;s better than any other plan I&#8217;ve seen proposed, and it follows Jefferson and Madison, to a tee.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.america-again.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.america-again.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great points, DM, thanks for clarifying!  I&#039;d really prefer now myself, but think it&#039;s unrealistic.  So, maybe we need to consider both angles - what can be done to get some kind of short term results while keeping our &quot;eye on the prize&quot; and understanding that over a century of federal usurpations are going to take time to turn around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great points, DM, thanks for clarifying!  I&#8217;d really prefer now myself, but think it&#8217;s unrealistic.  So, maybe we need to consider both angles &#8211; what can be done to get some kind of short term results while keeping our &#8220;eye on the prize&#8221; and understanding that over a century of federal usurpations are going to take time to turn around.</p>
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		<title>By: DM Zuniga</title>
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		<dc:creator>DM Zuniga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 12:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

I am suggesting immediate action, but certainly not expecting &quot;immediate results&quot;.  We have never -- not in 220 years -- enforced the US Constitution against the federal creature we created and circumscribed in that Constitution.

If we take immediate, tactically wise action, we may obtain results over time.  Likely decades, perhaps a generation.

David]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>I am suggesting immediate action, but certainly not expecting &#8220;immediate results&#8221;.  We have never &#8212; not in 220 years &#8212; enforced the US Constitution against the federal creature we created and circumscribed in that Constitution.</p>
<p>If we take immediate, tactically wise action, we may obtain results over time.  Likely decades, perhaps a generation.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: State&#8217;s Rights &#8211; The States Sovereignty Movement Continues to Grow. &#124; GoodOldRebel.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>State&#8217;s Rights &#8211; The States Sovereignty Movement Continues to Grow. &#124; GoodOldRebel.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all ZM, while all your input here is really appreciated, please try to tone it down just a notch.  Our goal is to facilitate some civil conversation, not just have people blasting out long essays which act as little more than a promotional tool for other websites.  If this is your intention, you might want to think about writing up a formal article and emailing it to me here for publication consideration. 

Moving forward...

Sovereignty is rightfully ours.  And the federal government is clearly authorized to do only those things that are authorized to it by the Constitution - but that&#039;s not what happens in practice today.  Moving forward to those principles is what needs to happen to secure liberty for our future.

As far as legislative actions, I would say that a one-size-fits-all solution for just about any problem is not the right method.  While your proposals clearly have merit, to claim that&#039;s the proper way forward or the only way forward is doing the same thing that we&#039;re fighting against now.  

In some states, there may be enough support to demand an enforcement hook.  In other states, this kind of &quot;immediate results&quot; impatience is just the kind of thing that will drive those marginal supporters to the other side. 

No doubt that you&#039;re right about the committees, though - we&#039;ve seen a few resolutions die there already.  It&#039;s going to take a lot of persistence to get these things through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all ZM, while all your input here is really appreciated, please try to tone it down just a notch.  Our goal is to facilitate some civil conversation, not just have people blasting out long essays which act as little more than a promotional tool for other websites.  If this is your intention, you might want to think about writing up a formal article and emailing it to me here for publication consideration. </p>
<p>Moving forward&#8230;</p>
<p>Sovereignty is rightfully ours.  And the federal government is clearly authorized to do only those things that are authorized to it by the Constitution &#8211; but that&#8217;s not what happens in practice today.  Moving forward to those principles is what needs to happen to secure liberty for our future.</p>
<p>As far as legislative actions, I would say that a one-size-fits-all solution for just about any problem is not the right method.  While your proposals clearly have merit, to claim that&#8217;s the proper way forward or the only way forward is doing the same thing that we&#8217;re fighting against now.  </p>
<p>In some states, there may be enough support to demand an enforcement hook.  In other states, this kind of &#8220;immediate results&#8221; impatience is just the kind of thing that will drive those marginal supporters to the other side. </p>
<p>No doubt that you&#8217;re right about the committees, though &#8211; we&#8217;ve seen a few resolutions die there already.  It&#8217;s going to take a lot of persistence to get these things through.</p>
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		<title>By: DM Zuniga</title>
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		<dc:creator>DM Zuniga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Michael,

&lt;em&gt;Distinguo.&lt;/em&gt;  We don&#039;t &quot;demand&quot; what we already have.  

We&#039;re sovereign States; the legislatures are mostly just reiterating our sovereignty (by repeating Jefferson&#039;s KY Resolution), not demanding sovereignty.

Anyone readign this who lives in a State whose legislature is reasserting your sovereignty in a Resolution now drafted and in process or committee, please contact the committee chairman overseeing the House or Senate process -- do NOT let these committee chairs allow these Resolutions to die in committee!

You need to understand that a committee chair in a State Legislature is for all practical purposes, the KING of your State in all matters of reform legislation!  That chairperson can let the best bills and resolutions DIE in committee.  

To stop this abuse of liberal power:

1) Go to your State Legislature&#039;s website and find your Sovereignty Resolution (if there is one in process);

2) Track the Resolution; find out if it&#039;s already in committee and if so, see who the chairman is of that committee;

3) Please add our suggested amendment language (see below for TX example) as an &quot;enforcement hook&quot; in the Resolution, so that the constituents of any US congressional district, or of your State, can pursue civil and criminal enforcement under STATE STATUTES against any member of Congress who refuses to cease and desist violating the Constitution, as these Resolutions demand that Congress do.

4) Get your local tea party activists to flood that chairman&#039;s office with letters and emails, DEMANDING that the Resolution be heard in committee, be discussed (and reconciled with any similar resolution in the committee), and be amended with that &quot;enforcement hook&quot; language.

&lt;blockquote&gt;RESOLVED, That although this act does not provide specific remedies for unlawful activities described herein by a Texas resident who is a member of the United States Congress, the State of Texas reserves the right to pursue action, civil or criminal, on behalf of the constituents of said member of Congress, available under the laws of this state; and be it further&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is really not much to ask, folks.  If you&#039;re willing to take these small duties of self-government, you might amaze yourself, and your grandchildren one day.

&quot;The only thing required for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing.&quot;

www.america-again.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p><em>Distinguo.</em>  We don&#8217;t &#8220;demand&#8221; what we already have.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re sovereign States; the legislatures are mostly just reiterating our sovereignty (by repeating Jefferson&#8217;s KY Resolution), not demanding sovereignty.</p>
<p>Anyone readign this who lives in a State whose legislature is reasserting your sovereignty in a Resolution now drafted and in process or committee, please contact the committee chairman overseeing the House or Senate process &#8212; do NOT let these committee chairs allow these Resolutions to die in committee!</p>
<p>You need to understand that a committee chair in a State Legislature is for all practical purposes, the KING of your State in all matters of reform legislation!  That chairperson can let the best bills and resolutions DIE in committee.  </p>
<p>To stop this abuse of liberal power:</p>
<p>1) Go to your State Legislature&#8217;s website and find your Sovereignty Resolution (if there is one in process);</p>
<p>2) Track the Resolution; find out if it&#8217;s already in committee and if so, see who the chairman is of that committee;</p>
<p>3) Please add our suggested amendment language (see below for TX example) as an &#8220;enforcement hook&#8221; in the Resolution, so that the constituents of any US congressional district, or of your State, can pursue civil and criminal enforcement under STATE STATUTES against any member of Congress who refuses to cease and desist violating the Constitution, as these Resolutions demand that Congress do.</p>
<p>4) Get your local tea party activists to flood that chairman&#8217;s office with letters and emails, DEMANDING that the Resolution be heard in committee, be discussed (and reconciled with any similar resolution in the committee), and be amended with that &#8220;enforcement hook&#8221; language.</p>
<blockquote><p>RESOLVED, That although this act does not provide specific remedies for unlawful activities described herein by a Texas resident who is a member of the United States Congress, the State of Texas reserves the right to pursue action, civil or criminal, on behalf of the constituents of said member of Congress, available under the laws of this state; and be it further</p></blockquote>
<p>This is really not much to ask, folks.  If you&#8217;re willing to take these small duties of self-government, you might amaze yourself, and your grandchildren one day.</p>
<p>&#8220;The only thing required for the triumph of evil, is that good men do nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.america-again.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.america-again.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No doubt about it, ZM.  The declaration of independence makes it quite clear.    But the states are not sovereign in practice, obviously.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s my hope that more and more people stand up and demand sovereignty in their area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt about it, ZM.  The declaration of independence makes it quite clear.    But the states are not sovereign in practice, obviously.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s my hope that more and more people stand up and demand sovereignty in their area.</p>
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