Comments on: A Few Thoughts On Liberty And Sovereignty http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/ Concordia res Parvae Crescunt Tue, 22 May 2012 01:46:11 +0000 hourly 1 By: Identity Crisis: So who exactly are the Libertarians? | Staten Island Libertarian Party http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-490016 Identity Crisis: So who exactly are the Libertarians? | Staten Island Libertarian Party Tue, 08 Mar 2011 16:39:47 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=214#comment-490016 [...] “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by th... [...] [...] “Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by th… [...]

]]> By: Brad Marston http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-250588 Brad Marston Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:51:18 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=214#comment-250588 An excellent post. Oklahoma passed HJR1003 yesterday and there is a major rally planned for Concord NH on March 4th regarding passage of NH HCR 6. An excellent post. Oklahoma passed HJR1003 yesterday and there is a major rally planned for Concord NH on March 4th regarding passage of NH HCR 6.

]]> By: Michael Boldin http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-249418 Michael Boldin Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:48:33 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=214#comment-249418 While it's possible that the federal government would "roll in the tanks" to bring a state in line (because they've done it in the past), I don't know if that's a reason to NOT resist federal overreach and federal tyranny in this manner. But, it's obviously going to be more successful if more and more people - and more and more states get on board. I see these recent state sovereignty resolutions (all non-binding, I believe) to be an important warning shot to the federal government. A first step... While it’s possible that the federal government would “roll in the tanks” to bring a state in line (because they’ve done it in the past), I don’t know if that’s a reason to NOT resist federal overreach and federal tyranny in this manner. But, it’s obviously going to be more successful if more and more people – and more and more states get on board.

I see these recent state sovereignty resolutions (all non-binding, I believe) to be an important warning shot to the federal government. A first step…

]]> By: Monorprise http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-249063 Monorprise Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:01:40 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=214#comment-249063 I do not believe the States can back there word without the support of other States, to do so would be suicide. Obama will simply order in federal troop to in force federal will. We need a large collation of States agreeing to do this and hang together in doing it or they will all hang separately. I do not believe the States can back there word without the support of other States, to do so would be suicide. Obama will simply order in federal troop to in force federal will.

We need a large collation of States agreeing to do this and hang together in doing it or they will all hang separately.

]]> By: Allan Hampton http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2009/02/16/a-few-thoughts-on-liberty-and-sovereignty/comment-page-1/#comment-248836 Allan Hampton Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:00:47 +0000 http://www.tenthamendmentcenter.com/?p=214#comment-248836 Neal, Very good post, thanks. I wish you would reconsider “those who have been elected to safeguard our freedom and liberty”, I think that is incorrect. The way I read the Constitution is, I am saying constitutionally, Elected Officials are elected by the People to do one thing, honor the Constitution’s Oath of Office. If the People elect Officials for any other reason or to do anything else then the People give the elected consent to disregard the Oath of Office and presto we have a Democracy; the Republic with the Constitution to Rule Government just disappeared. The way I read it in 1776 the citizens of the Colonies were free. Then in 1787 the Constitution was written and ratified to create a central government to protect the physical land of the U.S. of A., settle squabbles between the States, and domestically very little else. In freedom the People are obligated to protect themselves (2nd Amendment), family, property, neighbor, and Community (Militia) from physical attack. Also, the people are obligated to serve on citizen juries to protect each other from government infringing (unconstitutional) or unjustly applied legislation; Local, State or Federal legislation. The only power of force (constitutionally) the people have to use against government Officials is the ballot box; only the Citizenry can hire (elect) Lawmakers and the Citizenry can fire incumbents simply by not reelecting them. Since 1787 the Citizenry has elected every, with very exceptions, perhaps, Congressman and done so every two years; reference Article I, Section 2. Allan Neal,

Very good post, thanks.

I wish you would reconsider “those who have been elected to safeguard our freedom and liberty”, I think that is incorrect.

The way I read the Constitution is, I am saying constitutionally, Elected Officials are elected by the People to do one thing, honor the Constitution’s Oath of Office. If the People elect Officials for any other reason or to do anything else then the People give the elected consent to disregard the Oath of Office and presto we have a Democracy; the Republic with the Constitution to Rule Government just disappeared.

The way I read it in 1776 the citizens of the Colonies were free. Then in 1787 the Constitution was written and ratified to create a central government to protect the physical land of the U.S. of A., settle squabbles between the States, and domestically very little else. In freedom the People are obligated to protect themselves (2nd Amendment), family, property, neighbor, and Community (Militia) from physical attack. Also, the people are obligated to serve on citizen juries to protect each other from government infringing (unconstitutional) or unjustly applied legislation; Local, State or Federal legislation.

The only power of force (constitutionally) the people have to use against government Officials is the ballot box; only the Citizenry can hire (elect) Lawmakers and the Citizenry can fire incumbents simply by not reelecting them. Since 1787 the Citizenry has elected every, with very exceptions, perhaps, Congressman and done so every two years; reference Article I, Section 2.

Allan

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