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	<title>Comments on: The Mother of all Bailouts and the 10th Amendment</title>
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		<title>By: Mike-N-TN</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-310563</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike-N-TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, true.... all so very true. 
Many of us Americans are assembling and protesting.  We are calling our representatives and speaking out in defense of the constitution.  Apparently this is doing no good.  So... what next?  A call to arms? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, true&#8230;. all so very true.<br />
Many of us Americans are assembling and protesting.  We are calling our representatives and speaking out in defense of the constitution.  Apparently this is doing no good.  So&#8230; what next?  A call to arms?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-254897</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hu - an excellent point.  The people created the federal government as their agent for certain enumerated powers only.  In order to carry out those powers - which are specifically listed in the constitution - the people authorized the government to use what we would call implied powers...but only if they were absolutely essential for carrying out the expressly delegated power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hu &#8211; an excellent point.  The people created the federal government as their agent for certain enumerated powers only.  In order to carry out those powers &#8211; which are specifically listed in the constitution &#8211; the people authorized the government to use what we would call implied powers&#8230;but only if they were absolutely essential for carrying out the expressly delegated power.</p>
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		<title>By: Hu</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-254878</link>
		<dc:creator>Hu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 06:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The general welfare clause can and is only applied to the powers delegated by the constitution to the Government. If the powers are not delegated, than that part of general welfare can not be applied. Bailout, subsidizes, welfare, medicare and medcaid etc are not part of the delegated powers for the Federal Government, but they could be part of the powers retained by the states and certainly the people. If  wish to subsidize a poor smuck of a farmer or banker, that is my right and the responsibility of my actions falls on me and no one else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The general welfare clause can and is only applied to the powers delegated by the constitution to the Government. If the powers are not delegated, than that part of general welfare can not be applied. Bailout, subsidizes, welfare, medicare and medcaid etc are not part of the delegated powers for the Federal Government, but they could be part of the powers retained by the states and certainly the people. If  wish to subsidize a poor smuck of a farmer or banker, that is my right and the responsibility of my actions falls on me and no one else.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Boldin</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-252510</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Boldin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RatFink - good comment, and this is a very common question.

Article 1, section 8 absolutely starts out how you&#039;ve written here, but it&#039;s followed by the 18 things that congress is authorized to do to carry out those duties you&#039;ve listed here.

The other option is to define it like you have.  But then, &quot;general welfare&quot; will always be defined by whomever has more power.

For example, one decade could see bailouts as for the general welfare, another could require participation in a government run health care program, another could see religious zealots claiming that mandatory church attendance is best for the general welfare, or just about anything.

The bottom line question is pretty simple - who defines what&#039;s general welfare, and  what happens if those people define it differently than you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RatFink &#8211; good comment, and this is a very common question.</p>
<p>Article 1, section 8 absolutely starts out how you&#8217;ve written here, but it&#8217;s followed by the 18 things that congress is authorized to do to carry out those duties you&#8217;ve listed here.</p>
<p>The other option is to define it like you have.  But then, &#8220;general welfare&#8221; will always be defined by whomever has more power.</p>
<p>For example, one decade could see bailouts as for the general welfare, another could require participation in a government run health care program, another could see religious zealots claiming that mandatory church attendance is best for the general welfare, or just about anything.</p>
<p>The bottom line question is pretty simple &#8211; who defines what&#8217;s general welfare, and  what happens if those people define it differently than you?</p>
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		<title>By: RatFink</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-251221</link>
		<dc:creator>RatFink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:
&quot;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and &lt;strong&gt;general Welfare&lt;/strong&gt; of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;&quot;

Not having a 1929 like meltdown of the banks, would fall under the umbrella of the General welfare of the country regardless of how badly handled and poorly executed it was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:<br />
&#8220;The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and <strong>general Welfare</strong> of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;&#8221;</p>
<p>Not having a 1929 like meltdown of the banks, would fall under the umbrella of the General welfare of the country regardless of how badly handled and poorly executed it was.</p>
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		<title>By: Adjutor</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-223223</link>
		<dc:creator>Adjutor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;since that what it is. As much as I disagree with the bailout, it is inane to act like this is something other than a purchase from private organizations, as is the case with (for example) arms manufacturers. Now, what the government happens to be purchasing is essentially worthless, if not worse, so itâ€™s something of a bad trade, in my opinion, but I canâ€™t see how that makes it unconstitutional.&quot;

There is no power granted by the Constitution that allows the Federal government to tax people for the purposes of propping up private industries. There is a difference between purchasing equipment for the purposes of something like maintaining a Navy (which is a Constitutional role of the government) and purchasing bad debt for the sake of meddling in the economy (not a Constitutional role). That is the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;since that what it is. As much as I disagree with the bailout, it is inane to act like this is something other than a purchase from private organizations, as is the case with (for example) arms manufacturers. Now, what the government happens to be purchasing is essentially worthless, if not worse, so itâ€™s something of a bad trade, in my opinion, but I canâ€™t see how that makes it unconstitutional.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no power granted by the Constitution that allows the Federal government to tax people for the purposes of propping up private industries. There is a difference between purchasing equipment for the purposes of something like maintaining a Navy (which is a Constitutional role of the government) and purchasing bad debt for the sake of meddling in the economy (not a Constitutional role). That is the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So tell me: where in the United States Constitution is the Imperial Federal Government delegated power to buy up toxic debt from private banks?&quot;

translates to:

&quot;So tell me: where in the United States Constitution is the Imperial Federal Government delegated power to make purchases from private organizations?&quot;

since that what it is.  As much as I disagree with the bailout, it is inane to act like this is something other than a purchase from private organizations, as is the case with (for example) arms manufacturers.  Now, what the government happens to be purchasing is essentially worthless, if not worse, so it&#039;s something of a bad trade, in my opinion, but I can&#039;t see how that makes it unconstitutional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So tell me: where in the United States Constitution is the Imperial Federal Government delegated power to buy up toxic debt from private banks?&#8221;</p>
<p>translates to:</p>
<p>&#8220;So tell me: where in the United States Constitution is the Imperial Federal Government delegated power to make purchases from private organizations?&#8221;</p>
<p>since that what it is.  As much as I disagree with the bailout, it is inane to act like this is something other than a purchase from private organizations, as is the case with (for example) arms manufacturers.  Now, what the government happens to be purchasing is essentially worthless, if not worse, so it&#8217;s something of a bad trade, in my opinion, but I can&#8217;t see how that makes it unconstitutional.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-197533</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is it in the Constitution that the federal government has to provide health care for everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is it in the Constitution that the federal government has to provide health care for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: El Ponderado</title>
		<link>http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2008/10/03/the-mother-of-all-bailouts-and-the-10th-amendment/comment-page-1/#comment-176232</link>
		<dc:creator>El Ponderado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Savage. Why are so few of us speaking out about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Savage. Why are so few of us speaking out about this?</p>
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